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Calling attention to an RfC at Template talk:Cases in 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic#Mainland China to discuss if we should be consistent in defining "Mainland China" and which total we should be using. Thanks, United States Man ( talk) 02:38, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Do we really need to automatically archive discussions after only 36 hours of inactivity? The bulk of the discussions are edit requests that are fulfilled within hours and some of us are archiving them after roughly 24 hours if they were accepted. That should leave enough room for other topics requiring further discussion. -- MarioGom ( talk) 00:09, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I did search the archives, and had a difficult time finding it, although a part from the criteria (which I am not arguing for the removal of Northern Cyprus), I am just in support of adding a note for clarification. ChaoticTexan ( talk) 02:48, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please update San Marino confirmed cases count to 187, according to [1] 😷 garyCZEk 📢 ✍ {🧒👧👦🚲💻🚗🍣} 14:54, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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+2 cases for Bosnia and Herzegovina (total: 130) N1/CNN Avaz Klix.ba -- 5.43.82.5 ( talk) 14:46, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 says Guyana has 19 cases. I believe this website could still be considered reliable. Luke Kern Choi 5 ( talk) 05:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I think we are catching up quickly. With an incredible amount of daily edits, our data is no longer significantly lagging. For the first time this week, on 23 March, I noticed that we updated several countries way before than any other aggregate tracker. This happened, at least, with Germany, Japan, Norway or Spain. It is worth noting that whenever we were ahead of other aggregate trackers, we were forced to use reliable sources properly. Keep up the good work! -- MarioGom ( talk) 09:16, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Laos has recorded first two cases of Covid-19 in this link below https://m.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Laos-records-first-two-coronavirus-cases-Thai-Media-622110 James17 ( talk) 09:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Update the number of cases to 1125 on coronavirus 2020europe page also AnsuAnn ( talk) 07:59, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
This was brought up before (and has been archived), and the consensus seemed to be that totals should sum the figures in the table, not be imported from another source. Plainly this hasn’t happened. The sum of Cases, Deaths and Recoveries does not correspond to the totals given. Ptilinopus ( talk) 09:08, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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Update Israel to 1656 cases, 1 death, 49 recovered (see Johns Hopkins dashboard, Israel page, https://t.me/MOHreport, etc.) Eitan1989 ( talk) 15:32, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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Ukraine - confirmed cases rose from 84 to 97, according to https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2020/03/24/7244906/ (Already changed in the "2020 coronavirus pandemic in Ukraine" wiki-page) RomanKlasnyy ( talk) 15:02, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Iran latest CCF is 24,811 and death toll is 1,934, can anyone kindly amend (-: https://en.irna.ir/news/83726121/Iran-s-coronavirus-death-toll-hits-1-934 BlackSun2104 ( talk) 12:38, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Iran's CCF should have increased by now, it still remain unchanged, what is the reason for that ??🤔 BlackSun2104 ( talk) 13:24, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
"Northern Cyprus" is only recognized by Turkey, the international community does not give it validation. I understand the purpose of listing the region though, as the sources/reports of COVID-19 are not being reported by Cyrpus for the northern region.
"Northern Cyprus" should be clearly identified as a defacto state, or by stating "only recognized by Turkey". The other suggestion is that Northern Cyprus be joined with Cyprus, although I am in favor of the first option.
It is necessary for clarification, that Northern Cyrpus not be given any legitimacy as a seemingly existant territory. Akbhaza and other defacto states with only one country recognizing them are not listed. It is important that readers are presented with academic honesty. ChaoticTexan ( talk) 00:43, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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Turkey: Coronavirus death toll climbs to 44 Health minister announces 343 new cases, bringing tally to 1,872 State agency citation: Kara Aydin, Havva (2020-03-24). "Turkey: Coronavirus death toll climbs to 44". Anadolu Agency. Retrieved 2020-03-24. Canerguclu ( talk) 19:59, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I know it doesn't concern English Wikipedia, but I'm currently importing the numbers automatically with my bot. It used to match the numbers after | style="padding:0px 2px;"|
and put it in the formatnum so it will automatically show the Bangla numerals in Bangla Wikipedia (bn). However, recent format was changed to just a | sign, which would be difficult to match as it's just one sign. Is it possible to put the numbers in English Wikipedia within {{formatnum:12345|en}}
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Colombia: 378 cases Source: https://twitter.com/MinSaludCol/status/1242572459259371522 National Ministry of Health Juan C. S. H. ( talk) 23:33, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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Panama has 443 confirmed cases and 8 deaths. Source: https://www.tvn-2.com/nacionales/defunciones-contagiados-pandemia-COVID-19-Panama_0_5540445980.html 190.219.162.190 ( talk) 23:54, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi! Can we add a column of mortality rate (deaths / cases)? DRosenbach ( Talk | Contribs) 00:12, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
I have clarified the links so people don't think they're clicking on the country's regular article by putting (more info), per WP:EASTEREGG. I made the text small to minimise space, so it and still leaves plenty of room. But feel free to revert if I am missing something. Keiiri ( talk) 02:09, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
[[Subject X in Country Y|Country Y]]
from "Subject X". See e.g. the countries listed at
2016 Summer Olympics or
Eurovision_Song_Contest_2019. It's where I expect to taken, at least, though YMMV. Aside, see
WP:VPT#Template include size limit. Until that problem is solved, it's best not add any more bloat to any templates transcluded by
2019–20 coronavirus pandemic.
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Jamaica now has twenty five confirmed cases. [1]
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Please update San Marino death count to 21, according to official source: http://www.iss.sm/on-line/home/artCataggiornamenti-coronavirus.49004093.1.20.1.html 😷 garyCZEk 📢 ✍ {🧒👧👦🚲💻🚗🍣} 08:51, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please update Iran to 2,077 deaths, as per the already-cited article (2,206 is the number of new cases, and appears to have been inserted here in error). Eitan1989 ( talk) 12:48, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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Poland total cases 957 [2], 13 death in total [3] [4] -in that tweet Polish MON stated that we have 957/13 (total coronavirus positiv labconfirmed/total deaths) Natanieluz ( talk) 13:54, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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+74 new confirmed cases in Poland (total of 1031) [5] +1 death (14 tot) Natanieluz ( talk) 16:55, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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Hi. Colombia now reports 470 cases according to the Ministry of Health. Thanks. Source: https://twitter.com/MinSaludCol/status/1242883888344633345 Juan C. S. H. ( talk) 18:49, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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Turkey 26 recovered cases. [1] Ozkanyorukoglu ( talk) 19:31, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Germany 's CCF is now 37,323, please update accordingly. [1] BlackSun2104 ( talk) 19:40, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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Turkey numbers announced on 25 March 2020
Cases 2.433 New cases 561 Deaths 59 New deaths 15
Source: Minister of Health of the Republic of Turkey https://twitter.com/drfahrettinkoca/status/1242914433325817859 Ozkanyorukoglu ( talk) 20:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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Latvia: change 197 to 221 87.110.170.242 ( talk) 21:34, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Spain 's CCF is now 49,515, please update accordingly. https://www.rtve.es/noticias/20200325/mapa-del-coronavirus-espana/2004681.shtml BlackSun2104 ( talk) 22:37, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Why does the V.T.E. on the left top corner links to Navbar Collapsible when it should link to this article? Are there any reasons for it? Luke Kern Choi 5 ( talk) 00:52, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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Panama has 558 confirmed cases, 8 deaths and 2 recovered. Source: https://www.tvn-2.com/nacionales/personas-recuperadas-casos-COVID-Panama_0_5541195909.html 190.219.162.190 ( talk) 02:57, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, I want to update the data for the chart, in Vietnam's part. It has just been announced that Vietnam has 5 more cases, brings the total number of confirmed cases in 153 cases. If you as an admin still concern, this is the source, from an official newspaper in Vietnam (in English): https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/vietnam-confirms-five-new-covid-19-cases-4072818.html. Thank you Roadeditingonline ( talk) 11:40, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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New death In italy for 26Th march is 712, total death 8215. Agniv742101 ( talk) 20:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
In Firefox at least, sorting the table by any of the columns seems to overlay the notes (from below the table) over the top of the table. Confirmed this does not happen in Google Chrome. I will probably not have time to look into why, so I'm leaving this here in case someone has time to look/fix. Cheers — Jon ( talk) 04:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
I notice in footnotes that these two entities are excluded from the figures for Georgia. Do they in fact have any cases? If so, where are they? Either they should be added to Georgia, or they should be listed separately. But currently any such are falling between the cracks of RfC! Ptilinopus ( talk) 20:04, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
According to the ABC, 1 354 cases in total (as of 6:35pm AEST on Saturday, March 21, I suspect that this time is wrong. First of all daylight saving, and date vs publication date). https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-22/coronavirus-australia-live-updates-covid-19-latest-news-lockdown/12078506
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I think we need an additional column showing the fatality rate per country, at least for countries with 1000 cases or more. The differences in FRs are stark (some countries around 10%, others are 0%). This would be very informative.-- 27.104.208.183 ( talk) 16:53, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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Turkey's pandemic figures are updated every 11:00 pm. Correct figures are: 2433 infected, 55 dead Source:
https://twitter.com/drfahrettinkoca/status/1242914433325817859
Additionally, Isreal figures are up to date in its own article, yet requires update in this table 82.222.191.74 ( talk) 20:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Mali first cases 90.209.134.27 ( talk) 11:21, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Can you update the your references for Lebanon. Lebanon has only 3 references, you missed the reference to the first website "Lebanon Info Center". View technology section on 2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Lebanon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikicontrib20 ( talk • contribs) 12:39, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
UK's CCF is now 9529, please update accordingly. https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14 BlackSun2104 ( talk) 21:51, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
AHollender_(WMF) has provided a further proposal to simplify table presentation on mobile in portrait mode: Template talk:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic data/styles.css#Cleaning_up_the_table_for_mobile_web
Please consider to update the template styles accordingly Volker E. (WMF) ( talk) 21:53, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
This would help us understand what is the current status of the pandemic in every country and tell us which country have right/wrong measures. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bkrqpzef ( talk • contribs) 09:40, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Is it possible to update the table "2019–20 coronavirus pandemic by country and territory" with a new column like "confirmed deaths per million people". This will give a more comparable view of how effected the different contries are.
