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I'm not that familiar with Harlem, Washington Heights, and Inwood, but according to Google Maps these streets appear to be 2-way, which I've added: West 207, Dyckman, West 181, West 165, West 155, West 145, 135 Streets. Also, I've added Route 1/Route 95. I didn't add Route 9 since it splits off at Broadway. Additionally, these streets appear to be 2-way, but I haven't added pending further confirmation (they aren't highlighted on Google Maps): Academy, West 204, Isham, West 213, West 214, West 218 Streets. Wl219 05:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
NE2 did a complete reorganization of the template, but I think it looks a bit cluttered with too many abbreviations. I'm preserving the old version here:
Manhattan | Bi-Directional Streets of||||
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West End {{{West}}} |
Uptown West 207th Street Dyckman Street West 181st Street U.S. 1/ I-95 West 165th Street West 155th Street West 145th Street 135th Street 125th Street 110th Street Central Park North 96th Street 86th Street 79th Street 72nd Street |
Midtown/
Downtown Central Park South 59th Street 57th Street 42nd Street 34th Street 23rd Street 14th Street Houston Street Delancey Street Canal Street Worth Street Chambers Street |
East End {{{East}}} | |
WSH (12) | Riverside | 11 (West End) | 10 (Amsterdam) | Dyer | 9 (Columbus) | 8 or CPW | 7 | 6 or Lenox | 5 | Madison | Park (4) | Lexington | 3 | 2 | 1 | A or York | B or East End | C | D | FDR |
Wl219 07:36, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
What is this after all the street names? It is not explained and very messy. -- Knulclunk 15:31, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Couldn't that information be on the street's article itself? -- Knulclunk 20:54, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
I see this template applied to articles to which it does not link to it (e.g., 53rd Street (Manhattan)). That's a wiki no no. Ideally every street in Manhattan should have an article (particularly the midtown streets). Does anybody have any suggestions on a master template for this (e.g., "Numbered East West Streets in Manhattan" or "Numbered East West Streets from 1st to 59th Streets in Manhattan" --59th to 110, Above 110th). Americasroof 07:06, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The only problem with the longer entires, 6th Av/ Av of the Americas/ Lenox Av/ Malcolm X Blvd; Lenox and Malcolm X are outside the template box and cut off by the browser. This happens with most of the longer entries. -- Knulclunk 13:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
It happens in Firefox on both Mac and PC. The text will not wrap around if there are not spaces between the links in the template box. -- Knulclunk 02:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Looks great! It's a shame about all those wrap codes, but it displays great here! Thank you!-- Knulclunk 03:18, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
We needed to change the template to separate the cross streets into upper, mid and downtown as well. We can change the 14th-59th midtown designation. It just seemed like a good place to start.-- Knulclunk 15:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
This template has grown so large, it looks silly on the shorter articles and stubs. Does anyone know how to make a "hidden" version, so when a user comes to the page, the template is collapsed by default? Do we want it ALWAYS to be collapsed? Or can we build the template to be shown or hidden on a page by page basis? -- Knulclunk ( talk) 03:38, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
A number of named Avenues are listed as being in Midtown but they are on the Upper West Side, but UWS is not Midtown. (Amsterdam, Columbus, Central Park West, Riverside, West End Ave) 71.190.77.101 ( talk) 23:20, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Previously, Bowery was listed under Pearl Street. I moved it to its own place on the list, and combined it with Park Row, since Park Row is a renamed section of Bowery. As Beyond My Ken points out in an edit summary, Bowery and Park Row are different. How should we list streets that are continuations of each other? Right now, Park and Fourth are listed together, as are Tenth and Amsterdam Aves, but there may be other opinions on the clearest way to list things. What should be the criteria for combinations? Fitnr 20:18, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Downtown, below the 1811 Grid, things are somewhat different. As the city grew north some streets were extended, and ran into existing streets that already had names. Other streets got straightened out and now look as if they are continuations of other streets, but have pre-existing and separate histories. We need to be cognizant of this information, and be judicious in our assumptions. Just because two streets looks as if one is a continuation of the other doesn't make it so, and we shouldn't be in the position of making declarations about things which aren't supported by reliable sources.
There's also the matter of subsequent histories after renaming. Park Row may have started its like as part of the Bowery (or vice versa - I'm not familiar enough with the history to say), but it's certainly disconnected from it now, and Park Row has an entirely different character and history then does the Bowery. I can't see any real reason, except the accident of history, for these two to be listed together.
In short, this isn't something you can make simple rules about, it's got to be looked into, evaluated, supported by sources, and discussed if necessary. One cannot go into this template with the idea that all streets that are connected are going to be combined - that's just not going to work. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 20:33, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Lafayette began life as a cul-de-sac, then was extended to what was then (IIRC) "Elm Placa". There's also the chatracter of the streets to consider. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 20:17, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
So, here's the list that I compiled.
