This template was considered for deletion on 6 July 2007. The result of the discussion was "keep". |
This template was considered for deletion on 9 April 2008. The result of the discussion was "keep". |
This template was considered for deletion on 17 December 2009. The result of the discussion was "keep". |
This template was considered for deletion on 17 October 2013. The result of the discussion was "keep". |
Wikicities is not a Wikimedia sister project. The sister projects, which get special box-like templates, are listed at Wikipedia:Sister projects. Other external websites get no special treatment, regardless of whose servers they run on or whose software packages they use. See e.g. Template:imdb, Template:wikitravel, Template:memoryalpha. -- Quuxplusone 06:42, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Robin Patterson and Fuzzie point out that Wikicities is now called Wikia.
For instructions on how to use this template, see the table at Wikipedia:Template messages/Links#External links.
It strikes me as slightly counter-intuitive to link Wikia first and have the wiki as the second link; {{ Imdb name}} and similar templates have the target external link as the first linked item. Should this template be reworded to make the wiki the first linked item? -- Muchness ( talk) 01:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
This was recently removed from the expanded form.
Rick Deckard on Blade Runner, a Wikia wiki
has been changed to
Rick Deckard on Blade Runner, an external wiki
Why? Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:06, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I agree with the previous points, that the article should be the first link, not Wikia. I also think that this template should include conditional formatting to spell out the custom wiki's names... Here is a sample of how I am picturing the output:
This template would need to account for the more direct linking format (ie http://halo.wikia.com instead of http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:Halo:Main_Page). I will work on trying to accomplish this, but complex templates are a little bit above my wiki knowledge level. LobStoR ( talk) 01:31, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Resetting threading level... I built a "wrapper template" that is 100% compatible with the interface provided by the current Wikia template. I am going to overwrite the current Wikia template shortly... there will be some pages that don't have wikititles defined in the template, though. It's not perfect, but I think it's an adequate replacement. Know of anyplace to get a nice listing of Wikia wikis? LobStoR ( talk) 23:52, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
# inputs | markup | output | comments |
---|---|---|---|
0 inputs | {{Wikia}} | Wikia | With zero inputs, it takes the current {{PAGENAME}} and looks for it on the main Wikia wiki |
1 input | {{Wikia | halo}} | Halo Nation | With one input, it takes the current {{PAGENAME}} and looks for it on the specified Wikia wiki (halo.wikia.com, in this case) |
2 inputs | {{Wikia | halo | DeprecatedWikiTitle}} | Halo Nation | With two inputs, it tosses the second input (the "custom title" for the wiki) |
3 inputs | {{Wikia | halo | DeprecatedWikiTitle | John-117}} | John-117 on Halo Nation | With three inputs, it looks for the specified article on the specified wiki and uses that as the display name |
4 inputs | {{Wikia | halo | DeprecatedWikiTitle | John-117 | Master Chief}} | Master Chief on Halo Nation | With four inputs, it looks for the specified article on the specified wiki, and uses the display name specified |
Wiki not in list | {{Wikia | WikiNotInList | DeprecatedWikiTitle | John-117 | Master Chief}} | Master Chief on DeprecatedWikiTitle, an external wiki | The "Edit" button appears if the wiki is NOT in the list, (hopefully) prompting users to add it |
I've reverted the edits which changed this into an instance of {{ WikiaNew}} for now. The new output format when pointing to the main page is suboptimal; I think this should be improved prior to deprecating this template. There is no urgent need to make this change; we can take our time with it. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 15:04, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Currently, the template uses class=plainlinks to remove the external link icon... I think it looks better as a plainlink, but it would make it may make it more clear to the reader that they are leaving Wikipedia if we keep the normal external links. Examples:
So, should we set this template to show the little icon for external links? LobStoR ( talk) 12:05, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
(reset threading level) I didn't create the capability to link like this:
This is the Wikipedia-designated style. I agree with you that these should appear as external links, but where do we go to ask for that? LobStoR ( talk) 13:33, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
(edit conflicted, unindent) I noticed you put a help request in here, but it's now been removed.
I suggest you read through Wikipedia:InterWikimedia links first; if you then wish to raise the issue, there are two places I think might be appropriate. The first is the talk page of that document, but I see there has been little activity in there. Therefore I'd recommend taking your discussion to the village pump.
As an aside - I haven't looked at your template, but one way to get the symbol would simply be to express Wikia as a full URL, rather than using the interlink, ie instead of wikia:Wookieepedia, you'd use wookiepedia].
