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Here is a short list of some page subjects that I think this would be immediately useful on:
Some of these may currently only have one box, but there is a lot of information on other projects which would be of potential interest. -- Netoholic @ 19:28, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
This template was nominated for deletion, but got no consensus either way so it is kept. See Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Not deleted/July 2005 for details. It was suggested in the discussion to modify this template to resemble the Babel-templates, and to provide a way to not link to sisterprojects if they don't have relevant information for a particular article. R adiant _>|< 09:47, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
I am currently starting a sisterlinks project of my own. It happens to use the Template:Sisterlinks as well. See my template on for instance Wikiquote category:Science. The aim is more or less the same:
I could pick an other name for my template (which I will do if needed), but I noticed there is some discussion on the template on wikipedia. My proposal is to fully replace this template by mine. What is the comunities thoughts on this matter? HenkvD 17:57, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be a good idea to have a special set of smal images, like the Swedish counterpart? It looks more sophisticated (equal spaces everywhere). MartinHagberg 23:35, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
It is too long for the template - it would be nice to cut this down - perhaps just "Definitions"? WhiteNight T | @ | C 07:50, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
This template does not work properly in Opera browser. -- Haham hanuka 17:04, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Nothing I can do about this but gripe, since determined by the stylesheet, but this is very ugly. The icons are not the same height, so the lines are unevenly spaced. The box width is perversely set to vary along with the length of the lines, in such a way that some of the line items take 2 lines, and others just one. The spacing between the lines (leading) is such that the icons feel cluttered. The general effect is klutzy and disagreeable.
Since this box is now a large item that is being added to everything these days, it is becoming very prominent. One suggestion to whoever can tinker with the stylesheet, is to turn it into a longer, (i.e., wider) box, that would be placed at the foot of the entries. That would (a) give it a more streamlined, less obtrusive look; (b) solve the unequal-lines problem, at least until someone starts to expand the text in some line. . . . Bill 18:12, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Surveying the articles this has been applied to, most every use makes zero sense over the standard {{ Commonscat}} template. All this does is clutter articles with extra non-operational links. It should be modified with switches so that only the given pertinent operable links are included. // Fra nkB 03:38, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
add it to the template? -- 128.178.193.200 14:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
This template looks a bit ugly due to the addition of Wikiversity which shows up Wikinews's small logo, perhaps all the line heights should be the same? Lcarsdata 18:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Please change Image:WikiNews-Logo.svg to Image:Wikinews-logo.svg. Thanks. Siebrand 09:31, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I think the linking to Commons is useless. Can be much more usable the Category:People! Anybody agree with me? -- Beyond silence 01:04, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Someone please change redirect wikilink from [[Wikipedia:Sister projects|sister projects]] to [[Wikipedia:Wikimedia sister projects|sister projects]] in the template. Thanks. -- ALLSTAR echo 16:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
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Learning resources |
I think we should apply the same standard for this template as for disambiguation pages: Only one link per entry is enough. I don't see a compelling reason to link to the main page of each of these projects. That name can be seen from the mouseover texts ("tool tips") anyway. Also, the bold link to "sister projects" is really distracting. I propose therefore to change the template to the one to the right, which also will simplify the template overall. — Sebastian 23:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
The fundamental problem with this template is that it requires either (a) all other projects to use the same name as the Wikipedia article, or (b) requires all other projects to use some other uniform identifier. This is often not the case. Consider Parrot, for instance. The relevant link for Wikispecies and Commons is Psittaciformes, not "Parrot". For the English Wiktionary, it is parrot with a lower-case p (Wiktionary is case-sensitive, since the capital form might be a German noun, or a word in some other language). As a result, this template is not as useful as it could be. It needs to be rewritten to allow project-specific arguments for linking. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 04:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Please replace {{/doc}} with {{Documentation}} in <noinclude>. Currently, it is confusing whether the documentation is subpaged. -- 219.165.188.51 ( talk) 05:24, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