Epicgenius( give him tirade • check out damage) 19:41, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure the West Side Highway is best shown under "Lower West Side" (Tribeca). I suggest it should be the last entry in "Major avenues" (which should not be capitalized). It is also unclear to me why the FDR Drive is not listed at all; I suggest it should be the first entry in "Major avenues". -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 05:22, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
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I'm not that familiar with Harlem, Washington Heights, and Inwood, but according to Google Maps these streets appear to be 2-way, which I've added: West 207, Dyckman, West 181, West 165, West 155, West 145, 135 Streets. Also, I've added Route 1/Route 95. I didn't add Route 9 since it splits off at Broadway. Additionally, these streets appear to be 2-way, but I haven't added pending further confirmation (they aren't highlighted on Google Maps): Academy, West 204, Isham, West 213, West 214, West 218 Streets. Wl219 05:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
NE2 did a complete reorganization of the template, but I think it looks a bit cluttered with too many abbreviations. I'm preserving the old version here:
Manhattan | Bi-Directional Streets of||||
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West End {{{West}}} |
Uptown West 207th Street Dyckman Street West 181st Street U.S. 1/ I-95 West 165th Street West 155th Street West 145th Street 135th Street 125th Street 110th Street Central Park North 96th Street 86th Street 79th Street 72nd Street |
Midtown/
Downtown Central Park South 59th Street 57th Street 42nd Street 34th Street 23rd Street 14th Street Houston Street Delancey Street Canal Street Worth Street Chambers Street |
East End {{{East}}} | |
WSH (12) | Riverside | 11 (West End) | 10 (Amsterdam) | Dyer | 9 (Columbus) | 8 or CPW | 7 | 6 or Lenox | 5 | Madison | Park (4) | Lexington | 3 | 2 | 1 | A or York | B or East End | C | D | FDR |
Wl219 07:36, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
What is this after all the street names? It is not explained and very messy. -- Knulclunk 15:31, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Couldn't that information be on the street's article itself? -- Knulclunk 20:54, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
I see this template applied to articles to which it does not link to it (e.g., 53rd Street (Manhattan)). That's a wiki no no. Ideally every street in Manhattan should have an article (particularly the midtown streets). Does anybody have any suggestions on a master template for this (e.g., "Numbered East West Streets in Manhattan" or "Numbered East West Streets from 1st to 59th Streets in Manhattan" --59th to 110, Above 110th). Americasroof 07:06, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The only problem with the longer entires, 6th Av/ Av of the Americas/ Lenox Av/ Malcolm X Blvd; Lenox and Malcolm X are outside the template box and cut off by the browser. This happens with most of the longer entries. -- Knulclunk 13:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
It happens in Firefox on both Mac and PC. The text will not wrap around if there are not spaces between the links in the template box. -- Knulclunk 02:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Looks great! It's a shame about all those wrap codes, but it displays great here! Thank you!-- Knulclunk 03:18, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
We needed to change the template to separate the cross streets into upper, mid and downtown as well. We can change the 14th-59th midtown designation. It just seemed like a good place to start.-- Knulclunk 15:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
This template has grown so large, it looks silly on the shorter articles and stubs. Does anyone know how to make a "hidden" version, so when a user comes to the page, the template is collapsed by default? Do we want it ALWAYS to be collapsed? Or can we build the template to be shown or hidden on a page by page basis? -- Knulclunk ( talk) 03:38, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
A number of named Avenues are listed as being in Midtown but they are on the Upper West Side, but UWS is not Midtown. (Amsterdam, Columbus, Central Park West, Riverside, West End Ave) 71.190.77.101 ( talk) 23:20, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Previously, Bowery was listed under Pearl Street. I moved it to its own place on the list, and combined it with Park Row, since Park Row is a renamed section of Bowery. As Beyond My Ken points out in an edit summary, Bowery and Park Row are different. How should we list streets that are continuations of each other? Right now, Park and Fourth are listed together, as are Tenth and Amsterdam Aves, but there may be other opinions on the clearest way to list things. What should be the criteria for combinations? Fitnr 20:18, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Downtown, below the 1811 Grid, things are somewhat different. As the city grew north some streets were extended, and ran into existing streets that already had names. Other streets got straightened out and now look as if they are continuations of other streets, but have pre-existing and separate histories. We need to be cognizant of this information, and be judicious in our assumptions. Just because two streets looks as if one is a continuation of the other doesn't make it so, and we shouldn't be in the position of making declarations about things which aren't supported by reliable sources.
There's also the matter of subsequent histories after renaming. Park Row may have started its like as part of the Bowery (or vice versa - I'm not familiar enough with the history to say), but it's certainly disconnected from it now, and Park Row has an entirely different character and history then does the Bowery. I can't see any real reason, except the accident of history, for these two to be listed together.
In short, this isn't something you can make simple rules about, it's got to be looked into, evaluated, supported by sources, and discussed if necessary. One cannot go into this template with the idea that all streets that are connected are going to be combined - that's just not going to work. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 20:33, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Lafayette began life as a cul-de-sac, then was extended to what was then (IIRC) "Elm Placa". There's also the chatracter of the streets to consider. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 20:17, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
So, here's the list that I compiled.
Epicgenius( give him tirade • check out damage) 19:41, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure the West Side Highway is best shown under "Lower West Side" (Tribeca). I suggest it should be the last entry in "Major avenues" (which should not be capitalized). It is also unclear to me why the FDR Drive is not listed at all; I suggest it should be the first entry in "Major avenues". -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 05:22, 2 January 2022 (UTC)