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Group R, Rally Group 1, R-GT and speed record attempts

In this template, Groups 2-5 are in a parenthesis next to Group R.

Why is Group 1 excluded? Is it not possible for Groups 1 and R-GT to make speed record attempts?

The article Groups Rally reads "Group Rally2 became the new name for R5 of Group R."

Is Group R being phased out?

George Rodney Maruri Game ( talk) 22:26, 30 April 2022 (UTC) reply

These definitions are from Appendix J, Article 251 and App J, Article 281. So, Group Rally1 is Category II, which are competition vehicles "Cars built as single examples and destined solely for competition" (even though they are road legal). They have different build structure and include hybrid propulsion not common to the road cars they are designed to look like. Groups Rally2-5 are Category I, series production cars, cars modified from consumer cars. Yes, Group R is being phased out. Essentially, but not exactly, R5, R2 and R1 became Rally2, Rally4 and Rally5. Rally3 is new but was added into the same rules document for Rally4 and Rally5 (details on those articles). Group R's R3 is still permitted for few more years but no new cars will be homologated. Group R-GT will still continue but always had its own ruleset anyway, and is Cat II. Hope that helps. Rally Wonk ( talk) 23:22, 30 April 2022 (UTC) reply
Also, I forgot, the Speed Record attempts are entirely different Groups and Categories defined in Appendix D. This template is only Appendix J for the various motorsport competitions. Rally Wonk ( talk) 23:26, 30 April 2022 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
WikiProject icon Motorsport NA‑class
WikiProject iconThis template is within the scope of WikiProject Motorsport, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Motorsport on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
NAThis template does not require a rating on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.

Group R, Rally Group 1, R-GT and speed record attempts

In this template, Groups 2-5 are in a parenthesis next to Group R.

Why is Group 1 excluded? Is it not possible for Groups 1 and R-GT to make speed record attempts?

The article Groups Rally reads "Group Rally2 became the new name for R5 of Group R."

Is Group R being phased out?

George Rodney Maruri Game ( talk) 22:26, 30 April 2022 (UTC) reply

These definitions are from Appendix J, Article 251 and App J, Article 281. So, Group Rally1 is Category II, which are competition vehicles "Cars built as single examples and destined solely for competition" (even though they are road legal). They have different build structure and include hybrid propulsion not common to the road cars they are designed to look like. Groups Rally2-5 are Category I, series production cars, cars modified from consumer cars. Yes, Group R is being phased out. Essentially, but not exactly, R5, R2 and R1 became Rally2, Rally4 and Rally5. Rally3 is new but was added into the same rules document for Rally4 and Rally5 (details on those articles). Group R's R3 is still permitted for few more years but no new cars will be homologated. Group R-GT will still continue but always had its own ruleset anyway, and is Cat II. Hope that helps. Rally Wonk ( talk) 23:22, 30 April 2022 (UTC) reply
Also, I forgot, the Speed Record attempts are entirely different Groups and Categories defined in Appendix D. This template is only Appendix J for the various motorsport competitions. Rally Wonk ( talk) 23:26, 30 April 2022 (UTC) reply

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