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The creator of the template highlighted to me that the guidance for this included "anthology" as an option for this field. However "Anthology" is a statement of type of collection, not media for delivery. "Anthology" is a type of collection which can be delivered, via a number of media types. Print or Online, although usually print and usually in book form. We doo need to be clear what is what when we use fields. If we need to use the designation " anthology" that would more naturally go in a qualification to the "released_in" i.e. "[[Sample title]] (short story collection)" or "[[Sample title]] (short story anthology)". Or maybe we need a new field for this information, it just isn't a media-type. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 08:55, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Could this template also be used for poems? Personally, I'd think it'd fit well. Thoughts? - Elizabennet | talk 21:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
How should preceded_by
and followed_by
be used? To link to other stories in a series (possibly by other authors), if any — or any other stories by this story's author?
In response to the last set of changes to "released_in", "release_date", and "english_release_date", I have tried to make everything consistent but using the "pub" element instead. The old parameters still work but are deprecated. These new ones should be used and the documentation should reflect these changes. Also the pattern template for this usage has been revised, which hadn't been done. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 08:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
This template appears to be inserting a couple of blank lines before the start of articles it is used in. Have a look at The Black Cat (short story) and The Gift of the Magi. Can this be fixed? -- Bruce1ee 13:27, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't the short story title be double-quoted instead of italicized? -- Bruce1ee 11:00, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
The preceded_by
and followed_by
parameters are rendered, incorrectly, in italic type. Short story titles should be in roman type enclosed in quotation marks. By the way, why is the first parameter called name
rather than title
?
Finell
(Talk) 09:39, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't the full documentation of the template's usage (not just the names of the parameters and statement of which are compulsory) be on the template page itself (rather than on this talk page), formatted the same as {{ Infobox book}}?? Finell (Talk) 09:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I've noticed that a few articles on short stories include cover scans, so I added "image" and "caption" parameters. Bryan Derksen ( talk) 04:54, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I think that, once used in an article, the media field ends up misleading. Looking at The Bicentennial Man, it looks like its saying that the story itself is a book. This ought to be clarified, somehow. SamBC( talk) 18:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Would it make sense to add a field pointing to online texts? For example, both the full text and audio versions of The Merchant and the Alchemist's Gate are available for free online. Espertus ( talk) 05:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
The previous discussion on adding an image tag ended without a firm resolution. I support the adding of such a tag because many short stories are published in a standalone form, even those that are originally in a periodical or collection. It makes no sense for such are to be forced below the infobox (e.g. the cover art in Johnny Mnemonic looks sloppily placed. In addition some short story to have accompanying art included in the larger work (e.g. Jabberwocky, alright I know it's a poem but I couldn't think of a proper example off the top of my head). It also should be noted that though most short stories are not originally published as a standalone work, some are. Since an image tag is never mandatory, providing the option is beneficial.-- Marcus Brute ( talk) 19:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
There should at least be an option to allow italics rather than quotation marks for preceding and following works, as not all short stories are preceded/followed by other short stories; many are in series with novels, for example. Unless anyone objects, I'll make new parameters (perhaps "preceded by italic"/"followed by italic") to change the formatting. -- xensyria T 23:15, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
preceded
/followed by italics
parameters replace preceded
/followed by
when they're needed, rather than using them as a switch. I've made the changes in the
sandbox, but in order to properly migrate existing uses (which won't break under the new template, but won't display with italics either), I'd like to make a temporary test edit to see where there parameters are being used. I'm not sure if this breaches any policies (as it might cause unnecessary work for the server), so I've asked about it
here and
been advised to raise it on this talk page too. --
xensyria
T 22:02, 2 March 2013 (UTC)Suggest WS parameter, like {{ infobox book}}. Moondyne ( talk) 13:25, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
The quotemarks on the title are liable to break—take a look at The Story of the Three Bears, where the closing quotemark appears on the next line. Can this be fixed? Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 21:16, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I suggest changing the preceded by and followed by sections to be similar to infobox:album. You can see a testcase at the bottom of Template:Infobox short story/testcases. Any thoughts or suggestions on this potential edit? Bluealbion ( talk) 04:41, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Titles of short stories should be enclosed in double quotation marks per MOS:QUOTETITLE. Should the template be updated to reflect this? Οἶδα ( talk) 09:53, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
How about adding a field "Collected in", for short stories originally published online, in magazines, etc that were later collected in a volume of the author's works? McPhail ( talk) 17:51, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
This template was nominated for
deletion. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination:
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Books Template‑class | |||||||
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Novels Template‑class High‑importance | ||||||||||
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The creator of the template highlighted to me that the guidance for this included "anthology" as an option for this field. However "Anthology" is a statement of type of collection, not media for delivery. "Anthology" is a type of collection which can be delivered, via a number of media types. Print or Online, although usually print and usually in book form. We doo need to be clear what is what when we use fields. If we need to use the designation " anthology" that would more naturally go in a qualification to the "released_in" i.e. "[[Sample title]] (short story collection)" or "[[Sample title]] (short story anthology)". Or maybe we need a new field for this information, it just isn't a media-type. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 08:55, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Could this template also be used for poems? Personally, I'd think it'd fit well. Thoughts? - Elizabennet | talk 21:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
How should preceded_by
and followed_by
be used? To link to other stories in a series (possibly by other authors), if any — or any other stories by this story's author?
