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They're not listed anywhere, yet they appear on the ballot in as many states as some of the third parties that are in bold. Also, they appear on the ballot in California, which is 1) the largest state, 2) one of the hardest states to get on the ballot on, and 3) one of the states with the fewest third parties. I'm being bold and adding them back. Purplebackpack89 ( talk) 01:34, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
If this is to be a comprehensive list of national political parties, shouldn't the Prohibition Party be included? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.153.253.179 ( talk) 12:47, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I know it has been discussed before, but I feel that we should designate Third Parties and Smaller Parties differently, since it is a fact that all parties other than the primary two are "Third Parties". Not using the proper adj may confuse people who do not understand US Politics, since this is an encyclopedia I feel that we should change it to something like "Major Third Parties" "Minor Third Parties", and also have a clear cut definition on which is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Teamcoltra ( talk • contribs) 04:28, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
There's no article at present about a national Conservative Party, although Conservative Party#United States gives two red links to uncreated articles. So I and another editor are in a quandary about how to treat "Conservative" in this template. Should we list those two separate red-links (which might start returning this template to being one loaded with red links to dozens of other defunct minor parties, links that would be of little use to the ordinary reader), do we link to Conservative Party#United States (which leads to four live articles about state parties as well as two non-existent articles about national parties), or do we just omit "Conservative" until someone has written at least a stub for one national party with that name? I'm attaching the earlier discussion on my Talk Page below.
Earlier discussion on my talk page
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In your edit summary on Template:USParty, you said "Reverted food-faith edit leading to empty links, since disambig page also leads to state parties". OK. First, if these two parties aren't notable enough to have articles written about them, maybe they don't need to be in the template all. Or, if they are notable, it would be a good idea for someone to write those articles. Second, the headline at the top of the template says "National political parties in the United States". How do state parties come into the discussion, then? -- R'n'B ( call me Russ) 00:03, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
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—— Shakescene ( talk) 06:38, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
I updated the template to match List of political parties in the United States, with 3 parties excluded: American 3rd Party, New Union Party, and Socialist Labor Party. The first is of questionable significance (see its talk page), while the second and third might be inactive - it's not clear. Also, the "List of..." page does not contain American Independent Party, which used to be a national party but is now only a state party. I didn't touch the historical parties. 71.184.241.68 ( talk) 22:34, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
I annotated the definition of "smaller" to say it is based on number of party members. According to the membership parameter in {{ Infobox political party}}, the larger parties all had at least 100,000 members. If there's a better definition, feel free to add it. 67.100.127.116 ( talk) 00:00, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
This does not seem to be true at this date. 173.15.73.108 ( talk) 20:37, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
I have added Americans Elect and the Justice Party as "larger" parties, based on them having ballot access in enough states to theoretically win the 2012 presidential election, as can be seen here.-- 24.240.187.254 ( talk) 20:40, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
According to the notes, a larger party is one which is "Recognized as a major national party by the FEC" while a smaller party is "Not recognized as a major national party by the FEC". What does this mean? There does not appear to be any information on the FEC's website about "major national parties". 1.126.110.204 ( talk) 19:43, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
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They're not listed anywhere, yet they appear on the ballot in as many states as some of the third parties that are in bold. Also, they appear on the ballot in California, which is 1) the largest state, 2) one of the hardest states to get on the ballot on, and 3) one of the states with the fewest third parties. I'm being bold and adding them back. Purplebackpack89 ( talk) 01:34, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
If this is to be a comprehensive list of national political parties, shouldn't the Prohibition Party be included? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.153.253.179 ( talk) 12:47, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I know it has been discussed before, but I feel that we should designate Third Parties and Smaller Parties differently, since it is a fact that all parties other than the primary two are "Third Parties". Not using the proper adj may confuse people who do not understand US Politics, since this is an encyclopedia I feel that we should change it to something like "Major Third Parties" "Minor Third Parties", and also have a clear cut definition on which is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Teamcoltra ( talk • contribs) 04:28, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
There's no article at present about a national Conservative Party, although Conservative Party#United States gives two red links to uncreated articles. So I and another editor are in a quandary about how to treat "Conservative" in this template. Should we list those two separate red-links (which might start returning this template to being one loaded with red links to dozens of other defunct minor parties, links that would be of little use to the ordinary reader), do we link to Conservative Party#United States (which leads to four live articles about state parties as well as two non-existent articles about national parties), or do we just omit "Conservative" until someone has written at least a stub for one national party with that name? I'm attaching the earlier discussion on my Talk Page below.
Earlier discussion on my talk page
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In your edit summary on Template:USParty, you said "Reverted food-faith edit leading to empty links, since disambig page also leads to state parties". OK. First, if these two parties aren't notable enough to have articles written about them, maybe they don't need to be in the template all. Or, if they are notable, it would be a good idea for someone to write those articles. Second, the headline at the top of the template says "National political parties in the United States". How do state parties come into the discussion, then? -- R'n'B ( call me Russ) 00:03, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
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—— Shakescene ( talk) 06:38, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
I updated the template to match List of political parties in the United States, with 3 parties excluded: American 3rd Party, New Union Party, and Socialist Labor Party. The first is of questionable significance (see its talk page), while the second and third might be inactive - it's not clear. Also, the "List of..." page does not contain American Independent Party, which used to be a national party but is now only a state party. I didn't touch the historical parties. 71.184.241.68 ( talk) 22:34, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
I annotated the definition of "smaller" to say it is based on number of party members. According to the membership parameter in {{ Infobox political party}}, the larger parties all had at least 100,000 members. If there's a better definition, feel free to add it. 67.100.127.116 ( talk) 00:00, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
This does not seem to be true at this date. 173.15.73.108 ( talk) 20:37, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
I have added Americans Elect and the Justice Party as "larger" parties, based on them having ballot access in enough states to theoretically win the 2012 presidential election, as can be seen here.-- 24.240.187.254 ( talk) 20:40, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
According to the notes, a larger party is one which is "Recognized as a major national party by the FEC" while a smaller party is "Not recognized as a major national party by the FEC". What does this mean? There does not appear to be any information on the FEC's website about "major national parties". 1.126.110.204 ( talk) 19:43, 2 August 2018 (UTC)