I know the map is showing this, but i would like to se the actual numbers and the possibility to sort. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.186.121.223 ( talk) 10:16, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I think we should remove the remark for Switzerland, that "there are more positive than confirmed cases", because this is true for all countries. It gives the impression that Switzerland does not test enough but Switzerland has one of the highest testing rates, while other countries like Ukraine or Hungary have a very low testing rate. Every country has unreported cases, some cases have no symptoms, some cases have them but get not tested. Tensorproduct ( talk) 12:59, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
As written in this article, Åland now has 5 confirmed cases and not 2: source. Raphaël Dunant ( talk) 08:20, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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Add a column for active cases to the "2019-20 coronavirus pandemic by country and territory" table where active cases is equal to cases - (deaths + recov) Jasoncross1357 ( talk) 07:32, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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There is no Republic of Northern Cyprus. This is not a country or an entity recognized by the UN. It should be noted as such on the list. 89.210.97.144 ( talk) 02:20, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Up until a few hours ago, Palestine was included on the table with 60 cases, 1 death and 16 recoveries. Now it is missing. The data are not included in Israel. There is no mention in the footnotes. There is no comment in the Talk page. Has a decision been taken? Or has a vandal been at work? Ptilinopus ( talk) 11:25, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please update San Marino data as follows: confirmed: 218, recovered: 5 according to official source: http://www.iss.sm/on-line/home/aggiornamenti-coronavirus/articolo49014173.html 😷 garyCZEk 📢 ✍ {🧒👧👦🚲💻🚗🍣} 14:05, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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Total number of cases in Luxembourg raises to 1453 (+120 ) and deaths to 9 (+1) https://today.rtl.lu/news/luxembourg/a/1490704.html Wimmiden ( talk) 16:43, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
The total global CCF is incorrect, please correct accordingly. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 BlackSun2104 ( talk) 22:43, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
For the United States row of this template, it is using two non-official trackers to determine the figures. Both of these trackers do not match what the CDC nor what Johns Hopkins University are reporting. Why are we even using these unofficial numbers when other Countries have the official trackers in their rows? — Mr Xaero ☎️ 02:18, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Germany's CCF had shot up to 41,414, please correct and amend accordingly. 119.74.163.85 ( talk) 15:44, 26 March 2020 (UTC) https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/corona-virus-karte-infektionen-deutschland-weltweit/
Spain's CCF has risen again to 57,786, please correct accordingly. https://www.rtve.es/noticias/20200326/mapa-del-coronavirus-espana/2004681.shtml BlackSun2104 ( talk) 23:59, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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Panama has 674 confirmed cases and 9 deaths. Source: https://www.telemetro.com/nacionales/2020/03/26/panama-registra-9-fallecidos-por-covid-19-y-acumula-674-casos-confirmados/2719716.html 190.219.162.190 ( talk) 23:55, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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Honduras has 68 cases of coronavirus plus one of them died today. so 67 active and 1 dead https://www.laprensa.hn/especiales/coronavirus/1367517-410/honduras-registra-16-nuevos-casos-coronavirus-aumentan-67-contagiados Allancalderini12 ( talk) 00:50, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
In the chart, which lists all countries and their number of Cases, Deaths and Recoveries. Should we add a 4th column which shows Active Cases. I am assuming Cases just mean a historic count of all the people who were infected at one point. Should we not have a column which shows Active Cases which would be (Cases - Recoveries). That way we readers can know how many current cases there are in each country. Mercenary2k ( talk) 15:12, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
earlier we decided not to do this as it fattened up the table. The discussions will be somewhere in the archive. Another reason is that it is harder to maintain. -- Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 05:47, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Change the reference link for Australian cases to the ABC's running count that is updated regularly and is solely for case numbers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704 JMonkey2006 ( talk) 06:19, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please update San Marino counts as follows: recovered: 6 confirmed: 223 official source: http://www.iss.sm/on-line/home/articolo49014186.html 😷 garyCZEk 📢 ✍ {🧒👧👦🚲💻🚗🍣} 13:44, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Singapore's cases should stand at 732 as at 27 March 2020 nighttime, and recovery cases at 183. Please see: https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/pressroom/press-releases/annex---summary-of-confirmed-cases-(27-march-2020).pdf 111.65.36.29 ( talk) 14:13, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi MarioGom. I advise on the column as it provides more clarity. Thank you and hope you are well Hari147 ( talk) 15:16, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Serial numbers are required to know the standing of each country wrt infections SAI SUMANTH 20:37, 27 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saisumanth ( talk • contribs)
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I would like to update the total number of cases for Canada, the current number is using the wrong number from the current source.
The number should be changed to 4043, the previous 3763 number includes recovered people, which is not how it is recorded for all the other countries.
source: https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/health/coronavirus/tracking-every-case-of-covid-19-in-canada-1.4852102 YipB ( talk) 14:37, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Add this to Spain (similar to Italy).
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Change UK cases to 14,579 81.174.128.143 ( talk) 15:32, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Turkey's coronavirus death toll rises to 92, the total number of patients 5,698, 42 patients have recovered so far. https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkeys-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-to-92-with-2-069-new-cases-153353 - Caner Guclu talk 17:10, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Update UK cases, deaths recoveries etc. in the table of the pandemic numbers by country. 150.143.56.191 ( talk) 17:13, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
UK's CCF has remain unchanged for the last 24hrs, can anyone please amend asap. BlackSun2104 ( talk) 20:57, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Panama has 786 confirmed cases and 14 deaths. Source: https://www.tvn-2.com/nacionales/Van-pacientes-COVID-19-Panama_0_5542695764.html 190.219.162.190 ( talk) 23:33, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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The cases for New Zealand are as follows
Reference: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/412818/coronavirus-83-new-cases-in-new-zealand-two-patients-in-intensive-care Maticulous ( talk) 00:57, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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Honduras has confirmed 27 new cases for a total of 95. 1 of them is dead and 4 are in ICU. https://www.laprensa.hn/especiales/coronavirus/1367729-410/reportan-27-nuevos-casos-covid-19-honduras-95-contagiados-total Allancalderini12 ( talk) 01:19, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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There is a note for Italy explaining that the country is testing only at-risk people since 27th February. Actually in Spain, due to low resource, it has been quite the same from the beginning. I think we should add a note, with this source, for example. Paolotacchi ( talk) 08:52, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Spain Is actually not being able to test all the Citizens with cases. the lack of test units, is one of the reasons. Also the fact that 650.000 tests bought from china are not working properly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alnavasa ( talk • contribs) 10:58, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Spain's figure should have been altered by now. BlackSun2104 ( talk) 03:07, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
UK's CCF is now 14,453, please update accordingly. https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14
UK's CCF remain unchanged, is there any explanation for that? https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14 119.74.163.85 ( talk) 18:31, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
UK figures should be 14,743, not more than 11,000, that includes OTs, just copy the figure and paste it. The clue is already in JHU website. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 BlackSun2104 ( talk) 23:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Change the current amount of coronavirus cases for the United Arab Emirates from 333 to 405, and recovery from 52 to 55.
(Here is the source.)
Global amount of cases would be from 577,660 to 577,732. Global recovery is from 130,670 to 130,673.
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This is Jayanika Chandrapriya from Sri Lanka. I am working as a Front End developer for a multinational SaaS company.
