United States: Hispanic and Latino Template‑class | ||||||||||
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You are invited to participate in the
Hispanic and Latino Americans task force, a project dedicated to developing and improving articles about
Latinos and
Hispanics. Currently, we are discussing prospects for the project. Your input would be greatly appreciated! |
Please help with the Latino template. -- JuanMuslim 1m 03:37, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm adding the current code for the Latino template.-- JuanMuslim 1m 19:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Part of a series of articles on |
Latinos and
Hispanics in the United States |
---|
Groups |
Asian Latinos |
History |
Religions |
Christian Churches |
Political movements |
Chicano Movement |
Organizations |
Association of Hispanic Arts |
Culture |
Literature ·
Studies |
Languages |
English |
Lists |
Majority Hispanic U.S. Cities |
Thank you for helping out with the Latino template. What do you think should be the image at the top of the template? And, what colors do you think should be used?-- JuanMuslim 1m 20:44, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
I think the questions of colors and images are secondary at this point. Right now we should be trying to determine whether or not the template is merited. Are there enough articles to add into it to make it useful? What articles should it be placed on? What benefit will it provide to readers of the encyclopedia? What are its parameters? Will it apply to all of Latin America or just Latinos in the United States? These are the questions we should be discussing right now. And to be frank, it doesn't seem like it will do much good at this point. Once the parameters are determined, then we can get started on writing articles that pertain to Latinos as a whole. The template should be like a finishing touch to enhance to a body of articles, not an outline to determine what needs to be written.-- Rockero 20:53, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
From what I saw in the template not found in the talk page, Afro-Latin American was included in the template in January 2007. But are also found in African American and other articles dealing with the African diaspora or the African race ( Africans). The template on the above is old and not the official template used in the Wikipedia project. + 63.3.14.1 09:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC) Mike D 26 14:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Saludos y Asalamalaykim, Juan Muslim! I notice you signed on as a participant in the Mexican-American/Chicano WikiProject, and I want to extend you a warm welcome. I also notice you started {{ Latino}}. What were you planning on doing with that? That is, what is your vision for it? What do you want it to accomplish? The project members and I may be able to help you with it, but I need to know in what direction you want to take it.
I also notice that you have been editing Islam-related articles. If there way you can share your knowledge about Islam in the Mexican American community, it would be greatly appreciated. Most of our religious articles have been focused on Roman Catholicism, and some diversity in the religious experiences of Mexican Americans needs to be represented. There are many articles that need to be written (see the tasks list), and a long-term project goal is to elevate Chicano Movement to featured article status. If you'd like to help with these or any other projects, please dig in. Also, if you have any questions or suggestions, please discuss them on the Project talkpage or on my talkpage.
Good to have you aboard, -- Rockero 16:33, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
You are invited to participate in the
Hispanic and Latino Americans task force, a project dedicated to developing and improving articles about
Latinos and
Hispanics. Currently, we are discussing prospects for the project. Your input would be greatly appreciated! |
(Portuguese people is the article about the diaspora, Lusa Americans refers to US people)
So what? Please explain why it's not allowed in the template. And no, portuguese people is not necessarily diaspora. Portuguese people is portuguese people. You may be thinking of portuguese american/luso american.
Casey, there has been lengthy discussion on the talkpage of the Latino article as to just who is a "Latino", with the consensus that in English, "Latino" refers to the inhabitants of Latin America and their descendants.--Rockero 17:59, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
No, not English per se, but mainly in the USA. is this USA wiki? and just how do you come to the conclusion that an agreement has been reached? maybe i just am not fully aware of the rules for this template. i just want to know.
-- Lusitano Transmontano 19:55, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
-- Lusitano Transmontano 00:28, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Greetings,
I have read the "Latino" Wikipedia page and the "Hispanic" wikipedia page. Both of them say more or less the same, the "Latino" one even specifically stating that European-born speakers of latin languages are not included:
"Persons of Portuguese, Italian, or French heritage, while being European, Caucasian and "Latin" in the European sense of the word, are speakers of the worlds romance languages, "Latinos" as used in the United States, but are not considered latinos."
Hispanic even less so, for all the reasons that are known. It even has a map in the article showing the "Hispanic World", with Portugal ommited of course.
With that in mind, I fail to understand why are "Luso-americans" and "Portuguese Americans" included in a group of articles about "Latinos and Hispanics". Even more ridiculous is that "Spanish Americans" are nowhere to be seen in the info box. The info box contradicts the Wikipedia definitions and the definitions of the linked articles and can even be considered offensive due to historical reasons.