In response to the last set of changes to "released_in", "release_date", and "english_release_date", I have tried to make everything consistent but using the "pub" element instead. The old parameters still work but are deprecated. These new ones should be used and the documentation should reflect these changes. Also the pattern template for this usage has been revised, which hadn't been done. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 08:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
This template appears to be inserting a couple of blank lines before the start of articles it is used in. Have a look at The Black Cat (short story) and The Gift of the Magi. Can this be fixed? -- Bruce1ee 13:27, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't the short story title be double-quoted instead of italicized? -- Bruce1ee 11:00, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
The preceded_by
and followed_by
parameters are rendered, incorrectly, in italic type. Short story titles should be in roman type enclosed in quotation marks. By the way, why is the first parameter called name
rather than title
?
Finell
(Talk) 09:39, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't the full documentation of the template's usage (not just the names of the parameters and statement of which are compulsory) be on the template page itself (rather than on this talk page), formatted the same as {{ Infobox book}}?? Finell (Talk) 09:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I've noticed that a few articles on short stories include cover scans, so I added "image" and "caption" parameters. Bryan Derksen ( talk) 04:54, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I think that, once used in an article, the media field ends up misleading. Looking at The Bicentennial Man, it looks like its saying that the story itself is a book. This ought to be clarified, somehow. SamBC( talk) 18:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Would it make sense to add a field pointing to online texts? For example, both the full text and audio versions of The Merchant and the Alchemist's Gate are available for free online. Espertus ( talk) 05:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
The previous discussion on adding an image tag ended without a firm resolution. I support the adding of such a tag because many short stories are published in a standalone form, even those that are originally in a periodical or collection. It makes no sense for such are to be forced below the infobox (e.g. the cover art in Johnny Mnemonic looks sloppily placed. In addition some short story to have accompanying art included in the larger work (e.g. Jabberwocky, alright I know it's a poem but I couldn't think of a proper example off the top of my head). It also should be noted that though most short stories are not originally published as a standalone work, some are. Since an image tag is never mandatory, providing the option is beneficial.-- Marcus Brute ( talk) 19:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
There should at least be an option to allow italics rather than quotation marks for preceding and following works, as not all short stories are preceded/followed by other short stories; many are in series with novels, for example. Unless anyone objects, I'll make new parameters (perhaps "preceded by italic"/"followed by italic") to change the formatting. -- xensyria T 23:15, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
preceded
/followed by italics
parameters replace preceded
/followed by
when they're needed, rather than using them as a switch. I've made the changes in the
sandbox, but in order to properly migrate existing uses (which won't break under the new template, but won't display with italics either), I'd like to make a temporary test edit to see where there parameters are being used. I'm not sure if this breaches any policies (as it might cause unnecessary work for the server), so I've asked about it
here and
been advised to raise it on this talk page too. --
xensyria
T 22:02, 2 March 2013 (UTC)Suggest WS parameter, like {{ infobox book}}. Moondyne ( talk) 13:25, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
The quotemarks on the title are liable to break—take a look at The Story of the Three Bears, where the closing quotemark appears on the next line. Can this be fixed? Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 21:16, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I suggest changing the preceded by and followed by sections to be similar to infobox:album. You can see a testcase at the bottom of Template:Infobox short story/testcases. Any thoughts or suggestions on this potential edit? Bluealbion ( talk) 04:41, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Titles of short stories should be enclosed in double quotation marks per MOS:QUOTETITLE. Should the template be updated to reflect this? Οἶδα ( talk) 09:53, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
How about adding a field "Collected in", for short stories originally published online, in magazines, etc that were later collected in a volume of the author's works? McPhail ( talk) 17:51, 27 March 2023 (UTC)