I am a keen on this Covid-19 outbreak since it's beginning. Please let me update my country's information in this table. I hereby confirm that neither of my updates will be unconfirmed by the government news authorities. Jayanika1997 ( talk) 15:05, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
According to official sources, UK's CCF as of 28th March is 17,089 and death toll is 1,019 respectively, please update accordingly. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public BlackSun2104 ( talk) 15:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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2 more deaths in Honduras for a total 3.
https://www.diez.hn/coronavirus/1367912-441/dos-muertos-coronavirus-honduras-pacientes-villanueva-suman-tres-covid-honduras Allancalderini12 ( talk) 18:55, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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The total number of cases: 7402, Death toll : 108, Recovered: 70 [1] --- Caner Guclu talk 17:18, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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Panama has 901 confirmed cases, 17 deaths and 4 recovered. Source: https://www.tvn-2.com/nacionales/Coronavirus-en-Panama-casos-COVID-19-salud-Ministerio-Salud-Minsa_0_5543445653.html 190.219.162.190 ( talk) 00:12, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
The number of confirmed cases is a misleading metric for comparison among nations, due to the hugely varying scale of testing taking place. For example, South Korea does broad testing and has probably identified most cases, while Italy says the true number of cases is likely to be 10x what has been identified. Countries are increasingly limiting testing to severe cases or high-risk individuals when they become overwhelmed by the speed of the spread. I suggest that it would make more sense to switch the default sort to deaths, since that is the more reliable number for comparing the severity of the outbreak among nations. 92.51.253.124 ( talk) 01:11, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Support Sorting by deaths by default. Deaths can be less easily hidden than confirmed cases. That said nobody trusts the mainland chinese figures or the iranian ones. The French have admitted that only those dying in hospitals have so far been counted. Those dying elsewhere including in maisons de retraite are not counted and the Germans don't test the deceased. As long as the WHO does not impose uniformity in counting, these figures are less and less trustworthy and are meaningless when it comes to making comparisons Manish2542 ( talk) 17:53, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
In many countries in Europe, such as Italy, Spain and France, healthcare systems are totally overwhelmed by cases and forced to limit testing only to the most serious cases and the most exposed workers [9]. On the contrary, countries such as South Korea or Germany have tested at a very large scale, even people with very mild symptoms or no at all [10].
This generates a significant bias on the "confirmed cases" metric, as obviously you need to be tested in order to be confirmed, which makes it totally fallacious to judge the maturity of the epidemics in each country. Unfortunately at this stage, and considering the proportions of the crisis, the number of deaths seem to be a much more accurate metric, despite having its own bias as well. Hence why it would make a lot more sense to me to use it as the default value to rank countries. Metropolitan ( talk) 20:38, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
The Indian numbers are sourced from the ministry of health and family welfare (MoHFW) but the never match the MoHFW. Either we should change the source or be using their numbers. I see on indian websites that this is a consistent problem. Like on covidindia.org , they report non govt sources and MoHFW cases separately. Also I think the numbers are possible wrong. It is showing 24 deaths. When I can't find a news source more than 20 Gegu0284 ( talk) 18:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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Recover] rate % column ! 178.148.158.198 ( talk) 07:49, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
In the same category of limited recognition or unlimited unrecognition there is Kurdistan. It has 128 cases. [13] Does anyone know if its cases are included in other countries' tallies? Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 10:52, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please update the row for Syria to reflect the recent death case. Reference: https://sana.sy/en/?p=189095 tGDA ( talk) 15:07, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please update San Marino counts according to official source at http://www.iss.sm/on-line/home/aggiornamenti-coronavirus/articolo49014189.html as follows: 229 confirmed, 24 deaths, 12 recovered. 😷 garyCZEk 📢 ✍ {🧒👧👦🚲💻🚗🍣} 14:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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Best, -- MarioGom ( talk) 16:09, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
I notice that in the 2020 Coronavirus Pandemic in the United States, Section Statistics, Table "Current Number of Non-Repatriated Cases by State", that there are now 2 cases in the Northern Mariana Islands, with sources. They are already included in the US total, and should be noted in the US territories note below the table (at least until the RfC is finalised). Ptilinopus ( talk) 13:06, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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Confirmed cases: 9217 [1], Death: 131 [1], Recovered: 105 [2] --- Caner Guclu talk 16:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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Colombia's National Ministry of Health just reported 702 total cases and 10 deaths. Please update. Source: https://twitter.com/MinSaludCol/status/1244342063791050760 Juan C. S. H. ( talk) 19:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
"Includes clinically diagnosed cases and deaths from 12 February 2020 and onwards in the province of Hubei."
The WHO reported in Situation Report 24 [1] Chinese reporting "clinically diagnosed cases in addition to laboratory-confirmed cases" in relation to Hubei, as per the quoted footnote. However in Situation Report 31, [2] WHO cited China's revised guidance [3] on case classification that it was going back to only laboratory confirmed cases. As such, given the table only shows the latest cumulative figures the footnote should be removed. -- KTC ( talk) 21:43, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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I think the number of test performed should be included in the table. This will give us a better understanding of the scenario. A country that has tested very few and got lower number infected persons can't be equally measured with a country that has tested in wide number and got lower number. -- Rossi101 ( talk) 09:24, 27 March 2020 (UTC)Rossi101
In light of providing more information to readers as well as a form of encouragement, might I suggest for an extra column to be added for the remaining cases? I had added it already but it was abruptly deleted by a user. Thanks Hari147 ( talk) 15:15, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Hari147: Please, do not add new columns ( [15]) without discussion. Current informal consensus is not adding any new column. -- MarioGom ( talk) 15:10, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Please add serial numbers or ranking to the table depicting the number of Covid-19 cases country wise SAI SUMANTH 20:36, 27 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saisumanth ( talk • contribs)
Please break it down according to each cases' respective territory (ie mainland UK, any of the BOTs, etc.) Cheers. RayDeeUx ( talk) 23:40, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Good job.
I would like to suggest to show information about the number of recovered people. Alternatively, to provide information on total cases (sickness + recovery + death)
Chris 77.114.138.70 ( talk) 16:14, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Recov.) is the number of recovered people. The second column (
Cases) is the total number of cases, including recovered and dead. -- MarioGom ( talk) 16:33, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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Panama has 989 confirmed cases and 24 deaths. Source: https://www.laestrella.com.pa/nacional/200329/panama-suma-24-muertos-989-contagiados-covid-19 190.219.162.190 ( talk) 23:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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Honduras has confirmed the third death, and has confirm 29 new cases for a total of 139. https://www.laprensa.hn/honduras/1368232-410/honduras-noticias-coronavirus-salud-contagios-muertos Allancalderini12 ( talk) 03:03, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
The UK entry in the table specifies in the notes below, that it includes the numbers for the territories listed in the notes. It does not. The current figure of 19,522 cases is specified in 2020 coronavirus pandemic in the United Kingdom in section Timeline, Graph "COVID-19 cases in the United Kingdom" as "Figures do not include the cases from British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies.". Thus all the data for territories listed in the notes must either be added to this figure, or listed separately in the table. Ptilinopus ( talk) 00:57, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
This is an ongoing issue, thus I am re-proposing this RfC. We need to settle the countries/territories/dependencies issue settled once for all.
Are territories and dependencies (full list from
List of countries and dependencies by population: Hong Kong, Puerto Rico, Macau, New Caledonia, French Polynesia, Guam, Curaçao, Aruba, Jersey, U.S. Virgin Islands, Isle of Man, Cayman Islands, Bermuda, Guernsey, American Samoa, Greenland, Northern Mariana Islands, Faroe Islands, Turks and Caicos Islands, Sint Maarten, Saint Martin, Gibraltar, British Virgin Islands, Åland Islands, Cook Islands, Anguilla, Wallis and Futuna, Saint Barthélemy, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Saint Helena, Ascension
and Tristan da Cunha, Montserrat, Falkland Islands, Christmas Island, Norfolk Island, Niue, Tokelau, Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Pitcairn Islands) as well as scarcely or not universally recognised countries (Taiwan, Kosovo, Western Sahara, Transnistria, Northern Cyprus, Abkhazia, Artsakh, South Ossetia) to be included in their respective countries' counts or not?
As of now, two dependent territories (namely Hong Kong and Macau, so that China is referred to as "China (mainland)"), along with scarcely or not universally recognised countries are listes separately from their respective countries, others are not. The count is made more complicate by the fact that most sources (notably including
Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by Johns Hopkins CSSE and
Coronavirus Update - Worldometer) list all dependencies separately.