pl:Szablon:Siostrzane projekty - pl:user:Matma Rex, 83.29.146.33 ( talk) 22:19, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Given that requests are heaping up here, and nobody seems to have the time to reply to any of them, and given that this page has apparently been protected when it was transcluded in a featured article, which is not the case anymore, I will unprotect this page. — Sebastian 01:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} I've noticed this template seems to leave a lot of empty space on its righthand side; perhaps this could be resolved by placing the links on the lefthand side, the project icons down the middle and the names of each project (for folk who aren't already familiar with him and/or don't recognize the icons) on the righthand side? Sardanaphalus ( talk) 12:17, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
{{
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Please use Image:Wiktionary-logo-en.svg istead of the PNG.- 16:49, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Please switch 'Wiktionary-logo-en.png' to 'Wiktionary-logo-en.svg'. Ariel. ( talk) 03:35, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
At enwikt we seem have a lot of spurious hits from this template which cannot be remedied by changing the search term for wiktionary. The logical choices sometimes do not generate anything useful for the user. Would it be possible to add an "opt-out" parameter for an individual project? DCDuring ( talk) 01:40, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
For Wikisource, is it possible to link to the index page instead of the Search page? For example, compare Wikisource:United_States and Search/United_States. The index page is clearly much more useful. Eklipse ( talk) 11:28, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
{{editprotected}}
Please make it so when the images are clicked, instead of going to the image description page, you go to the corresponding page. You can do this by copy/pasting this:
{| class="infobox sisterproject" style="width:235px; line-height:2.25em; font-size:90%;" |- style="line-height:1.3em;" !colspan="2" align="center"| Find more about {{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}} on Wikipedia's sister projects: |- !width="37px"| [[Image:Wiktionary-logo-en.svg|25x27px|link=wikt:Special:Search/{{{wikt|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]</span> | <span title="Wiktionary">[[wikt:Special:Search/{{{wikt|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Dictionary definitions]] |- ! [[Image:Wikibooks-logo.svg|27px|link=b:Special:Search/{{{b|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]] | [[b:Special:Search/{{{b|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Textbooks]] |- ! [[Image:Wikiquote-logo.svg|23x27px|link=b:Special:Search/{{{q|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]] | [[q:Special:Search/{{{q|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Quotations]] |- ! [[Image:Wikisource-logo.svg|26x27px|link=s:Special:Search/{{{s|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]] | [[s:Special:Search/{{{s|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Source texts]] |- ! <span title="Commons">[[Image:Commons-logo.svg|19x25px|link=commons:Special:Search/{{{commons|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]</span> | [[commons:Special:Search/{{{commons|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Images and media]] |- ! {{lower|6px|[[Image:Wikinews-logo.svg|27px|link=n:Special:Search/{{{commons|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]}} | [[n:Special:Search/{{{n|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|News stories]] |- ! [[Image:Wikiversity-logo-Snorky.svg|27px|link=v:Special:Search/{{{v|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]] | [[v:Special:Search/{{{v|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Learning resources]] |- <!--! <span title="Wikispecies">[[Image:Wikispecies-logo.svg|23x27px| ]]</span> --> |}
Which would produce:
Find more about Sister project links/Archive 1 on Wikipedia's sister projects: | |
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Textbooks |
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Learning resources |
Thanks! -- penubag ( talk) 00:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
It's neat in the current form BUT many projects may be irrelevant to a particular article. Instead of the current all inclusive form, I suggest it be modified like the babel template which allows a neat rendering of multiple language links. =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:44, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
done.
I just placed {{ sisterlinks}} on the article Maize and noticed that there is no link to Wikispecies on this template, so I had to leave the {{ Wikispecies}} on the article. I was going to suggest adding it to sisterlinks then I realized that probably would not be helpfull as the Wikipedia article usually uses the common name and Wikispecies usually uses the scientific name, and sisterlinks searches by the Wikipedia article name so... Jeepday ( talk) 14:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Would it be possible to add a parameter that just changes the text in the box? I'm asking because at
Bear#Further reading the box says "Find more about bear", which sounds weird. I know that the page in every case is "bear", not "bears", but it seems to me it should read "Find more about bears".—
Chowbok
☠ 16:39, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Done There is now a "display" parameter. ~
Paul
T
+/
C
00:23, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} Can the following code replace the current code?