Hope this helps, Chzz ► 13:53, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
This seems like a solution in search of a problem. Please don't edit widely used templates unless there is a dire need to do so. ˉˉ anetode ╦╩ 14:21, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Please add anchorencode to accomodate for possible spaces in input #3. This could prevent problems on links such as this:
See also: Help:Parser function#ANCHORENCODE. Thanks! LobStoR ( talk) 14:46, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
The recent spate of edits don't appear to have been particularly well-tested and have caused random fallout over the various transclusions. Requesting revert to this revision until such point as the editor in question takes the time to discuss changes prior to implementing them. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 15:10, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
(reset thread level) So the choices at hand are:
I vote for 2 (sandbox version), personally... It fixes the ONE and ONLY untested change, that is currently locked into the template. LobStoR ( talk) 16:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} Ok, now that the template has been reverted to a working version, I have implemented an updated version in Template:Wikia/sandbox. It is fully functional to all of expected behavior from the current template. Updated features include External URL links instead of inter-wiki links, and easier-to-read code layout.
Please comment if you agree or disagree with these proposed changes. LobStoR ( talk) 16:57, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} A glitch was identified at Template talk:Memoryalpha that links with special characters have problems, stemming from the use of anchorencode:
The sandbox has been reverted to use the [[Wikia:___]] namespace. Please check over, and when satisfied, copy over to the template. LobStoR ( talk) 02:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Can {{
high-risk}} be changed to {{
high-use}}. Any maybe even moved into the doc subpage. It's only used on 3700 pages. Thanks. --
WOSlinker (
talk) 09:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Wikia is a commercial site with lots of rather obnoxious advertising (see a recent thread at
MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist). Still, we are favoring them over many other sites by using an interwiki link to link to them. That has more effect than just hiding the external link icon: it also removes the
nofollow attribute from the link, giving these links more Google prominence than other (perhaps more helpful or less ad-ridden) links. I would suggest we stop treating Wikia as an almost sister site (they're not) and start linking with standard external links using our usual standards. So I propose to edit this template to use external instead of interwiki links.
Kusma (
talk) 06:14, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
The bad ad has been detected and removed. Wikia's response can be found in this forum post. Angela . 07:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I know this discussion is long since over, but I should point out that how Wikia is treated is no different from tons of other 3rd party wikis, as seen on
m:Interwiki map. The usage of interwiki links has always been a technical convenance, and was never an indication of some kind of formal relationship. Interwiki links were never meant to be reserved only for sister sites.
The NOFOLLOW issue has been brought up before on m:Interwiki map and other places on en.wikipedia. This is a technical issue that can't be fixed at the level of this template. -- Ned Scott 04:11, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Wikia isn't the only Wiki site in the world, the template should say say it is Wikia wiki. For example:
From those, all we know is that it's another Wiki on the subject.-- Otterathome ( talk) 20:21, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Instead of showing:
it now shows
This used to show right, but I am unable to trace to the point where it went wrong. — Edokter • Talk • 22:18, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
The current system of linking with this template sends people to the equivalent of Special:RecentChanges on a Wikia wiki. It would be preferable to link to the mainpage of a wiki.
http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:{{{1}}}
sends to → http://{{{1}}}.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity
http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:{{{1}}}:Main_Page
sends to → http://{{{1}}}.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
(which is always the main page, or a redirect to the main page)-- Gardimuer ( talk) 23:28, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
I suggest not using Halopedia as a reference in the usage examples. I'd rather have a wiki that had not split up with Wikia, like Red Dead Redemption for example.-- 98.229.75.253 ( talk) 08:21, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
-- Jerome Potts ( talk) 07:01, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
This text is redundant, incongruous and distracting, and ought to be removed. "*Title at WhateverWiki" is sufficient and properly consistent with the rest of Category:External link templates. Skomorokh 13:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
For some Wikia wikis, we have an article on Wikipedia about them e.g. Wookieepedia and Memory Alpha. For these, the 2nd link should ideally link to our article instead of to the wiki's homepage. I changed the {{ Wookieepedia}} as an example, and {{ Memoryalpha}} already does this. Even if we don't have an article about a specific wiki, I think we should link to Wikia instead of the wiki's homepage e.g. "John-117 on Halo Nation, a Wikia wiki". Otherwise we are linking to the wiki twice. -- Odie5533 ( talk) 22:45, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Aha, I see the wiki code that it contains Wikia community links (instead of external links).