I'm waiting for some kind of feedback on this, otherwise I'll change the infobox. I'll wait one day since the incongruency is really ridiculous, even considering that were using the "american" redifinitions of terms that are vague, misleading and more or less useless.. Greetings, Fred -- 195.245.185.32 16:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
That is a controversial use in the Puerto Rican community, usually used by those who support anexing Puerto Rico to the USA and not used by those who seek other relationships. Its use violates WP:NPOV, I am changing.-- Cerejota 05:56, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
There are 20 countries with Spanish-speaking people in Latin America, plus Brazil made up of Portuguese-speaking people. I don't understand why the removal of Luso-Americans and Portuguese Americans, because there was an assumption of Portuguese people are not Latino. Well...the Brazilians are Latin American, but not quite Portuguese Americans whom are represented in the European American or white "racial" category (so are Hispanics of European origin, since Hispanic isn't a racial but cultural category). + 63.3.14.1 09:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Within the groups section, should we have each row state two groups, such as the first line would be Argentine Americans and Bolivian Americans? -- JuanMuslim 1m 21:32, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Can someone please explain why Brazilian Americans are listed in this template? I understand that in some definitions Brazilians and Portuguese might count as "Hispanic" or "Latino", but, as it says in the Hispanic and Latino Americans article, that is highly controversial, and definitely not what the most common usage is. The Hispanic article doesn't even mention Brazil at all. And while I know this isn't trustworthy, I know quite a few Hispanic Americans that don't think Brazilians and Portuguese belong to the same group as them. I seriously don't see why Brazilian Americans would be added to the template but not Portuguese Americans. The best option would be to keep both out of it, considering the terms "Hispanic" and "Latino" are both used to refer to Spanish heritage in the US. And they are used as synonyms as well. Even the Census Bureau excludes Brazilians and Portuguese from their definition of Hispanic or Latino. Smertios ( talk) 02:11, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
Do you think that the Ladino language should be listed on the template ?-- JuanMuslim 1m 04:14, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Should Hispanic Student Association be added? -- JuanMuslim 1m 23:18, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
The template looks pretty good, but beware making one too long for the articles on which you place it. For example, try paging to modern times from Hugh Capet up through Louis_VII_of_France and beyond and watch the page bottom. Something like that would be well if it were broken into shorter templates that could be included at need, or a bottom across width where it doesn't force unfortunate formating effects on other things on the article bottom. We're having a little discussion on such presentation problems, for a little more on the issue. Best wishes! // Fra nkB 02:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Hispanics and Religion link from the template. It was red highlighted and a deadlink, so why keep it? 04:10, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
There are numerous red/dead links on the template. It seriously makes the template look less concise and appealing...at least to me. Jmlk17 21:05, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
What is the source of this flag? I have never seen this flag in real life, and I think it is rather strange being used as a symbol for "Latinos in the United States".-- Cerejota 06:00, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
I've just added another block for Portal. Should I another called Category or is the one called List good enough? I was thinking that it might be a good idea considering all the articles found in the categories pertaining to Latinos and Hispanics. -- JuanMuslim 1m 13:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
The Wikipedia Latinos in the US project should include more small subcultures in the Hispanic population: Punjabi Mexican Americans in California had descended from East Indians who arrived in the 1920's but accepted into the Mexican community, Filipinos of Mexican descent whose ancestors of Asian origins came from the Philippines into Mexico or are products of intermarriage between the two linked groups, and the Cherokee in Mexico whom also are migrating to the US, where the Cherokee people originally came from in the late 1800's. + Mike D 26 14:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Hello. I've written an article entitled Mexicans in Omaha, Nebraska that might be of interest for this template. Please consider including it, and taking a look at the talk page where there is a concern about having an article about this specific topic. – Freechild ( ¡!¡!¡!¡) 12:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Please refer to the talk page of History of Latinos and Hispanics. -- JuanMuslim 1m 21:21, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
I propose to include New Mexican Spanish under language, as there is still a significant population of speakers, and it ties to the unique history of this area of the nation and to the speakers themselves. Kehkou ( talk) 15:42, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
I will precede to add both New Mexican Spanish and Puerto Rican Spanish to the template on the 21st (one week) unless someone objects. Kehkou ( talk) 00:01, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Because whether the Casta system existed is not universally supported by academia and because racially categorizing latin americans is racist. Php2000 ( talk) 00:31, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