{| class="infobox sisterproject" style="width:235px; line-height:2.25em; font-size:90%;"
|- style="line-height:1.3em;"
!colspan="2" align="center"| Find more about {{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}} on Wikipedia's sister projects:
|-
!width="37"| [[Image:Wiktionary-logo-en.svg|25x27px|link=wikt:Special:Search/{{{wikt|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]
| [[wikt:Special:Search/{{{wikt|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Dictionary definitions]]
|-
! [[Image:Wikibooks-logo.svg|27px|link=b:Special:Search/{{{b|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]
| [[b:Special:Search/{{{b|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Textbooks]]
|-
! [[Image:Wikiquote-logo.svg|23x27px|link=b:Special:Search/{{{q|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]
| [[q:Special:Search/{{{q|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Quotations]]
|-
! [[Image:Wikisource-logo.svg|26x27px|link=s:Special:Search/{{{s|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]
| [[s:Special:Search/{{{s|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Source texts]]
|-
! [[Image:Commons-logo.svg|19x25px|link=commons:Special:Search/{{{commons|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]
| [[commons:Special:Search/{{{commons|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Images and media]]
|-
! {{lower|6px|[[Image:Wikinews-logo.svg|27px|link=n:Special:Search/{{{commons|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]}}
| [[n:Special:Search/{{{n|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|News stories]]
|-
! [[Image:Wikiversity-logo-Snorky.svg|27px|link=v:Special:Search/{{{v|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]
| [[v:Special:Search/{{{v|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Learning resources]]
|}<noinclude>
{{pp-template|small=yes}}
{{documentation}}
</noinclude>
I'd do it myself (as this is just minor maintenance and removal of old span tags and commented out portions of the removed wikispecies project), but the template is protected...
Also, would it be possible to code some of these links as optional through parameters? For example:
#ifeq:{{{wikt}}}|no| |
|-
!width="37"| [[Image:Wiktionary-logo-en.svg|25x27px|link=wikt:Special:Search/{{{wikt|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]
| [[wikt:Special:Search/{{{wikt|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Dictionary definitions]]
}}
This would omit the wiktionary sister project from the list if the parameter wikt=no. I'd code and test this for the rest of the projects, but again, the template is protected...
Also, regarding the display name (bear vs. bears above), adding an additional "display" parameter to the top like so:
Find more about {{{display|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} on Wikipedia's sister projects:
would provide this functionality... Feel free to add this as well if it works correctly. ~ Paul T +/ C 01:15, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
{{
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Please change line 5 of the current code from;
!width="37px"
to
!width="37"
'px' is invalid on an html attribute; it's only valid for css. Cheers, Jack Merridew 08:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Is there any reason why this page is protected?
I'd like to be able to make edits here without waiting for an admin to find the time to implement them. (Or ignore them as User:Casliber has...)
Can the page be semi-protected instead? ~ Paul T +/ C 14:08, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
It seems that this template has been fully protected again. Has there been some change from the above rationale? ~ Paul T +/ C 06:45, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
there needs to be an EASY way to adjust between linking to a commons page & linking to a commons category. different subjects need either/or Lx 121 ( talk) 00:00, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
It is apparent that useless whitespace is included in the template when the option to turn off links to projects (e.g. by setting |wikt=no
) is used. See
this version of the Ayn Rand article for an example. Can someone fix this? Gracias,
Skomorokh
16:37, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Currently this template is used as {{
Sisterlinks|Arnold Schwarzenegger}}
. This seems to default to linking to Wikitionary, despite Wikitionary having no results. This embarrassingly leads to a "No page found" error page. Could some suggest how this template should be correctly used to link to Quotes, News and Commons only? —
Sladen (
talk)
15:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} Add {{ nobr}} around the Wikiversity line or otherwise edit the template to prevent the word "Wikiversity" from spilling onto the next line. It's not pleasing visually. -- Cybercobra (talk) 08:38, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
width: 18em;
. That makes the box a bit wider (20 em, as defined is
MediaWiki:Common.css), so that it won't wrap (in most cases). —
Ms2ger (
talk)
10:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
{{
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Please change the incorrect {{pp-semi-template|small=yes}}
to the correct {{Pp-template|small=yes}}
.
Debresser (
talk)
01:24, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
I have posted a section in the village pump proposing a concept idea to interlink the sister projects without getting in the way (external to the articles) -- Squidonius ( talk) 16:30, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
{{
editsemiprotected}}
Please sync the template to the
most recent version of the sandbox for whitespace optimisation. Thank you.
