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He's credited as a presenter, so leave it be. -- 293.xx.xxx.xx 09:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Look, we stick to what BBC has done. Top Gear lists him as a presenter, despite the fact he never speaks. Unless you can produce any other verifiable source that The Stig ain't a presenter, then please present your evidence. Otherwise, your edits are unconstructive. Also, i've never expressed any "ownership" to the template, as other editors have edited it by adding past presenters and deleting my insert of the Top Gear Logo and I never complained or drastically went psycho over the edits. -- 293.xx.xxx.xx 10:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
He never was, is, or will be a "presenter". It's just a tounge-in-cheek think that he's credited as such at the end of the programme, in the same way that it was tounge-in-cheek when they went to America and all the casts names were Americanised. If we took that a face-value the producer would Andy "dubya" Wilman. The Stig should be removed from the presenters and a new section should be added for "Also Starring" which should also include Top Gear Dog and Sabine Schmidt. Davesmith33 14:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Sabine isn't a presenter and isn't listed as so. Neither is Top Gear Dog. What are you moaning about? They are both part of the show and so are listed in others. Are you suggesting they are less important than, for example, Jon Bentley???? The Stig is listed (wrongly) as a presenter (like you wanted) so I can't see what the problem is. End of discussion. Davesmith33 18:35, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
I have added Sabine Schmidt to the infobox as I feel (and others may disagree) that she was/is as much a part of the programme as Jon Bentley was/is. Please discuss. Davesmith33 20:50, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
"The question we should ask is "has Top Gear had a major influence on the person's life?" If the answer is yes, they should be listed" - the answer to that question is yes because it made her made famous around the world amongs TG viewers. I see we have the same 3 people removing facts from the encyclopedia and passing them off as genuine edits. Sabine Schmitz deserves to be on that infobox, just because I put her there has nothing to do with it. Davesmith33 14:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Sounds to me as though you're making up the criteria as you go along. "Has TG had a significance in their life?" - the answer to that is also yes anyway as it made her a household name and helped get her the job on German TV. "Have they significantly influenced or contributed to TG?" - again the answer is yes. Bentley contributed to the old version of Top Gear and therefore has less of a place there than Schmitz. I'm reinstating her until the issue is resolved. Also, unlike TGD, we are not just going to take it as read if the 3 most prominent posters here (we know who they are), all disagree with me, that that equals a consensus on the subject. Davesmith33 12:28, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
French, your aggressive edit-warring is totally uncalled for and is blatant vandalism. Davesmith33 17:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
This has now gone to arbitration - Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Bullying_and_Victimisation_against_Davesmith33 Davesmith33 18:01, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
...and the decision will be appealed. Davesmith33 08:26, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, don't shoot me, but shouldn't Clarkson and May also be listed under Original Format Presenters? D B D 15:23, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't Jason Dawe be placed in the Current Format Presenters? He is not a current presenter, but he was a presenter in Series 1 of the current format. Rascalb 04:35, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't Top Gear Dog also be added, seeing as she was introduced as quote, "a new presenter". Davesmith33 22:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Well User:Davesmith33 thinks so in his edit here. If this is so, why not come here and make the case? Why make a contentions edit that you know will be reverted unless it is to provoke another edit war? DrFrench 19:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
If Sabine Schmitz and Top Gear Dog are classed as fancruft in the eyes of DrFrench, then Jon Bentley can certainly be included as Cruft as well. Davesmith33 17:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
AHHHH!! The new colors hurt my eyes!! Revert it back to Green or some other soothing color, please!! -- 293.xx.xxx.xx 08:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
The previous version of the template was much more organized [1] Who cares about vertical space? I've seen templates far longer than this one. The way it is now, the information is mushed together, while before there were breaks between the various sections, which helped organized the sections. El Greco( talk) 16:05, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I've moved the Top Gear of the Pops and Top Ground Gear Force from the spin-off section to the see also section. This is becasue they're not spin-offs in the sense that most people would think of - just one-off specials for a charity event. DrFrench ( talk) 18:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
My addition of TGSM as a "presenter" was reverted. OK I can accept that if he is not credited as such. How about adding TGSM as a "segment" or a "see also"? – ukexpat ( talk) 14:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
So this template overrides the default {{ navbox}} colours with a sort of aqua colour for no good reason that I can see. There's no reason to do this - the {{ navbox}} documentation explicitly states that "changing the default styles is not recommended", and I can't see that the show has any particular affinity for aqua as a colour that might suggest overriding anyway (such as happens with football team navbox colours). The override should be removed, which will simplify the template and make it more consistent with the rest of the project. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 13:06, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Should the Top Gear Race to the North be added to the "Specials" section? It was a pretty big challenge, and there's a nice detailed article about it. King Bananamoo ( talk) 18:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
the company said : the BMW 2010 it have tracktion you can't drift but here in saudi arabia we have drift and i have a vidio you can get it from the youtube and this is alink : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8-JC585m-M&feature=fvwrel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soso 08 ( talk • contribs) 02:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
I've added "Top Gear's Top 41", maybe it would be cleaner with "Top 41" instead? I've added a pre-alpha list of sequences from each episodes in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Top_Gear%27s_Top_41 since I didn't get to edit/make the wikipedia page. I'll update it when I watch the sequence 10-01, maybe later today. 41-35 may not be reprised today, I hope that somebody else keeps a eye up for the two first episodes.