Please, have your say! --
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Best regards, Pktlaurence ( talk) 19:06, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Furthermore, if you look closely, you should see I'm agreeing with you, but just pointing out a detail that makes these issues different. Both France and the Netherlands have two categories of overseas land; that which is technically part of the country and governed like anything else of the country, and that which is a territory and not subject to the main national government. In the first category, that would involve Bonaire, Sint Eustatius, Saba, French Guiana and Guadeloupe, etc. In the second category, that would include Aruba, Curacao, Sint Maarten, French Polynesia, Wallis and Futuna, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, etc. These are different issues. We have to decide if we include none and package them all into the sovereign powers, only the second category, or both the first and second category. It is somewhat annoying that a new discussion was made while this was still in progress.— Naddruf ( talk ~ contribs) 18:41, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
When are we gonna bloody implement those changes then? Since we're already having an overwhelming support here. Pktlaurence ( talk) 11:39, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
split all dependenciesand 2)
split dependencies to the extent that official sources report separately. Even the implementation details of both positions are not clear to me. -- MarioGom ( talk) 17:17, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
split all dependencies/territories/entities(multiple variations), others suggested following a scheme like List of countries and dependencies by population which does not split Guadaloupe or Martinique, Heitordp made a fairly detailed proposal with some specifics... -- MarioGom ( talk) 18:11, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Some people said that we should use a "universal consistency" regarding which territories to list separately, but Wikipedia doesn't have one. The List of countries and dependencies by population, List of countries and dependencies by area, Dependent territory and ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 are all slightly different. They all agree that dependencies should be listed separately from their sovereign countries, but what exactly counts as a dependency varies. For example: the French overseas regions are listed separately in ISO but not in the lists by area or population (which claim to be based on ISO); Akrotiri and Dhekelia is not in ISO or the list by population but is in the list by area; Bonaire, Saba and Sint Eustatius compose one entry in ISO, three entries in the list by area, and are only included in the Netherlands in the list by population.
I think that we are free to define which dependencies to split depending on the purpose or the article. For example, the List of circulating currencies implicitly includes the French overseas regions (and its collectivities in the Americas) in France because they all use the euro, but splits Bonaire, Saba and Sint Eustatius from the Netherlands because they use the US dollar, and it even splits Alderney from Guernsey. Even this coronavirus table has an unusual deviation from normal lists of countries by listing a ship.
Here the purpose is to show the geographic distribution of the disease, so I think that the criteria should be what the name of the country is commonly understood to include, its distance to the dependency, and how the sources for the number of cases list them. Below is a table of all dependencies that had cases so far. Please add a row to mark your suggestion on how to list each one, and we can change it multiple times until we reach a consensus. A dash means listed separately. Don't take my suggestion as a fixed opinion, I'm totally open to change it so we can reach a consensus. In the meantime, we could at least split the dependencies that we already agree with.
Justification for my suggestion: Worldometers seems to have corrected its US total, now including only states and DC, and keeping US territories separate. The French health page shows a number for metropolitan France and for each overseas region, Saint Barthélemy and Saint Martin. The numbers reported by Cyprus include Akrotiri and Dhekelia. [19] The Danish health page shows cases for each territory separately. The Finnish health page only shows a total for the whole country. All other dependencies are reported by separate sources. Heitordp ( talk) 23:38, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I found an obstacle to split the territories. Several sources provide the number of cases, but only JHU and Worldometers seem to provide the number of recoveries. JHU combines all territories with the respective countries, and Worldometers is inconsistent, for example showing the number for France including all overseas regions and also listing them separately, and sometimes doing that for the US too. It takes way too much time to figure out the number of cases, deaths and recoveries in all territories and subtract them from the country. And since the numbers are constantly changing, the effort becomes a boulder of Sisyphus. It would be nice to use the WHO situation reports, which list almost all territories separately and get updated just once a day at the same time with all countries. They worked very well during the Ebola epidemics. But they don't show the number of recoveries, and I suppose that people want to see that information here.
I'd also like to mention that I find this template a horrible mess. There are way too many sources, conflicting with each other, people are making edits almost every minute, the sums are not getting updated, and the wiki code is almost unintelligible with lengthy comments and nested templates. I tried to test splitting some territories (just in a preview) and couldn't get anywhere, wasting too much time with calculations to harmonize multiple sources and getting interrupted by the avalanche of edits from other users.
If possible, I'd like to extend the scope of this RfC to radically simplify this template. First, use only one source for everything and just copy the numbers from there exactly into the table. Individual sources from each country may be more up to date but everything is going to get changed after a few hours anyway. So use either JHU, which shows recoveries but combines the territories, or WHO, which splits territories but doesn't show recoveries. It would be great if someone found a better source but for now there doesn't seem to be one. We'd have to make a choice.
Second, remove all the junk code. Can we just make each row like this? {{flag|country}} || 123 || 4 || 56.
Third, after this pandemic is all over (hopefully soon) and the numbers stop changing, we can calmly calculate the numbers once and finally split all territories. Heitordp ( talk) 17:34, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Oppose the British privilege of having three miniscule personal properties of her holy imperial magnificent royal highness listed individually and quite lost as to why the Diamond Princess is still being listed here as all the persons on board have disembarked and are being double counted in the national tallies of the countries that have recuperated them Manish2542 ( talk) 17:47, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
dependency | HK | MO | PR | VI | GU | GF | GP | MQ | RE | YT | BL | MF | NC | PF | Ak/Dh | BM | KY | GI | MS | TC | GG | JE | IM | AW | CW | SX | FO | GL | AX |
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currently | - | - | US | US | US | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | GB CY | GB | GB | GB | GB | GB | - | - | - | NL | NL | NL | DK | DK | FI |
Johns Hopkins | CN | CN | US | US | US | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | ? | GB | GB | GB | GB | ? | GB | GB | GB | NL | NL | NL | DK | DK | ? |
WHO | CN | CN | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ? | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ? |
ECDC ( [21], [22]) | CN | CN | US? | - | - | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | - | - | ? | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ? |
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RandomIntrigue | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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Formulaonewiki | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | - | - | - | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
Checco | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
-- MarioGom ( talk) 09:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)There is a strong consensus on splitting all autonomous territories and dependencies with some disagreements on the criteria to be followed. Some territories were explicitly agreed to be split:
- Special administrative regions of China (Hong Kong, Macau)
- Unincorporated territories of the United States (explicitly cited: Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam)
- Overseas France (explicitly cited: Guadeloupe, French Guiana, Martinique, Réunion, Mayotte, French Polynesia, Saint Martin, Saint Barthélemy, New Caledonia)
- British Overseas Territories (explicitly cited: Akrotiri and Dhekelia, Bermuda, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar, Montserrat, Turks and Caicos Islands)
- Crown dependencies (explicitly cited: Guernsey, Jersey, Isle of Man)
- Constituent countries of the Kingdom of the Netherlands (Aruba, Curaçao, Sint Maarten)
- Autonomous territories of the Kingdom of Denmark (Faroe Islands, Greenland)
- Autonomous regions of Finland (Åland Islands)
Availability of reliable sources ( WP:RS) is a prerequisite for any split. Reliable sources are believed to exist for all territories that were explicitly agreed.
Everything in the title Manish2542 ( talk) 18:20, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Pktlaurence: Northern Cyprus is not unrecognised. It is partially unrecognised such as Taiwan, Kosovo, Palestine so on... It is not comparable with Transnistria. Either we only include UN-states, or stop removing Northern Cyprus, which already has more cases then several countries. Beshogur ( talk) 16:35, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Beshogur: It IS comparable with Transnistria indeed. Both are puppet states planted by a regional power, and both ONLY recognised by their overlord. Pktlaurence ( talk) 16:39, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Wow, I'm appalled that you cant see the fact that its actually he who made an empty ad hominem attack without any meaningful contents against me first. And I'm even more appalled that you expect talk page discussions to be empty without meaningful contents. So much for a 'good editor' like you, no wonder you keep reverting my edits. Pktlaurence ( talk) 16:56, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Albertoleoncio: my point is, Transnistria gets incorporated. NC is in a similar situation of Transnistria and it should be getting the same treatment like it...the people in this wiki are just strange enough that they always breaks the principle of universal consistency so blatantly. Amd, well, NC is not a country, it is an unrecognised puppet state like Transnistria. Maybe you think i have biases, but i think take off the word 'puppet' everybody will agree to this statement. Pktlaurence ( talk) 16:59, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
People, lets focus a little bit. What the core sources says? They are joined or separeted? Albertoleoncio ( talk) 17:13, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
I think all unrecognized states, dependencies, etc, should use italics. The World Health Organization does report on these territories separately, as discussed above, but it does so making a clear distinction. -- MarioGom ( talk) 23:23, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Can someone add it if possible. I tried it but it doesn't work. Thanks in advance. Beshogur ( talk) 11:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks to
User:MarioGom for closing the RfC.
Two questions:
Cheers, -- Checco ( talk) 09:24, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
The outcome is almost fully implemented. The only exception is Akrotiri and Dhekelia, which is included in Cyprus' figures. I have found no up-to-date source that reliably reports Akrotiri and Dhekelia cases in a way that it can be consistently subtracted from Cyprus totals. However, at least it is not double counted both in the United Kingdom and Cyprus anymore. If anyone finds a source that reports both Cyprus total and Akrotiri and Dhekelia figures at the same point in time, feel free to split it. I'm reluctant to subtract amounts when the total (Cyprus including Ak/Dh) and Ak/Dh figures correspond to different days. -- MarioGom ( talk) 16:08, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
France's official map (
[30]) (thanks
Heitordp) provides per-region breakdown of deaths and "recoveries" (hospital discharges, indicator used as "recoveries" by JHU and other sources). However, as of 26 March, they stopped reporting confirmed cases (cas confirmés
) per region. Apparently they decided to replace with another indicator soon (Un nouvel indicateur sera bientôt proposé.