United States: Hispanic and Latino Template‑class | ||||||||||
|
You are invited to participate in the
Hispanic and Latino Americans task force, a project dedicated to developing and improving articles about
Latinos and
Hispanics. Currently, we are discussing prospects for the project. Your input would be greatly appreciated! |
Please help with the Latino template. -- JuanMuslim 1m 03:37, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm adding the current code for the Latino template.-- JuanMuslim 1m 19:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Part of a series of articles on |
Latinos and
Hispanics in the United States |
---|
Groups |
Asian Latinos |
History |
Religions |
Christian Churches |
Political movements |
Chicano Movement |
Organizations |
Association of Hispanic Arts |
Culture |
Literature ·
Studies |
Languages |
English |
Lists |
Majority Hispanic U.S. Cities |
Thank you for helping out with the Latino template. What do you think should be the image at the top of the template? And, what colors do you think should be used?-- JuanMuslim 1m 20:44, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
I think the questions of colors and images are secondary at this point. Right now we should be trying to determine whether or not the template is merited. Are there enough articles to add into it to make it useful? What articles should it be placed on? What benefit will it provide to readers of the encyclopedia? What are its parameters? Will it apply to all of Latin America or just Latinos in the United States? These are the questions we should be discussing right now. And to be frank, it doesn't seem like it will do much good at this point. Once the parameters are determined, then we can get started on writing articles that pertain to Latinos as a whole. The template should be like a finishing touch to enhance to a body of articles, not an outline to determine what needs to be written.-- Rockero 20:53, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
From what I saw in the template not found in the talk page, Afro-Latin American was included in the template in January 2007. But are also found in African American and other articles dealing with the African diaspora or the African race ( Africans). The template on the above is old and not the official template used in the Wikipedia project. + 63.3.14.1 09:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC) Mike D 26 14:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Saludos y Asalamalaykim, Juan Muslim! I notice you signed on as a participant in the Mexican-American/Chicano WikiProject, and I want to extend you a warm welcome. I also notice you started {{ Latino}}. What were you planning on doing with that? That is, what is your vision for it? What do you want it to accomplish? The project members and I may be able to help you with it, but I need to know in what direction you want to take it.
I also notice that you have been editing Islam-related articles. If there way you can share your knowledge about Islam in the Mexican American community, it would be greatly appreciated. Most of our religious articles have been focused on Roman Catholicism, and some diversity in the religious experiences of Mexican Americans needs to be represented. There are many articles that need to be written (see the tasks list), and a long-term project goal is to elevate Chicano Movement to featured article status. If you'd like to help with these or any other projects, please dig in. Also, if you have any questions or suggestions, please discuss them on the Project talkpage or on my talkpage.
Good to have you aboard, -- Rockero 16:33, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
You are invited to participate in the
Hispanic and Latino Americans task force, a project dedicated to developing and improving articles about
Latinos and
Hispanics. Currently, we are discussing prospects for the project. Your input would be greatly appreciated! |
(Portuguese people is the article about the diaspora, Lusa Americans refers to US people)
So what? Please explain why it's not allowed in the template. And no, portuguese people is not necessarily diaspora. Portuguese people is portuguese people. You may be thinking of portuguese american/luso american.
Casey, there has been lengthy discussion on the talkpage of the Latino article as to just who is a "Latino", with the consensus that in English, "Latino" refers to the inhabitants of Latin America and their descendants.--Rockero 17:59, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
No, not English per se, but mainly in the USA. is this USA wiki? and just how do you come to the conclusion that an agreement has been reached? maybe i just am not fully aware of the rules for this template. i just want to know.
-- Lusitano Transmontano 19:55, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
-- Lusitano Transmontano 00:28, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Greetings,
I have read the "Latino" Wikipedia page and the "Hispanic" wikipedia page. Both of them say more or less the same, the "Latino" one even specifically stating that European-born speakers of latin languages are not included:
"Persons of Portuguese, Italian, or French heritage, while being European, Caucasian and "Latin" in the European sense of the word, are speakers of the worlds romance languages, "Latinos" as used in the United States, but are not considered latinos."
Hispanic even less so, for all the reasons that are known. It even has a map in the article showing the "Hispanic World", with Portugal ommited of course.
With that in mind, I fail to understand why are "Luso-americans" and "Portuguese Americans" included in a group of articles about "Latinos and Hispanics". Even more ridiculous is that "Spanish Americans" are nowhere to be seen in the info box. The info box contradicts the Wikipedia definitions and the definitions of the linked articles and can even be considered offensive due to historical reasons.