86.41.80.244 (
talk)
06:54, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Not done: Can you explain the change in detail? Your version seems to have a ragged left margin for the text strings and changes the Wikispecies text. What is the benefit/intent? Thanks,
Celestra (
talk)
14:05, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
I have posted a proposal at the village pump on how interWikis (and portals and books) are displayed in an article. Please comment there. – VisionHolder « talk » 19:22, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Can a link to "commons category" also be added in the template to stop redirects from "Images and media from Commons" e.g. see Jesus redirecting to commons category via commons:Jesus? Or this functionality added to an alternative template? Nirvana2013 ( talk) 06:33, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
The template does NOT show a link to Wikisource anymore! The article about the Sun has no link to Wikisource and that is the problem in many (probably all) articles. -- 84.238.38.27 ( talk) 03:25, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
For some reason this template is working on tons of pages where no parameter has been specified. Isn't it supposed to work using {{PAGENAME}}? Liam987 (talk) 08:13, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I noted that a user removed {{ Commons cat}} due the concurring presence of {{ Sister project links}}. In my opinion it should not affect or discurage the use of {{ Commons category}} or {{ Commons}} because {{ Sister project links}} simply "provides links to the 'Search' page on the various Wikimedia sister projects". It does not grant that any related content actually exist, it is just a (blind) guess. {{ Commons}} and {{ Commons cat}} instead state that Wikimedia Commons actually has media related to the subject and provide a link to it. This is a precious information. It is the difference between the search function and a link. -- Basilicofresco ( msg) 15:23, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
{{
sister project links|voy...}}
as well, what needs to happen (instead of having two templates for the same siblings, one of which launches a pointless search) is that this template needs to link directly to a page whenever a pagename or category name is fed as a parameter. No reason to invoke
special:search at all if the target is already provided and in the crosshairs.
K7L (
talk)
18:54, 13 November 2012 (UTC)What about including parameters for cookbook (and Wikijunior) (with default parameter set no)? We already have a separate one for {{ cookbook}}. Thank you.··· Vanischenu 「m/ Talk」 19:29, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Now that Wikivoyage has launched, should the link to there be opt-out instead of opt-in? I've boldly made it so, but feel free to revert (and explain here) if you disagree. MER-C 10:47, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
I just made a bold edit, which changed Wikidata links from Special:Search/FooBar to Special:ItemByTitle/enwiki/FooBar. This way, the template will lead directly to a relevant WD entry if possible. Admittedly, this would be worse if there is no such entry (and therefore a totally unhelpful page linked to), but the solution is just to not include any links to WD for articles without entries. I'm open for discussion. -- YPN YPN ✡ 01:38, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Can someone explain to my why this whole template doesn't run afoul of WP:ELNO #9? The entries in the box created by this template consist only of search engine links, and ELNO#9 disallows "links to any search results pages, such as links to individual website searches, search engines, search aggregators, or RSS feeds." — David Eppstein ( talk) 18:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
It looks like other-language versions of this template, like fr:modèle:autres projets, default to all-links-off and most do *not* use blind links to Special:Search on other projects. If a destination page is explicitly specified, the template links there; if not, the template does nothing. This is an important distinction as fr: has already scrapped {{ commons category}} and the like to put everything in "autres projects" while pt: has deprecated the individual templates (and will remove them from pages with the same link in the "correlatos" box, which looks like this one but with all links off until a destination is explicity specified). We can't do that because the presence of a project in this box tells the user nothing as to whether the destination page exists. The link to Special:Search is also an SEO blunder as special: pages are flagged in robots.txt as something spiders should not index, making these hard to follow for search engines. I'm thinking there should be a version of "correlatos"/"autres projets" in en: which is not a look-alike of this template and does not link to Special:Search (but only to actual extant, usable destination pages).
I don't believe this template *can* be salvaged as it has already been randomly dumped on too many pages with no parameters at all. There should be two versions of the template; one should have "Search for {PAGENAME} in other Wikimedia projects" and do what this one is currently doing, the other should have "These wikis have more info on {PAGENAME}" and link directly to only destination pages which were explicitly specified (much like dropping {{ commons category}} on a page links directly to a named category, not a search page). Get rid of Special:Search for all instances where the destination page is already indicated (and not merely defaulted to {PAGENAME}). We already have the manually-specified name, link there.
The only place where any template should blindly link Special:Search/{PAGENAME} is if that template is called with no parameters at all.