) They still provide confirmed cases at national level, but for some reasons they decided to stop publishing it per region. Does anyone know if they still publish it elsewhere other than WHO Situation Reports? --
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Calling attention to an RfC at Template talk:Cases in 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic#Mainland China to discuss if we should be consistent in defining "Mainland China" and which total we should be using. Thanks, United States Man ( talk) 02:38, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Do we really need to automatically archive discussions after only 36 hours of inactivity? The bulk of the discussions are edit requests that are fulfilled within hours and some of us are archiving them after roughly 24 hours if they were accepted. That should leave enough room for other topics requiring further discussion. -- MarioGom ( talk) 00:09, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I did search the archives, and had a difficult time finding it, although a part from the criteria (which I am not arguing for the removal of Northern Cyprus), I am just in support of adding a note for clarification. ChaoticTexan ( talk) 02:48, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please update San Marino confirmed cases count to 187, according to [1] 😷 garyCZEk 📢 ✍ {🧒👧👦🚲💻🚗🍣} 14:54, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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+2 cases for Bosnia and Herzegovina (total: 130) N1/CNN Avaz Klix.ba -- 5.43.82.5 ( talk) 14:46, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 says Guyana has 19 cases. I believe this website could still be considered reliable. Luke Kern Choi 5 ( talk) 05:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I think we are catching up quickly. With an incredible amount of daily edits, our data is no longer significantly lagging. For the first time this week, on 23 March, I noticed that we updated several countries way before than any other aggregate tracker. This happened, at least, with Germany, Japan, Norway or Spain. It is worth noting that whenever we were ahead of other aggregate trackers, we were forced to use reliable sources properly. Keep up the good work! -- MarioGom ( talk) 09:16, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Laos has recorded first two cases of Covid-19 in this link below https://m.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Laos-records-first-two-coronavirus-cases-Thai-Media-622110 James17 ( talk) 09:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Update the number of cases to 1125 on coronavirus 2020europe page also AnsuAnn ( talk) 07:59, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
This was brought up before (and has been archived), and the consensus seemed to be that totals should sum the figures in the table, not be imported from another source. Plainly this hasn’t happened. The sum of Cases, Deaths and Recoveries does not correspond to the totals given. Ptilinopus ( talk) 09:08, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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Update Israel to 1656 cases, 1 death, 49 recovered (see Johns Hopkins dashboard, Israel page, https://t.me/MOHreport, etc.) Eitan1989 ( talk) 15:32, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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Ukraine - confirmed cases rose from 84 to 97, according to https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2020/03/24/7244906/ (Already changed in the "2020 coronavirus pandemic in Ukraine" wiki-page) RomanKlasnyy ( talk) 15:02, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Iran latest CCF is 24,811 and death toll is 1,934, can anyone kindly amend (-: https://en.irna.ir/news/83726121/Iran-s-coronavirus-death-toll-hits-1-934 BlackSun2104 ( talk) 12:38, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Iran's CCF should have increased by now, it still remain unchanged, what is the reason for that ??🤔 BlackSun2104 ( talk) 13:24, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
"Northern Cyprus" is only recognized by Turkey, the international community does not give it validation. I understand the purpose of listing the region though, as the sources/reports of COVID-19 are not being reported by Cyrpus for the northern region.
"Northern Cyprus" should be clearly identified as a defacto state, or by stating "only recognized by Turkey". The other suggestion is that Northern Cyprus be joined with Cyprus, although I am in favor of the first option.
It is necessary for clarification, that Northern Cyrpus not be given any legitimacy as a seemingly existant territory. Akbhaza and other defacto states with only one country recognizing them are not listed. It is important that readers are presented with academic honesty. ChaoticTexan ( talk) 00:43, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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Turkey: Coronavirus death toll climbs to 44 Health minister announces 343 new cases, bringing tally to 1,872 State agency citation: Kara Aydin, Havva (2020-03-24). "Turkey: Coronavirus death toll climbs to 44". Anadolu Agency. Retrieved 2020-03-24. Canerguclu ( talk) 19:59, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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Colombia: 378 cases Source: https://twitter.com/MinSaludCol/status/1242572459259371522 National Ministry of Health Juan C. S. H. ( talk) 23:33, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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Panama has 443 confirmed cases and 8 deaths. Source: https://www.tvn-2.com/nacionales/defunciones-contagiados-pandemia-COVID-19-Panama_0_5540445980.html 190.219.162.190 ( talk) 23:54, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi! Can we add a column of mortality rate (deaths / cases)? DRosenbach ( Talk | Contribs) 00:12, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
I have clarified the links so people don't think they're clicking on the country's regular article by putting (more info), per WP:EASTEREGG. I made the text small to minimise space, so it and still leaves plenty of room. But feel free to revert if I am missing something. Keiiri ( talk) 02:09, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
[[Subject X in Country Y|Country Y]]
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Jamaica now has twenty five confirmed cases. [1]
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Please update San Marino death count to 21, according to official source: http://www.iss.sm/on-line/home/artCataggiornamenti-coronavirus.49004093.1.20.1.html 😷 garyCZEk 📢 ✍ {🧒👧👦🚲💻🚗🍣} 08:51, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please update Iran to 2,077 deaths, as per the already-cited article (2,206 is the number of new cases, and appears to have been inserted here in error). Eitan1989 ( talk) 12:48, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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Poland total cases 957 [2], 13 death in total [3] [4] -in that tweet Polish MON stated that we have 957/13 (total coronavirus positiv labconfirmed/total deaths) Natanieluz ( talk) 13:54, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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+74 new confirmed cases in Poland (total of 1031) [5] +1 death (14 tot) Natanieluz ( talk) 16:55, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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Hi. Colombia now reports 470 cases according to the Ministry of Health. Thanks. Source: https://twitter.com/MinSaludCol/status/1242883888344633345 Juan C. S. H. ( talk) 18:49, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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Turkey 26 recovered cases. [1] Ozkanyorukoglu ( talk) 19:31, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Germany 's CCF is now 37,323, please update accordingly. [1] BlackSun2104 ( talk) 19:40, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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Turkey numbers announced on 25 March 2020
Cases 2.433 New cases 561 Deaths 59 New deaths 15
Source: Minister of Health of the Republic of Turkey https://twitter.com/drfahrettinkoca/status/1242914433325817859 Ozkanyorukoglu ( talk) 20:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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Latvia: change 197 to 221 87.110.170.242 ( talk) 21:34, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Spain 's CCF is now 49,515, please update accordingly. https://www.rtve.es/noticias/20200325/mapa-del-coronavirus-espana/2004681.shtml BlackSun2104 ( talk) 22:37, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Why does the V.T.E. on the left top corner links to Navbar Collapsible when it should link to this article? Are there any reasons for it? Luke Kern Choi 5 ( talk) 00:52, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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Panama has 558 confirmed cases, 8 deaths and 2 recovered. Source: https://www.tvn-2.com/nacionales/personas-recuperadas-casos-COVID-Panama_0_5541195909.html 190.219.162.190 ( talk) 02:57, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, I want to update the data for the chart, in Vietnam's part. It has just been announced that Vietnam has 5 more cases, brings the total number of confirmed cases in 153 cases. If you as an admin still concern, this is the source, from an official newspaper in Vietnam (in English): https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/vietnam-confirms-five-new-covid-19-cases-4072818.html. Thank you Roadeditingonline ( talk) 11:40, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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New death In italy for 26Th march is 712, total death 8215. Agniv742101 ( talk) 20:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
In Firefox at least, sorting the table by any of the columns seems to overlay the notes (from below the table) over the top of the table. Confirmed this does not happen in Google Chrome. I will probably not have time to look into why, so I'm leaving this here in case someone has time to look/fix. Cheers — Jon ( talk) 04:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
I notice in footnotes that these two entities are excluded from the figures for Georgia. Do they in fact have any cases? If so, where are they? Either they should be added to Georgia, or they should be listed separately. But currently any such are falling between the cracks of RfC! Ptilinopus ( talk) 20:04, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
According to the ABC, 1 354 cases in total (as of 6:35pm AEST on Saturday, March 21, I suspect that this time is wrong. First of all daylight saving, and date vs publication date). https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-22/coronavirus-australia-live-updates-covid-19-latest-news-lockdown/12078506
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I think we need an additional column showing the fatality rate per country, at least for countries with 1000 cases or more. The differences in FRs are stark (some countries around 10%, others are 0%). This would be very informative.-- 27.104.208.183 ( talk) 16:53, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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Turkey's pandemic figures are updated every 11:00 pm. Correct figures are: 2433 infected, 55 dead Source:
https://twitter.com/drfahrettinkoca/status/1242914433325817859
Additionally, Isreal figures are up to date in its own article, yet requires update in this table 82.222.191.74 ( talk) 20:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Mali first cases 90.209.134.27 ( talk) 11:21, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Can you update the your references for Lebanon. Lebanon has only 3 references, you missed the reference to the first website "Lebanon Info Center". View technology section on 2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Lebanon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikicontrib20 ( talk • contribs) 12:39, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
UK's CCF is now 9529, please update accordingly. https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14 BlackSun2104 ( talk) 21:51, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
AHollender_(WMF) has provided a further proposal to simplify table presentation on mobile in portrait mode: Template talk:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic data/styles.css#Cleaning_up_the_table_for_mobile_web
Please consider to update the template styles accordingly Volker E. (WMF) ( talk) 21:53, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
This would help us understand what is the current status of the pandemic in every country and tell us which country have right/wrong measures. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bkrqpzef ( talk • contribs) 09:40, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Is it possible to update the table "2019–20 coronavirus pandemic by country and territory" with a new column like "confirmed deaths per million people". This will give a more comparable view of how effected the different contries are.
I know the map is showing this, but i would like to se the actual numbers and the possibility to sort. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.186.121.223 ( talk) 10:16, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I think we should remove the remark for Switzerland, that "there are more positive than confirmed cases", because this is true for all countries. It gives the impression that Switzerland does not test enough but Switzerland has one of the highest testing rates, while other countries like Ukraine or Hungary have a very low testing rate. Every country has unreported cases, some cases have no symptoms, some cases have them but get not tested. Tensorproduct ( talk) 12:59, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
As written in this article, Åland now has 5 confirmed cases and not 2: source. Raphaël Dunant ( talk) 08:20, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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Add a column for active cases to the "2019-20 coronavirus pandemic by country and territory" table where active cases is equal to cases - (deaths + recov) Jasoncross1357 ( talk) 07:32, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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There is no Republic of Northern Cyprus. This is not a country or an entity recognized by the UN. It should be noted as such on the list. 89.210.97.144 ( talk) 02:20, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Up until a few hours ago, Palestine was included on the table with 60 cases, 1 death and 16 recoveries. Now it is missing. The data are not included in Israel. There is no mention in the footnotes. There is no comment in the Talk page. Has a decision been taken? Or has a vandal been at work? Ptilinopus ( talk) 11:25, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please update San Marino data as follows: confirmed: 218, recovered: 5 according to official source: http://www.iss.sm/on-line/home/aggiornamenti-coronavirus/articolo49014173.html 😷 garyCZEk 📢 ✍ {🧒👧👦🚲💻🚗🍣} 14:05, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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Total number of cases in Luxembourg raises to 1453 (+120 ) and deaths to 9 (+1) https://today.rtl.lu/news/luxembourg/a/1490704.html Wimmiden ( talk) 16:43, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
The total global CCF is incorrect, please correct accordingly. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 BlackSun2104 ( talk) 22:43, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
For the United States row of this template, it is using two non-official trackers to determine the figures. Both of these trackers do not match what the CDC nor what Johns Hopkins University are reporting. Why are we even using these unofficial numbers when other Countries have the official trackers in their rows? — Mr Xaero ☎️ 02:18, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Germany's CCF had shot up to 41,414, please correct and amend accordingly. 119.74.163.85 ( talk) 15:44, 26 March 2020 (UTC) https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/corona-virus-karte-infektionen-deutschland-weltweit/
Spain's CCF has risen again to 57,786, please correct accordingly. https://www.rtve.es/noticias/20200326/mapa-del-coronavirus-espana/2004681.shtml BlackSun2104 ( talk) 23:59, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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Panama has 674 confirmed cases and 9 deaths. Source: https://www.telemetro.com/nacionales/2020/03/26/panama-registra-9-fallecidos-por-covid-19-y-acumula-674-casos-confirmados/2719716.html 190.219.162.190 ( talk) 23:55, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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Honduras has 68 cases of coronavirus plus one of them died today. so 67 active and 1 dead https://www.laprensa.hn/especiales/coronavirus/1367517-410/honduras-registra-16-nuevos-casos-coronavirus-aumentan-67-contagiados Allancalderini12 ( talk) 00:50, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
In the chart, which lists all countries and their number of Cases, Deaths and Recoveries. Should we add a 4th column which shows Active Cases. I am assuming Cases just mean a historic count of all the people who were infected at one point. Should we not have a column which shows Active Cases which would be (Cases - Recoveries). That way we readers can know how many current cases there are in each country. Mercenary2k ( talk) 15:12, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
earlier we decided not to do this as it fattened up the table. The discussions will be somewhere in the archive. Another reason is that it is harder to maintain. -- Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 05:47, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Change the reference link for Australian cases to the ABC's running count that is updated regularly and is solely for case numbers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704 JMonkey2006 ( talk) 06:19, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please update San Marino counts as follows: recovered: 6 confirmed: 223 official source: http://www.iss.sm/on-line/home/articolo49014186.html 😷 garyCZEk 📢 ✍ {🧒👧👦🚲💻🚗🍣} 13:44, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Singapore's cases should stand at 732 as at 27 March 2020 nighttime, and recovery cases at 183. Please see: https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/pressroom/press-releases/annex---summary-of-confirmed-cases-(27-march-2020).pdf 111.65.36.29 ( talk) 14:13, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi MarioGom. I advise on the column as it provides more clarity. Thank you and hope you are well Hari147 ( talk) 15:16, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Serial numbers are required to know the standing of each country wrt infections SAI SUMANTH 20:37, 27 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saisumanth ( talk • contribs)
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I would like to update the total number of cases for Canada, the current number is using the wrong number from the current source.
The number should be changed to 4043, the previous 3763 number includes recovered people, which is not how it is recorded for all the other countries.
source: https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/health/coronavirus/tracking-every-case-of-covid-19-in-canada-1.4852102 YipB ( talk) 14:37, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Add this to Spain (similar to Italy).
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Change UK cases to 14,579 81.174.128.143 ( talk) 15:32, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Turkey's coronavirus death toll rises to 92, the total number of patients 5,698, 42 patients have recovered so far. https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkeys-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-to-92-with-2-069-new-cases-153353 - Caner Guclu talk 17:10, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Update UK cases, deaths recoveries etc. in the table of the pandemic numbers by country. 150.143.56.191 ( talk) 17:13, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
UK's CCF has remain unchanged for the last 24hrs, can anyone please amend asap. BlackSun2104 ( talk) 20:57, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Panama has 786 confirmed cases and 14 deaths. Source: https://www.tvn-2.com/nacionales/Van-pacientes-COVID-19-Panama_0_5542695764.html 190.219.162.190 ( talk) 23:33, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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The cases for New Zealand are as follows
Reference: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/412818/coronavirus-83-new-cases-in-new-zealand-two-patients-in-intensive-care Maticulous ( talk) 00:57, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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Honduras has confirmed 27 new cases for a total of 95. 1 of them is dead and 4 are in ICU. https://www.laprensa.hn/especiales/coronavirus/1367729-410/reportan-27-nuevos-casos-covid-19-honduras-95-contagiados-total Allancalderini12 ( talk) 01:19, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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There is a note for Italy explaining that the country is testing only at-risk people since 27th February. Actually in Spain, due to low resource, it has been quite the same from the beginning. I think we should add a note, with this source, for example. Paolotacchi ( talk) 08:52, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Spain Is actually not being able to test all the Citizens with cases. the lack of test units, is one of the reasons. Also the fact that 650.000 tests bought from china are not working properly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alnavasa ( talk • contribs) 10:58, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Spain's figure should have been altered by now. BlackSun2104 ( talk) 03:07, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
UK's CCF is now 14,453, please update accordingly. https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14
UK's CCF remain unchanged, is there any explanation for that? https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14 119.74.163.85 ( talk) 18:31, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
UK figures should be 14,743, not more than 11,000, that includes OTs, just copy the figure and paste it. The clue is already in JHU website. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 BlackSun2104 ( talk) 23:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Change the current amount of coronavirus cases for the United Arab Emirates from 333 to 405, and recovery from 52 to 55.
(Here is the source.)
Global amount of cases would be from 577,660 to 577,732. Global recovery is from 130,670 to 130,673.
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This is Jayanika Chandrapriya from Sri Lanka. I am working as a Front End developer for a multinational SaaS company.