I'm waiting for some kind of feedback on this, otherwise I'll change the infobox. I'll wait one day since the incongruency is really ridiculous, even considering that were using the "american" redifinitions of terms that are vague, misleading and more or less useless.. Greetings, Fred -- 195.245.185.32 16:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
That is a controversial use in the Puerto Rican community, usually used by those who support anexing Puerto Rico to the USA and not used by those who seek other relationships. Its use violates WP:NPOV, I am changing.-- Cerejota 05:56, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
There are 20 countries with Spanish-speaking people in Latin America, plus Brazil made up of Portuguese-speaking people. I don't understand why the removal of Luso-Americans and Portuguese Americans, because there was an assumption of Portuguese people are not Latino. Well...the Brazilians are Latin American, but not quite Portuguese Americans whom are represented in the European American or white "racial" category (so are Hispanics of European origin, since Hispanic isn't a racial but cultural category). + 63.3.14.1 09:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Within the groups section, should we have each row state two groups, such as the first line would be Argentine Americans and Bolivian Americans? -- JuanMuslim 1m 21:32, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Can someone please explain why Brazilian Americans are listed in this template? I understand that in some definitions Brazilians and Portuguese might count as "Hispanic" or "Latino", but, as it says in the Hispanic and Latino Americans article, that is highly controversial, and definitely not what the most common usage is. The Hispanic article doesn't even mention Brazil at all. And while I know this isn't trustworthy, I know quite a few Hispanic Americans that don't think Brazilians and Portuguese belong to the same group as them. I seriously don't see why Brazilian Americans would be added to the template but not Portuguese Americans. The best option would be to keep both out of it, considering the terms "Hispanic" and "Latino" are both used to refer to Spanish heritage in the US. And they are used as synonyms as well. Even the Census Bureau excludes Brazilians and Portuguese from their definition of Hispanic or Latino. Smertios ( talk) 02:11, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
Do you think that the Ladino language should be listed on the template ?-- JuanMuslim 1m 04:14, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Should Hispanic Student Association be added? -- JuanMuslim 1m 23:18, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
The template looks pretty good, but beware making one too long for the articles on which you place it. For example, try paging to modern times from Hugh Capet up through Louis_VII_of_France and beyond and watch the page bottom. Something like that would be well if it were broken into shorter templates that could be included at need, or a bottom across width where it doesn't force unfortunate formating effects on other things on the article bottom. We're having a little discussion on such presentation problems, for a little more on the issue. Best wishes! // Fra nkB 02:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Hispanics and Religion link from the template. It was red highlighted and a deadlink, so why keep it? 04:10, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
There are numerous red/dead links on the template. It seriously makes the template look less concise and appealing...at least to me. Jmlk17 21:05, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
What is the source of this flag? I have never seen this flag in real life, and I think it is rather strange being used as a symbol for "Latinos in the United States".-- Cerejota 06:00, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
I've just added another block for Portal. Should I another called Category or is the one called List good enough? I was thinking that it might be a good idea considering all the articles found in the categories pertaining to Latinos and Hispanics. -- JuanMuslim 1m 13:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
The Wikipedia Latinos in the US project should include more small subcultures in the Hispanic population: Punjabi Mexican Americans in California had descended from East Indians who arrived in the 1920's but accepted into the Mexican community, Filipinos of Mexican descent whose ancestors of Asian origins came from the Philippines into Mexico or are products of intermarriage between the two linked groups, and the Cherokee in Mexico whom also are migrating to the US, where the Cherokee people originally came from in the late 1800's. + Mike D 26 14:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Hello. I've written an article entitled Mexicans in Omaha, Nebraska that might be of interest for this template. Please consider including it, and taking a look at the talk page where there is a concern about having an article about this specific topic. – Freechild ( ¡!¡!¡!¡) 12:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Please refer to the talk page of History of Latinos and Hispanics. -- JuanMuslim 1m 21:21, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
I propose to include New Mexican Spanish under language, as there is still a significant population of speakers, and it ties to the unique history of this area of the nation and to the speakers themselves. Kehkou ( talk) 15:42, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
I will precede to add both New Mexican Spanish and Puerto Rican Spanish to the template on the 21st (one week) unless someone objects. Kehkou ( talk) 00:01, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Because whether the Casta system existed is not universally supported by academia and because racially categorizing latin americans is racist. Php2000 ( talk) 00:31, 9 May 2020 (UTC)