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This template is, content-wise, the same as Template:Histalbania. One of the two should be merged into the other. Constantine ✍ 14:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Maybe to put Serbian occupation of Albania in this template? -- Mladifilozof ( talk) 19:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Article Albania in the Balkan Wars should be placed before (above) articles about declaring Albania independent and before article about provisional government that was created, because Balkan Wars started about two months before those events.-- Antidiskriminator ( talk) 18:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
From some reason Roman Empire and Ottoman Empire are excluded from the list of Empires that Albania was under. There is list of empires that Albania was under:
And from some reason there are three empires that are excluded from this list of empires that Albania was under. One is Roman Empire, second is Venetian Empire and other is Ottoman Empire. From some reason periods when Roman Empire, Venetians or Ottoman Empire controlled territory that today belongs to Albania were named differently:
What is the reason for such different treatment of Empires? Maybe using term under is against NPOV and can suggest that Albania had special subordinate treatment in Byzantine, Bulgarian and Serbian Empire and not in Roman, Venetian or Ottoman Empire? Maybe it would be good to rename those articles to:
or:
-- Antidiskriminator ( talk) 18:49, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
I think that this template is probably the only template about history of certain European state and it's territory that contains article about origin of people of one ethnicity. I propose to delete origin part from this template.-- Antidiskriminator ( talk) 16:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
In this edit one user complained about using painting of Skanderbeg in this template. He stated that he believes that it is against WP:MOSICON and WP:ICONDECORATION. I am not very experienced user and I am not sure if I can interpret those rules properly. If the use of Skanderbeg in this template is appropriate and if it does not violate the WP rules I propose to think about using another image of Skanderbeg instead of the existing. In the existing image Skanderbeg is pictured like Catholic priest (with barret (flat cap worn by Roman Catholic ecclesiastics) under his hat), in clothes that resembles the clothes of Catholic priest and with inscription on Latin. Not only that majority of the people could not recognize him in this image, but it could mislead readers to believe that he was a priest. Big part (maybe even major) of his life he was not even a Catholic, but Muslim and Orthodox. He never was a Catholic priest. Therefore, if there is consensus to have image of Skanderbeg in this template, and if it does not violate above mentioned WP rules, I propose to put some other image that would resemble Skanderbeg.-- Antidiskriminator ( talk) 11:31, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
(unindent) Antid please don't go OR-ing. Scanderbeg is the main figure and easy recognizable. As for the fact of being Christian figure in a (nowadays) majority Moslem population, I don't see the point of your argument, because it is outside the topic context. FYI even the figure of Rozafa or the picture of Apollonia reflect pagan times, by your logic would be also not appropriate. If you don't like the "christian" hat find another picture with the helmet and end this discussion. Aigest ( talk) 14:18, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
This is obviously not only much better corresponding to other European countries histories templates, but also much better looking choice.-- Antidiskriminator ( talk) 01:36, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
History of Albania |
Prehistory
Antiquity
Middle Ages
Ottoman Albania
Post-Independence
Contemporary Albania
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There is a gap of more than 300 years within section about Ottoman Albania. I propose to fill this gap with following articles which describe high level administrative units of Ottoman Empire which establishing started after first Ottoman conquests in Albania:
Albania Template‑class High‑importance | ||||||||||
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History Template‑class Mid‑importance | ||||||||||
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This template is, content-wise, the same as Template:Histalbania. One of the two should be merged into the other. Constantine ✍ 14:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Maybe to put Serbian occupation of Albania in this template? -- Mladifilozof ( talk) 19:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Article Albania in the Balkan Wars should be placed before (above) articles about declaring Albania independent and before article about provisional government that was created, because Balkan Wars started about two months before those events.-- Antidiskriminator ( talk) 18:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
From some reason Roman Empire and Ottoman Empire are excluded from the list of Empires that Albania was under. There is list of empires that Albania was under:
And from some reason there are three empires that are excluded from this list of empires that Albania was under. One is Roman Empire, second is Venetian Empire and other is Ottoman Empire. From some reason periods when Roman Empire, Venetians or Ottoman Empire controlled territory that today belongs to Albania were named differently:
What is the reason for such different treatment of Empires? Maybe using term under is against NPOV and can suggest that Albania had special subordinate treatment in Byzantine, Bulgarian and Serbian Empire and not in Roman, Venetian or Ottoman Empire? Maybe it would be good to rename those articles to:
or:
-- Antidiskriminator ( talk) 18:49, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
I think that this template is probably the only template about history of certain European state and it's territory that contains article about origin of people of one ethnicity. I propose to delete origin part from this template.-- Antidiskriminator ( talk) 16:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
In this edit one user complained about using painting of Skanderbeg in this template. He stated that he believes that it is against WP:MOSICON and WP:ICONDECORATION. I am not very experienced user and I am not sure if I can interpret those rules properly. If the use of Skanderbeg in this template is appropriate and if it does not violate the WP rules I propose to think about using another image of Skanderbeg instead of the existing. In the existing image Skanderbeg is pictured like Catholic priest (with barret (flat cap worn by Roman Catholic ecclesiastics) under his hat), in clothes that resembles the clothes of Catholic priest and with inscription on Latin. Not only that majority of the people could not recognize him in this image, but it could mislead readers to believe that he was a priest. Big part (maybe even major) of his life he was not even a Catholic, but Muslim and Orthodox. He never was a Catholic priest. Therefore, if there is consensus to have image of Skanderbeg in this template, and if it does not violate above mentioned WP rules, I propose to put some other image that would resemble Skanderbeg.-- Antidiskriminator ( talk) 11:31, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
(unindent) Antid please don't go OR-ing. Scanderbeg is the main figure and easy recognizable. As for the fact of being Christian figure in a (nowadays) majority Moslem population, I don't see the point of your argument, because it is outside the topic context. FYI even the figure of Rozafa or the picture of Apollonia reflect pagan times, by your logic would be also not appropriate. If you don't like the "christian" hat find another picture with the helmet and end this discussion. Aigest ( talk) 14:18, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
This is obviously not only much better corresponding to other European countries histories templates, but also much better looking choice.-- Antidiskriminator ( talk) 01:36, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
History of Albania |
Prehistory
Antiquity
Middle Ages
Ottoman Albania
Post-Independence
Contemporary Albania
|
{{doc}}
There is a gap of more than 300 years within section about Ottoman Albania. I propose to fill this gap with following articles which describe high level administrative units of Ottoman Empire which establishing started after first Ottoman conquests in Albania: