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I'd like to:
{{Expand language}}
template.Category:Military articles needing translation from French Wikipedia does exist as a subcat of Category:Articles needing translation from French Wikipedia and this would help classification; with military precision it does seem to be used on many military history articles: search for "topic=mil" and await results. But that is not yet recognised by this template.
Certainly, passing the topic through to the underlying {{Expand language}}
template seems reasonable for the default switch; it would save the need to ask for further edits to the template if the categories are augmented.
This should not break anything, at worst something erroneously classified as "topic=mil" would end up in a subcategory of how it is currently categorized (and thus by inheritance still be a member of that category). Si Trew ( talk) 21:36, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
On the article Kahun Papyri, I have added Template:Expand German and Template:Expand French. While the German View link on "View a machine-translated version of the German article." works properly, the corresponding French View link does not. (I'm getting the error: The page you requested attempted to redirect to itself, which could cause an infinite loop. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_d'El-Lahoun)
Both languages have something substantial to add to the article, yet they are quite different from each other. In other words, there is something different to be gained from each of the languages. Thinking that the problem may stem from having two expand templates at the same time, I tried switching the order of templates, French first, then German second, but the problem remained with the French template, only. Trying to go to Google Translate directly and submitting https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_d'El-Lahoun gets me the same error. I'm not certain if the problem is with Google Translate itself, or more likely, the French Wikipedia server. While I'll attempt to translate the article myself, I thought someone should know about the problem. Hi-storian ( talk) 20:14, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
This tag should be at the bottom. There are tags that contain warnings about problems, such as poor formulations, lack of supporting references or questionable content. Such tags are important for the reader and should therefore be placed at the top. Other tags are more for administration of the improvements (editing) of the encyclopedia. These should not be placed at the top, where they disturb the reader. The tag most like this one is the stub. Such tags should be at the bottom of the article, as the stub tag is. This tag (Expand French) seems to normally be placed at the top. To repeat: This makes the encyclopedia less good than it would be with the tag at the bottom. -- Ettrig ( talk) 17:45, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
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Change the German example on this (and on all other foreign-language expansion templates to their respective languages) to French. 𝕎𝕚𝕜𝕚𝕎𝕒𝕣𝕣𝕚𝕠𝕣𝟡𝟡𝟙𝟡 ( talk) 12:53, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Content in this edit is translated from the existing German Wikipedia article at [[:de:Exact name of German article]]; see its history for attribution.
changed? The correct location to request that change is
Template:Expand language, the change for which is not obviously trivial and will require some more discussion prior to the edit request (specifically both a consensus generation discussion and a discussion as to proposed implementation). --
Izno (
talk) 13:38, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Change this... :
A model attribution edit summary (using German): Content in this edit is translated from the existing German Wikipedia article at [[:de:Exact name of German article]]; see its history for attribution.
...to this:
A model attribution edit summary: Content in this edit is translated from the existing French Wikipedia article at [[:fr:Exact name of German article]]; see its history for attribution.
...and so on for all the other foreign-language templates. 𝕎𝕚𝕜𝕚𝕎𝕒𝕣𝕣𝕚𝕠𝕣𝟡𝟡𝟙𝟡 ( talk) 12:17, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
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In the third to last bullet there's a missing colon or "is" after "a model attribution edit summary". Danstronger ( talk) 13:33, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Template:Expand language has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. -- N8wilson 11:56, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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Should include the standard aliases "cult" and "transp" for Culture and Transportation topics. Numberguy6 ( talk) 16:52, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
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Description of suggested change: Since there are 18 subcategories within the Geography topic category, we should add the topics to the template, under topic codes such as "geo-fr", "geo-ca", etc. instead of having to add the categories to the pages manually. And we should remove geo-by-country cats for non-French-speaking countries, since those are never going to have more than a few
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Numberguy6 ( talk) 02:50, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
commune
is now using the supplemental data file {{
Expand French/topics}}, which afaicr, is the only such special token defined for any Expand language, but things may have changed since last I looked. If envisioned as a new overture to create subtemplates of existing token-categories that might spread across a lot of languages, then maybe updating/howto and table row would be better. At first blush, I might go with the former to start with, even if the ultimate goal is the latter.geo
has 18 subcats, the special topic commune
has
84! That definitely seems a lot more than what I remembered. In any case, would you propose to do something similar with that, with sub-subtopics for the communes, or is that a different situation? Or should we simply defer that, and do that in a separate edit request, or perhaps not at all?
Template:Expand French is permanently
protected from editing because it is a
heavily used or highly visible template. Substantial changes should first be proposed and discussed here on this page. If the proposal is uncontroversial or has been discussed and is supported by
consensus, editors may use {{
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documentation to add usage notes or
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Any contributor may edit the template's sandbox. This template does not have a testcases subpage. You can create the testcases subpage here. |
I'd like to:
{{Expand language}}
template.Category:Military articles needing translation from French Wikipedia does exist as a subcat of Category:Articles needing translation from French Wikipedia and this would help classification; with military precision it does seem to be used on many military history articles: search for "topic=mil" and await results. But that is not yet recognised by this template.
Certainly, passing the topic through to the underlying {{Expand language}}
template seems reasonable for the default switch; it would save the need to ask for further edits to the template if the categories are augmented.
This should not break anything, at worst something erroneously classified as "topic=mil" would end up in a subcategory of how it is currently categorized (and thus by inheritance still be a member of that category). Si Trew ( talk) 21:36, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
On the article Kahun Papyri, I have added Template:Expand German and Template:Expand French. While the German View link on "View a machine-translated version of the German article." works properly, the corresponding French View link does not. (I'm getting the error: The page you requested attempted to redirect to itself, which could cause an infinite loop. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_d'El-Lahoun)
Both languages have something substantial to add to the article, yet they are quite different from each other. In other words, there is something different to be gained from each of the languages. Thinking that the problem may stem from having two expand templates at the same time, I tried switching the order of templates, French first, then German second, but the problem remained with the French template, only. Trying to go to Google Translate directly and submitting https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_d'El-Lahoun gets me the same error. I'm not certain if the problem is with Google Translate itself, or more likely, the French Wikipedia server. While I'll attempt to translate the article myself, I thought someone should know about the problem. Hi-storian ( talk) 20:14, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
This tag should be at the bottom. There are tags that contain warnings about problems, such as poor formulations, lack of supporting references or questionable content. Such tags are important for the reader and should therefore be placed at the top. Other tags are more for administration of the improvements (editing) of the encyclopedia. These should not be placed at the top, where they disturb the reader. The tag most like this one is the stub. Such tags should be at the bottom of the article, as the stub tag is. This tag (Expand French) seems to normally be placed at the top. To repeat: This makes the encyclopedia less good than it would be with the tag at the bottom. -- Ettrig ( talk) 17:45, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
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Change the German example on this (and on all other foreign-language expansion templates to their respective languages) to French. 𝕎𝕚𝕜𝕚𝕎𝕒𝕣𝕣𝕚𝕠𝕣𝟡𝟡𝟙𝟡 ( talk) 12:53, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Content in this edit is translated from the existing German Wikipedia article at [[:de:Exact name of German article]]; see its history for attribution.
changed? The correct location to request that change is
Template:Expand language, the change for which is not obviously trivial and will require some more discussion prior to the edit request (specifically both a consensus generation discussion and a discussion as to proposed implementation). --
Izno (
talk) 13:38, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Change this... :
A model attribution edit summary (using German): Content in this edit is translated from the existing German Wikipedia article at [[:de:Exact name of German article]]; see its history for attribution.
...to this:
A model attribution edit summary: Content in this edit is translated from the existing French Wikipedia article at [[:fr:Exact name of German article]]; see its history for attribution.
...and so on for all the other foreign-language templates. 𝕎𝕚𝕜𝕚𝕎𝕒𝕣𝕣𝕚𝕠𝕣𝟡𝟡𝟙𝟡 ( talk) 12:17, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
In the third to last bullet there's a missing colon or "is" after "a model attribution edit summary". Danstronger ( talk) 13:33, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Template:Expand language has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. -- N8wilson 11:56, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Should include the standard aliases "cult" and "transp" for Culture and Transportation topics. Numberguy6 ( talk) 16:52, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Description of suggested change: Since there are 18 subcategories within the Geography topic category, we should add the topics to the template, under topic codes such as "geo-fr", "geo-ca", etc. instead of having to add the categories to the pages manually. And we should remove geo-by-country cats for non-French-speaking countries, since those are never going to have more than a few
Diff:
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Numberguy6 ( talk) 02:50, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
commune
is now using the supplemental data file {{
Expand French/topics}}, which afaicr, is the only such special token defined for any Expand language, but things may have changed since last I looked. If envisioned as a new overture to create subtemplates of existing token-categories that might spread across a lot of languages, then maybe updating/howto and table row would be better. At first blush, I might go with the former to start with, even if the ultimate goal is the latter.geo
has 18 subcats, the special topic commune
has
84! That definitely seems a lot more than what I remembered. In any case, would you propose to do something similar with that, with sub-subtopics for the communes, or is that a different situation? Or should we simply defer that, and do that in a separate edit request, or perhaps not at all?