Would it be useful to add something like that "Series 10 Episode 5" after each sequences as a back reference? 78.156.13.117 ( talk) 06:09, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
It's not a spin-off, not even a one time. It's clearly a Top Gear Special. Moved accordingly. Le Grand Bleu ( talk) 12:35, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Torqueing is insisting on making this edit, adding Chris Evans as a current presenter. However,the simple fact is that despite a contract being in place, Evans has not presented a single episode of Top Gear and cannot therefore be regarded as a presenter. Speculation is that new episodes of Top Gear will air in 2016 but, as of now, only Evans has been contracted. No other presenters have even been named, although there has been plenty of speculation about Jodie Kidd, but Wikipedia does not deal in speculation. Anything can happen in the next 9+ months so it's better that we wait until we have some content that doesn't mean throwing WP:CRYSTAL out the window. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 05:08, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
So now you two retarded it up last year, are you going to even bother taking Clarkson, May and Hammond out of the template? Pfft... Torqueing ( talk) 18:12, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
The Top Gear Nepal Special (Series 28) and the Top Gear Driving Home For Christmas Special (Series 31) are not listed in the "Specials" section.
Also, why is the Race to the North considered a special episode? TheIndianPianist ( talk) 23:12, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
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He's credited as a presenter, so leave it be. -- 293.xx.xxx.xx 09:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Look, we stick to what BBC has done. Top Gear lists him as a presenter, despite the fact he never speaks. Unless you can produce any other verifiable source that The Stig ain't a presenter, then please present your evidence. Otherwise, your edits are unconstructive. Also, i've never expressed any "ownership" to the template, as other editors have edited it by adding past presenters and deleting my insert of the Top Gear Logo and I never complained or drastically went psycho over the edits. -- 293.xx.xxx.xx 10:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
He never was, is, or will be a "presenter". It's just a tounge-in-cheek think that he's credited as such at the end of the programme, in the same way that it was tounge-in-cheek when they went to America and all the casts names were Americanised. If we took that a face-value the producer would Andy "dubya" Wilman. The Stig should be removed from the presenters and a new section should be added for "Also Starring" which should also include Top Gear Dog and Sabine Schmidt. Davesmith33 14:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Sabine isn't a presenter and isn't listed as so. Neither is Top Gear Dog. What are you moaning about? They are both part of the show and so are listed in others. Are you suggesting they are less important than, for example, Jon Bentley???? The Stig is listed (wrongly) as a presenter (like you wanted) so I can't see what the problem is. End of discussion. Davesmith33 18:35, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
I have added Sabine Schmidt to the infobox as I feel (and others may disagree) that she was/is as much a part of the programme as Jon Bentley was/is. Please discuss. Davesmith33 20:50, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
"The question we should ask is "has Top Gear had a major influence on the person's life?" If the answer is yes, they should be listed" - the answer to that question is yes because it made her made famous around the world amongs TG viewers. I see we have the same 3 people removing facts from the encyclopedia and passing them off as genuine edits. Sabine Schmitz deserves to be on that infobox, just because I put her there has nothing to do with it. Davesmith33 14:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Sounds to me as though you're making up the criteria as you go along. "Has TG had a significance in their life?" - the answer to that is also yes anyway as it made her a household name and helped get her the job on German TV. "Have they significantly influenced or contributed to TG?" - again the answer is yes. Bentley contributed to the old version of Top Gear and therefore has less of a place there than Schmitz. I'm reinstating her until the issue is resolved. Also, unlike TGD, we are not just going to take it as read if the 3 most prominent posters here (we know who they are), all disagree with me, that that equals a consensus on the subject. Davesmith33 12:28, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
French, your aggressive edit-warring is totally uncalled for and is blatant vandalism. Davesmith33 17:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
This has now gone to arbitration - Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Bullying_and_Victimisation_against_Davesmith33 Davesmith33 18:01, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