This should work with the wiki code links to Wikia from Wikipedia rather than using the Wikia template. -- Allen talk 05:15, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
This template was considered for deletion on 6 July 2007. The result of the discussion was "keep". |
This template was considered for deletion on 9 April 2008. The result of the discussion was "keep". |
This template was considered for deletion on 17 December 2009. The result of the discussion was "keep". |
This template was considered for deletion on 17 October 2013. The result of the discussion was "keep". |
Wikicities is not a Wikimedia sister project. The sister projects, which get special box-like templates, are listed at Wikipedia:Sister projects. Other external websites get no special treatment, regardless of whose servers they run on or whose software packages they use. See e.g. Template:imdb, Template:wikitravel, Template:memoryalpha. -- Quuxplusone 06:42, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Robin Patterson and Fuzzie point out that Wikicities is now called Wikia.
For instructions on how to use this template, see the table at Wikipedia:Template messages/Links#External links.
It strikes me as slightly counter-intuitive to link Wikia first and have the wiki as the second link; {{ Imdb name}} and similar templates have the target external link as the first linked item. Should this template be reworded to make the wiki the first linked item? -- Muchness ( talk) 01:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
This was recently removed from the expanded form.
Rick Deckard on Blade Runner, a Wikia wiki
has been changed to
Rick Deckard on Blade Runner, an external wiki
Why? Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:06, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I agree with the previous points, that the article should be the first link, not Wikia. I also think that this template should include conditional formatting to spell out the custom wiki's names... Here is a sample of how I am picturing the output:
This template would need to account for the more direct linking format (ie http://halo.wikia.com instead of http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:Halo:Main_Page). I will work on trying to accomplish this, but complex templates are a little bit above my wiki knowledge level. LobStoR ( talk) 01:31, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Resetting threading level... I built a "wrapper template" that is 100% compatible with the interface provided by the current Wikia template. I am going to overwrite the current Wikia template shortly... there will be some pages that don't have wikititles defined in the template, though. It's not perfect, but I think it's an adequate replacement. Know of anyplace to get a nice listing of Wikia wikis? LobStoR ( talk) 23:52, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
# inputs | markup | output | comments |
---|---|---|---|
0 inputs | {{Wikia}} | Wikia | With zero inputs, it takes the current {{PAGENAME}} and looks for it on the main Wikia wiki |
1 input | {{Wikia | halo}} | Halo Nation | With one input, it takes the current {{PAGENAME}} and looks for it on the specified Wikia wiki (halo.wikia.com, in this case) |
2 inputs | {{Wikia | halo | DeprecatedWikiTitle}} | Halo Nation | With two inputs, it tosses the second input (the "custom title" for the wiki) |
3 inputs | {{Wikia | halo | DeprecatedWikiTitle | John-117}} | John-117 on Halo Nation | With three inputs, it looks for the specified article on the specified wiki and uses that as the display name |
4 inputs | {{Wikia | halo | DeprecatedWikiTitle | John-117 | Master Chief}} | Master Chief on Halo Nation | With four inputs, it looks for the specified article on the specified wiki, and uses the display name specified |
Wiki not in list | {{Wikia | WikiNotInList | DeprecatedWikiTitle | John-117 | Master Chief}} | Master Chief on DeprecatedWikiTitle, an external wiki | The "Edit" button appears if the wiki is NOT in the list, (hopefully) prompting users to add it |
I've reverted the edits which changed this into an instance of {{ WikiaNew}} for now. The new output format when pointing to the main page is suboptimal; I think this should be improved prior to deprecating this template. There is no urgent need to make this change; we can take our time with it. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 15:04, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Currently, the template uses class=plainlinks to remove the external link icon... I think it looks better as a plainlink, but it would make it may make it more clear to the reader that they are leaving Wikipedia if we keep the normal external links. Examples:
So, should we set this template to show the little icon for external links? LobStoR ( talk) 12:05, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
(reset threading level) I didn't create the capability to link like this:
This is the Wikipedia-designated style. I agree with you that these should appear as external links, but where do we go to ask for that? LobStoR ( talk) 13:33, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
(edit conflicted, unindent) I noticed you put a help request in here, but it's now been removed.
I suggest you read through Wikipedia:InterWikimedia links first; if you then wish to raise the issue, there are two places I think might be appropriate. The first is the talk page of that document, but I see there has been little activity in there. Therefore I'd recommend taking your discussion to the village pump.
As an aside - I haven't looked at your template, but one way to get the symbol would simply be to express Wikia as a full URL, rather than using the interlink, ie instead of wikia:Wookieepedia, you'd use wookiepedia].