I am a keen on this Covid-19 outbreak since it's beginning. Please let me update my country's information in this table. I hereby confirm that neither of my updates will be unconfirmed by the government news authorities. Jayanika1997 ( talk) 15:05, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
According to official sources, UK's CCF as of 28th March is 17,089 and death toll is 1,019 respectively, please update accordingly. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public BlackSun2104 ( talk) 15:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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2 more deaths in Honduras for a total 3.
https://www.diez.hn/coronavirus/1367912-441/dos-muertos-coronavirus-honduras-pacientes-villanueva-suman-tres-covid-honduras Allancalderini12 ( talk) 18:55, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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The total number of cases: 7402, Death toll : 108, Recovered: 70 [1] --- Caner Guclu talk 17:18, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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Panama has 901 confirmed cases, 17 deaths and 4 recovered. Source: https://www.tvn-2.com/nacionales/Coronavirus-en-Panama-casos-COVID-19-salud-Ministerio-Salud-Minsa_0_5543445653.html 190.219.162.190 ( talk) 00:12, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
The number of confirmed cases is a misleading metric for comparison among nations, due to the hugely varying scale of testing taking place. For example, South Korea does broad testing and has probably identified most cases, while Italy says the true number of cases is likely to be 10x what has been identified. Countries are increasingly limiting testing to severe cases or high-risk individuals when they become overwhelmed by the speed of the spread. I suggest that it would make more sense to switch the default sort to deaths, since that is the more reliable number for comparing the severity of the outbreak among nations. 92.51.253.124 ( talk) 01:11, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Support Sorting by deaths by default. Deaths can be less easily hidden than confirmed cases. That said nobody trusts the mainland chinese figures or the iranian ones. The French have admitted that only those dying in hospitals have so far been counted. Those dying elsewhere including in maisons de retraite are not counted and the Germans don't test the deceased. As long as the WHO does not impose uniformity in counting, these figures are less and less trustworthy and are meaningless when it comes to making comparisons Manish2542 ( talk) 17:53, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
In many countries in Europe, such as Italy, Spain and France, healthcare systems are totally overwhelmed by cases and forced to limit testing only to the most serious cases and the most exposed workers [9]. On the contrary, countries such as South Korea or Germany have tested at a very large scale, even people with very mild symptoms or no at all [10].
This generates a significant bias on the "confirmed cases" metric, as obviously you need to be tested in order to be confirmed, which makes it totally fallacious to judge the maturity of the epidemics in each country. Unfortunately at this stage, and considering the proportions of the crisis, the number of deaths seem to be a much more accurate metric, despite having its own bias as well. Hence why it would make a lot more sense to me to use it as the default value to rank countries. Metropolitan ( talk) 20:38, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
The Indian numbers are sourced from the ministry of health and family welfare (MoHFW) but the never match the MoHFW. Either we should change the source or be using their numbers. I see on indian websites that this is a consistent problem. Like on covidindia.org , they report non govt sources and MoHFW cases separately. Also I think the numbers are possible wrong. It is showing 24 deaths. When I can't find a news source more than 20 Gegu0284 ( talk) 18:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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Recover] rate % column ! 178.148.158.198 ( talk) 07:49, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
In the same category of limited recognition or unlimited unrecognition there is Kurdistan. It has 128 cases. [13] Does anyone know if its cases are included in other countries' tallies? Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 10:52, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please update the row for Syria to reflect the recent death case. Reference: https://sana.sy/en/?p=189095 tGDA ( talk) 15:07, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please update San Marino counts according to official source at http://www.iss.sm/on-line/home/aggiornamenti-coronavirus/articolo49014189.html as follows: 229 confirmed, 24 deaths, 12 recovered. 😷 garyCZEk 📢 ✍ {🧒👧👦🚲💻🚗🍣} 14:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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Best, -- MarioGom ( talk) 16:09, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
I notice that in the 2020 Coronavirus Pandemic in the United States, Section Statistics, Table "Current Number of Non-Repatriated Cases by State", that there are now 2 cases in the Northern Mariana Islands, with sources. They are already included in the US total, and should be noted in the US territories note below the table (at least until the RfC is finalised). Ptilinopus ( talk) 13:06, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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Confirmed cases: 9217 [1], Death: 131 [1], Recovered: 105 [2] --- Caner Guclu talk 16:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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Gambia should have been named The Gambia — Preceding unsigned comment added by JecoGS ( talk • contribs) 17:48, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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Colombia's National Ministry of Health just reported 702 total cases and 10 deaths. Please update. Source: https://twitter.com/MinSaludCol/status/1244342063791050760 Juan C. S. H. ( talk) 19:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
"Includes clinically diagnosed cases and deaths from 12 February 2020 and onwards in the province of Hubei."
The WHO reported in Situation Report 24 [1] Chinese reporting "clinically diagnosed cases in addition to laboratory-confirmed cases" in relation to Hubei, as per the quoted footnote. However in Situation Report 31, [2] WHO cited China's revised guidance [3] on case classification that it was going back to only laboratory confirmed cases. As such, given the table only shows the latest cumulative figures the footnote should be removed. -- KTC ( talk) 21:43, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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... are available here. -- 5.43.82.5 ( talk) 22:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
I think the number of test performed should be included in the table. This will give us a better understanding of the scenario. A country that has tested very few and got lower number infected persons can't be equally measured with a country that has tested in wide number and got lower number. -- Rossi101 ( talk) 09:24, 27 March 2020 (UTC)Rossi101
In light of providing more information to readers as well as a form of encouragement, might I suggest for an extra column to be added for the remaining cases? I had added it already but it was abruptly deleted by a user. Thanks Hari147 ( talk) 15:15, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Hari147: Please, do not add new columns ( [15]) without discussion. Current informal consensus is not adding any new column. -- MarioGom ( talk) 15:10, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Please add serial numbers or ranking to the table depicting the number of Covid-19 cases country wise SAI SUMANTH 20:36, 27 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saisumanth ( talk • contribs)
Please break it down according to each cases' respective territory (ie mainland UK, any of the BOTs, etc.) Cheers. RayDeeUx ( talk) 23:40, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Good job.
I would like to suggest to show information about the number of recovered people. Alternatively, to provide information on total cases (sickness + recovery + death)
Chris 77.114.138.70 ( talk) 16:14, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Recov.) is the number of recovered people. The second column (
Cases) is the total number of cases, including recovered and dead. -- MarioGom ( talk) 16:33, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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Panama has 989 confirmed cases and 24 deaths. Source: https://www.laestrella.com.pa/nacional/200329/panama-suma-24-muertos-989-contagiados-covid-19 190.219.162.190 ( talk) 23:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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Honduras has confirmed the third death, and has confirm 29 new cases for a total of 139. https://www.laprensa.hn/honduras/1368232-410/honduras-noticias-coronavirus-salud-contagios-muertos Allancalderini12 ( talk) 03:03, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
The UK entry in the table specifies in the notes below, that it includes the numbers for the territories listed in the notes. It does not. The current figure of 19,522 cases is specified in 2020 coronavirus pandemic in the United Kingdom in section Timeline, Graph "COVID-19 cases in the United Kingdom" as "Figures do not include the cases from British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies.". Thus all the data for territories listed in the notes must either be added to this figure, or listed separately in the table. Ptilinopus ( talk) 00:57, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
This is an ongoing issue, thus I am re-proposing this RfC. We need to settle the countries/territories/dependencies issue settled once for all.
Are territories and dependencies (full list from
List of countries and dependencies by population: Hong Kong, Puerto Rico, Macau, New Caledonia, French Polynesia, Guam, Curaçao, Aruba, Jersey, U.S. Virgin Islands, Isle of Man, Cayman Islands, Bermuda, Guernsey, American Samoa, Greenland, Northern Mariana Islands, Faroe Islands, Turks and Caicos Islands, Sint Maarten, Saint Martin, Gibraltar, British Virgin Islands, Åland Islands, Cook Islands, Anguilla, Wallis and Futuna, Saint Barthélemy, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Saint Helena, Ascension
and Tristan da Cunha, Montserrat, Falkland Islands, Christmas Island, Norfolk Island, Niue, Tokelau, Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Pitcairn Islands) as well as scarcely or not universally recognised countries (Taiwan, Kosovo, Western Sahara, Transnistria, Northern Cyprus, Abkhazia, Artsakh, South Ossetia) to be included in their respective countries' counts or not?
As of now, two dependent territories (namely Hong Kong and Macau, so that China is referred to as "China (mainland)"), along with scarcely or not universally recognised countries are listes separately from their respective countries, others are not. The count is made more complicate by the fact that most sources (notably including
Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by Johns Hopkins CSSE and
Coronavirus Update - Worldometer) list all dependencies separately.
Please, have your say! --
Checco (
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Best regards, Pktlaurence ( talk) 19:06, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Furthermore, if you look closely, you should see I'm agreeing with you, but just pointing out a detail that makes these issues different. Both France and the Netherlands have two categories of overseas land; that which is technically part of the country and governed like anything else of the country, and that which is a territory and not subject to the main national government. In the first category, that would involve Bonaire, Sint Eustatius, Saba, French Guiana and Guadeloupe, etc. In the second category, that would include Aruba, Curacao, Sint Maarten, French Polynesia, Wallis and Futuna, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, etc. These are different issues. We have to decide if we include none and package them all into the sovereign powers, only the second category, or both the first and second category. It is somewhat annoying that a new discussion was made while this was still in progress.— Naddruf ( talk ~ contribs) 18:41, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
When are we gonna bloody implement those changes then? Since we're already having an overwhelming support here. Pktlaurence ( talk) 11:39, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
split all dependenciesand 2)
split dependencies to the extent that official sources report separately. Even the implementation details of both positions are not clear to me. -- MarioGom ( talk) 17:17, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
split all dependencies/territories/entities(multiple variations), others suggested following a scheme like List of countries and dependencies by population which does not split Guadaloupe or Martinique, Heitordp made a fairly detailed proposal with some specifics... -- MarioGom ( talk) 18:11, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Some people said that we should use a "universal consistency" regarding which territories to list separately, but Wikipedia doesn't have one. The List of countries and dependencies by population, List of countries and dependencies by area, Dependent territory and ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 are all slightly different. They all agree that dependencies should be listed separately from their sovereign countries, but what exactly counts as a dependency varies. For example: the French overseas regions are listed separately in ISO but not in the lists by area or population (which claim to be based on ISO); Akrotiri and Dhekelia is not in ISO or the list by population but is in the list by area; Bonaire, Saba and Sint Eustatius compose one entry in ISO, three entries in the list by area, and are only included in the Netherlands in the list by population.