...and the decision will be appealed. Davesmith33 08:26, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, don't shoot me, but shouldn't Clarkson and May also be listed under Original Format Presenters? D B D 15:23, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't Jason Dawe be placed in the Current Format Presenters? He is not a current presenter, but he was a presenter in Series 1 of the current format. Rascalb 04:35, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't Top Gear Dog also be added, seeing as she was introduced as quote, "a new presenter". Davesmith33 22:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Well User:Davesmith33 thinks so in his edit here. If this is so, why not come here and make the case? Why make a contentions edit that you know will be reverted unless it is to provoke another edit war? DrFrench 19:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
If Sabine Schmitz and Top Gear Dog are classed as fancruft in the eyes of DrFrench, then Jon Bentley can certainly be included as Cruft as well. Davesmith33 17:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
AHHHH!! The new colors hurt my eyes!! Revert it back to Green or some other soothing color, please!! -- 293.xx.xxx.xx 08:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
The previous version of the template was much more organized [1] Who cares about vertical space? I've seen templates far longer than this one. The way it is now, the information is mushed together, while before there were breaks between the various sections, which helped organized the sections. El Greco( talk) 16:05, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I've moved the Top Gear of the Pops and Top Ground Gear Force from the spin-off section to the see also section. This is becasue they're not spin-offs in the sense that most people would think of - just one-off specials for a charity event. DrFrench ( talk) 18:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
My addition of TGSM as a "presenter" was reverted. OK I can accept that if he is not credited as such. How about adding TGSM as a "segment" or a "see also"? – ukexpat ( talk) 14:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
So this template overrides the default {{ navbox}} colours with a sort of aqua colour for no good reason that I can see. There's no reason to do this - the {{ navbox}} documentation explicitly states that "changing the default styles is not recommended", and I can't see that the show has any particular affinity for aqua as a colour that might suggest overriding anyway (such as happens with football team navbox colours). The override should be removed, which will simplify the template and make it more consistent with the rest of the project. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 13:06, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Should the Top Gear Race to the North be added to the "Specials" section? It was a pretty big challenge, and there's a nice detailed article about it. King Bananamoo ( talk) 18:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
the company said : the BMW 2010 it have tracktion you can't drift but here in saudi arabia we have drift and i have a vidio you can get it from the youtube and this is alink : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8-JC585m-M&feature=fvwrel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soso 08 ( talk • contribs) 02:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
I've added "Top Gear's Top 41", maybe it would be cleaner with "Top 41" instead? I've added a pre-alpha list of sequences from each episodes in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Top_Gear%27s_Top_41 since I didn't get to edit/make the wikipedia page. I'll update it when I watch the sequence 10-01, maybe later today. 41-35 may not be reprised today, I hope that somebody else keeps a eye up for the two first episodes.
Would it be useful to add something like that "Series 10 Episode 5" after each sequences as a back reference? 78.156.13.117 ( talk) 06:09, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
It's not a spin-off, not even a one time. It's clearly a Top Gear Special. Moved accordingly. Le Grand Bleu ( talk) 12:35, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Torqueing is insisting on making this edit, adding Chris Evans as a current presenter. However,the simple fact is that despite a contract being in place, Evans has not presented a single episode of Top Gear and cannot therefore be regarded as a presenter. Speculation is that new episodes of Top Gear will air in 2016 but, as of now, only Evans has been contracted. No other presenters have even been named, although there has been plenty of speculation about Jodie Kidd, but Wikipedia does not deal in speculation. Anything can happen in the next 9+ months so it's better that we wait until we have some content that doesn't mean throwing WP:CRYSTAL out the window. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 05:08, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
So now you two retarded it up last year, are you going to even bother taking Clarkson, May and Hammond out of the template? Pfft... Torqueing ( talk) 18:12, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
The Top Gear Nepal Special (Series 28) and the Top Gear Driving Home For Christmas Special (Series 31) are not listed in the "Specials" section.
Also, why is the Race to the North considered a special episode? TheIndianPianist ( talk) 23:12, 21 September 2022 (UTC)