Hope this helps, Chzz ► 13:53, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
This seems like a solution in search of a problem. Please don't edit widely used templates unless there is a dire need to do so. ˉˉ anetode ╦╩ 14:21, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Please add anchorencode to accomodate for possible spaces in input #3. This could prevent problems on links such as this:
See also: Help:Parser function#ANCHORENCODE. Thanks! LobStoR ( talk) 14:46, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
The recent spate of edits don't appear to have been particularly well-tested and have caused random fallout over the various transclusions. Requesting revert to this revision until such point as the editor in question takes the time to discuss changes prior to implementing them. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 15:10, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
(reset thread level) So the choices at hand are:
I vote for 2 (sandbox version), personally... It fixes the ONE and ONLY untested change, that is currently locked into the template. LobStoR ( talk) 16:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} Ok, now that the template has been reverted to a working version, I have implemented an updated version in Template:Wikia/sandbox. It is fully functional to all of expected behavior from the current template. Updated features include External URL links instead of inter-wiki links, and easier-to-read code layout.
Please comment if you agree or disagree with these proposed changes. LobStoR ( talk) 16:57, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} A glitch was identified at Template talk:Memoryalpha that links with special characters have problems, stemming from the use of anchorencode:
The sandbox has been reverted to use the [[Wikia:___]] namespace. Please check over, and when satisfied, copy over to the template. LobStoR ( talk) 02:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Can {{
high-risk}} be changed to {{
high-use}}. Any maybe even moved into the doc subpage. It's only used on 3700 pages. Thanks. --
WOSlinker (
talk) 09:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Wikia is a commercial site with lots of rather obnoxious advertising (see a recent thread at
MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist). Still, we are favoring them over many other sites by using an interwiki link to link to them. That has more effect than just hiding the external link icon: it also removes the
nofollow attribute from the link, giving these links more Google prominence than other (perhaps more helpful or less ad-ridden) links. I would suggest we stop treating Wikia as an almost sister site (they're not) and start linking with standard external links using our usual standards. So I propose to edit this template to use external instead of interwiki links.
Kusma (
talk) 06:14, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
The bad ad has been detected and removed. Wikia's response can be found in this forum post. Angela . 07:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I know this discussion is long since over, but I should point out that how Wikia is treated is no different from tons of other 3rd party wikis, as seen on
m:Interwiki map. The usage of interwiki links has always been a technical convenance, and was never an indication of some kind of formal relationship. Interwiki links were never meant to be reserved only for sister sites.
The NOFOLLOW issue has been brought up before on m:Interwiki map and other places on en.wikipedia. This is a technical issue that can't be fixed at the level of this template. -- Ned Scott 04:11, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Wikia isn't the only Wiki site in the world, the template should say say it is Wikia wiki. For example:
From those, all we know is that it's another Wiki on the subject.-- Otterathome ( talk) 20:21, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Instead of showing:
it now shows
This used to show right, but I am unable to trace to the point where it went wrong. — Edokter • Talk • 22:18, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
The current system of linking with this template sends people to the equivalent of Special:RecentChanges on a Wikia wiki. It would be preferable to link to the mainpage of a wiki.
http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:{{{1}}}
sends to → http://{{{1}}}.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity
http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:{{{1}}}:Main_Page
sends to → http://{{{1}}}.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
(which is always the main page, or a redirect to the main page)-- Gardimuer ( talk) 23:28, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
I suggest not using Halopedia as a reference in the usage examples. I'd rather have a wiki that had not split up with Wikia, like Red Dead Redemption for example.-- 98.229.75.253 ( talk) 08:21, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
-- Jerome Potts ( talk) 07:01, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
This text is redundant, incongruous and distracting, and ought to be removed. "*Title at WhateverWiki" is sufficient and properly consistent with the rest of Category:External link templates. Skomorokh 13:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
For some Wikia wikis, we have an article on Wikipedia about them e.g. Wookieepedia and Memory Alpha. For these, the 2nd link should ideally link to our article instead of to the wiki's homepage. I changed the {{ Wookieepedia}} as an example, and {{ Memoryalpha}} already does this. Even if we don't have an article about a specific wiki, I think we should link to Wikia instead of the wiki's homepage e.g. "John-117 on Halo Nation, a Wikia wiki". Otherwise we are linking to the wiki twice. -- Odie5533 ( talk) 22:45, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Aha, I see the wiki code that it contains Wikia community links (instead of external links).
This should work with the wiki code links to Wikia from Wikipedia rather than using the Wikia template. -- Allen talk 05:15, 20 August 2014 (UTC)