I think that we are free to define which dependencies to split depending on the purpose or the article. For example, the List of circulating currencies implicitly includes the French overseas regions (and its collectivities in the Americas) in France because they all use the euro, but splits Bonaire, Saba and Sint Eustatius from the Netherlands because they use the US dollar, and it even splits Alderney from Guernsey. Even this coronavirus table has an unusual deviation from normal lists of countries by listing a ship.
Here the purpose is to show the geographic distribution of the disease, so I think that the criteria should be what the name of the country is commonly understood to include, its distance to the dependency, and how the sources for the number of cases list them. Below is a table of all dependencies that had cases so far. Please add a row to mark your suggestion on how to list each one, and we can change it multiple times until we reach a consensus. A dash means listed separately. Don't take my suggestion as a fixed opinion, I'm totally open to change it so we can reach a consensus. In the meantime, we could at least split the dependencies that we already agree with.
Justification for my suggestion: Worldometers seems to have corrected its US total, now including only states and DC, and keeping US territories separate. The French health page shows a number for metropolitan France and for each overseas region, Saint Barthélemy and Saint Martin. The numbers reported by Cyprus include Akrotiri and Dhekelia. [19] The Danish health page shows cases for each territory separately. The Finnish health page only shows a total for the whole country. All other dependencies are reported by separate sources. Heitordp ( talk) 23:38, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I found an obstacle to split the territories. Several sources provide the number of cases, but only JHU and Worldometers seem to provide the number of recoveries. JHU combines all territories with the respective countries, and Worldometers is inconsistent, for example showing the number for France including all overseas regions and also listing them separately, and sometimes doing that for the US too. It takes way too much time to figure out the number of cases, deaths and recoveries in all territories and subtract them from the country. And since the numbers are constantly changing, the effort becomes a boulder of Sisyphus. It would be nice to use the WHO situation reports, which list almost all territories separately and get updated just once a day at the same time with all countries. They worked very well during the Ebola epidemics. But they don't show the number of recoveries, and I suppose that people want to see that information here.
I'd also like to mention that I find this template a horrible mess. There are way too many sources, conflicting with each other, people are making edits almost every minute, the sums are not getting updated, and the wiki code is almost unintelligible with lengthy comments and nested templates. I tried to test splitting some territories (just in a preview) and couldn't get anywhere, wasting too much time with calculations to harmonize multiple sources and getting interrupted by the avalanche of edits from other users.
If possible, I'd like to extend the scope of this RfC to radically simplify this template. First, use only one source for everything and just copy the numbers from there exactly into the table. Individual sources from each country may be more up to date but everything is going to get changed after a few hours anyway. So use either JHU, which shows recoveries but combines the territories, or WHO, which splits territories but doesn't show recoveries. It would be great if someone found a better source but for now there doesn't seem to be one. We'd have to make a choice.
Second, remove all the junk code. Can we just make each row like this? {{flag|country}} || 123 || 4 || 56.
Third, after this pandemic is all over (hopefully soon) and the numbers stop changing, we can calmly calculate the numbers once and finally split all territories. Heitordp ( talk) 17:34, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Oppose the British privilege of having three miniscule personal properties of her holy imperial magnificent royal highness listed individually and quite lost as to why the Diamond Princess is still being listed here as all the persons on board have disembarked and are being double counted in the national tallies of the countries that have recuperated them Manish2542 ( talk) 17:47, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
dependency | HK | MO | PR | VI | GU | GF | GP | MQ | RE | YT | BL | MF | NC | PF | Ak/Dh | BM | KY | GI | MS | TC | GG | JE | IM | AW | CW | SX | FO | GL | AX |
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currently | - | - | US | US | US | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | GB CY | GB | GB | GB | GB | GB | - | - | - | NL | NL | NL | DK | DK | FI |
Johns Hopkins | CN | CN | US | US | US | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | ? | GB | GB | GB | GB | ? | GB | GB | GB | NL | NL | NL | DK | DK | ? |
WHO | CN | CN | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ? | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ? |
ECDC ( [21], [22]) | CN | CN | US? | - | - | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | FR | - | - | ? | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ? |
Heitordp | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
RandomIntrigue | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
MarioGom | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ? | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ? |
ptilinopus | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Formulaonewiki | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | - | - | - | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
Checco | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
-- MarioGom ( talk) 09:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)There is a strong consensus on splitting all autonomous territories and dependencies with some disagreements on the criteria to be followed. Some territories were explicitly agreed to be split:
- Special administrative regions of China (Hong Kong, Macau)
- Unincorporated territories of the United States (explicitly cited: Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam)
- Overseas France (explicitly cited: Guadeloupe, French Guiana, Martinique, Réunion, Mayotte, French Polynesia, Saint Martin, Saint Barthélemy, New Caledonia)
- British Overseas Territories (explicitly cited: Akrotiri and Dhekelia, Bermuda, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar, Montserrat, Turks and Caicos Islands)
- Crown dependencies (explicitly cited: Guernsey, Jersey, Isle of Man)
- Constituent countries of the Kingdom of the Netherlands (Aruba, Curaçao, Sint Maarten)
- Autonomous territories of the Kingdom of Denmark (Faroe Islands, Greenland)
- Autonomous regions of Finland (Åland Islands)
Availability of reliable sources ( WP:RS) is a prerequisite for any split. Reliable sources are believed to exist for all territories that were explicitly agreed.
Everything in the title Manish2542 ( talk) 18:20, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Pktlaurence: Northern Cyprus is not unrecognised. It is partially unrecognised such as Taiwan, Kosovo, Palestine so on... It is not comparable with Transnistria. Either we only include UN-states, or stop removing Northern Cyprus, which already has more cases then several countries. Beshogur ( talk) 16:35, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Beshogur: It IS comparable with Transnistria indeed. Both are puppet states planted by a regional power, and both ONLY recognised by their overlord. Pktlaurence ( talk) 16:39, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Wow, I'm appalled that you cant see the fact that its actually he who made an empty ad hominem attack without any meaningful contents against me first. And I'm even more appalled that you expect talk page discussions to be empty without meaningful contents. So much for a 'good editor' like you, no wonder you keep reverting my edits. Pktlaurence ( talk) 16:56, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Albertoleoncio: my point is, Transnistria gets incorporated. NC is in a similar situation of Transnistria and it should be getting the same treatment like it...the people in this wiki are just strange enough that they always breaks the principle of universal consistency so blatantly. Amd, well, NC is not a country, it is an unrecognised puppet state like Transnistria. Maybe you think i have biases, but i think take off the word 'puppet' everybody will agree to this statement. Pktlaurence ( talk) 16:59, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
People, lets focus a little bit. What the core sources says? They are joined or separeted? Albertoleoncio ( talk) 17:13, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
I think all unrecognized states, dependencies, etc, should use italics. The World Health Organization does report on these territories separately, as discussed above, but it does so making a clear distinction. -- MarioGom ( talk) 23:23, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Can someone add it if possible. I tried it but it doesn't work. Thanks in advance. Beshogur ( talk) 11:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks to
User:MarioGom for closing the RfC.
Two questions:
Cheers, -- Checco ( talk) 09:24, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
The outcome is almost fully implemented. The only exception is Akrotiri and Dhekelia, which is included in Cyprus' figures. I have found no up-to-date source that reliably reports Akrotiri and Dhekelia cases in a way that it can be consistently subtracted from Cyprus totals. However, at least it is not double counted both in the United Kingdom and Cyprus anymore. If anyone finds a source that reports both Cyprus total and Akrotiri and Dhekelia figures at the same point in time, feel free to split it. I'm reluctant to subtract amounts when the total (Cyprus including Ak/Dh) and Ak/Dh figures correspond to different days. -- MarioGom ( talk) 16:08, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
France's official map (
[30]) (thanks
Heitordp) provides per-region breakdown of deaths and "recoveries" (hospital discharges, indicator used as "recoveries" by JHU and other sources). However, as of 26 March, they stopped reporting confirmed cases (cas confirmés
) per region. Apparently they decided to replace with another indicator soon (Un nouvel indicateur sera bientôt proposé.
) They still provide confirmed cases at national level, but for some reasons they decided to stop publishing it per region. Does anyone know if they still publish it elsewhere other than WHO Situation Reports? --
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