The problem with templates which blindly invoke a search is that they're being proposed as replacements for individual links directly to projects like {{ wiktionary}} or {{ wikivoyage}}. If they neither indicate to the reader whether the destination page exists nor provide a direct link (without going through Special:Search) to get to that page, they are no substitute for the individual templates currently in use and any replacement of individual link templates with {{ sister project links}} in its current form is very inadvisable. K7L ( talk) 18:05, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
A bot request for approval for The Anonybot may affect the usage of this template. Feel free to discuss there. The Anonymouse ( talk | contribs) 08:18, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
I think the way Wikivoyage is handled in this template is inappropriate. Only 3 sister sites are automatically omitted unless manually added: Wikidata, Wikispecies and Wikivoyage.
But Wikivoyage? There's really no valid reason.
It could be said that we shouldn't add links to a travel guide from an article on say, a person. But then there's an inconsistent approach. You don't "define" people in a dictionary (Wiktionary). You can't have "quotations" by a building (Wikiquote). You can't have up-to-date "news" on an event that took place 100 years ago (Wikinews). There shouldn't be a double standard. I believe that Wikivoyage should be automatically included in the template, like most of the other fairly low-traffic projects. It's pretty clear to people when a travel guide is and isn't relevant. It will also save Wikivoyage and Wikipedia editors having to go through tens of thousands of location articles adding voy=location
. Regards,
JamesA
>talk
07:30, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
voy=no
, just like you can do for any other sister project. While Wikivoyage is irrelevant to medical topics, it is the same situation with other sister sites with so many other topics. The only way this can be circumvented is addition of the "no" tag. As I said, I don't think it's far to auto-include other sites which are often irrelevant, yet exclude Wikivoyage. As a means of removing irrelevant links, we could always run a bot or use AWB to mark all "people" articles (using categories) as voy=no
, therefore reducing a lot of unneeded links. This could be done with any other categories people can think of.
JamesA
>talk
12:33, 8 February 2013 (UTC)Yes I guess. I typically do not add the full sister link template do to that reason :-) Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 18:19, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Done - I've also changed the wording so that when "voy" is defined on destination articles, it will be Travel guide, and when "voy" is not defined on articles like
Abraham Lincoln, it will be Travel information. Makes a bit more sense. I will also go through with AWB when I get a chance and remove instances where Wikivoyage will never be useful, and encourage others to do so using
voy=no
JamesA
>talk
07:48, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Why is Special:Search being called for links where the destination has already explicitly been manually specified? One example: Adelaide#External links has {{Sister project links|voy=Adelaide|Adelaide}} pointing to voy:Special:Search/Adelaide instead of directly to voy:Adelaide. Launching this sort of unnecessary search will cause problems for Google-style spiders as they're normally told not to index links to special pages. K7L ( talk) 01:47, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
[[commons:Special:Search/{{{commons|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Media]] from Commons
should be [[commons:{{{commons|{{{1|Special:Search/{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Media]] from Commons
(with the same change to each of the others) so the Special:Search kludge is only used when trying to "guess" the destination by using the name of the current page.
K7L (
talk)
17:14, 12 February 2013 (UTC)Shouldn't the sentence at the top of the template read "Find out more ..." rather than "Find more ..."? It Is Me Here t / c 23:27, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi, after a suggestion I try to create a similar template on Wikiquote, see here. Can somebody please explain, why it doesn't work on Wikiquote like here on Wikipedia? -- Mdd ( talk) 19:00, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
It seems my bold edit to set the default to no was reverted, as I was unaware of earlier consensus to have it enabled. I believe it should be off, as other transclusions before this option existed did not know about this option, and having it on by default now has the link in a lot of articles where it is not applicable. Regardless of whether the other options that are enabled are worthy of their default setting, at least an editor could manually disable them when they added the template and saw the unwanted option(s). In the case of older additions of "Sister project links", is anyone signing up to fix any of the 4000+ transclusions. This breaks the concept of backwards compatability, where old settings with new template functionality is not providing same display anymore.— Bagumba ( talk) 09:40, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
voy=
is not used, it says "Travel information" rather than "Travel guide". I don't see any particular harm from the current default; everything takes time and the voy=no
can be done gradually. Already, I have had a go with AWB at removing some irrelevant Wikivoyage links, though I believe the task is better done by everyday users as they come across them. Is the default causing any display issues or irregularities?
JamesA
>talk
04:05, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
voy=no
to pages with no sister page on Wikivoyage? (The bot would have to be able to check the Wikivoyage API or something similar to do this but I think its technically possible.) That leaves Wikivoyage in a equitable position for all future uses of this template, in which cases users will know about the project and can do this manually if needs be, without having to deal with the cludge of blocking it to maintain backwards compatibility. Itineraries etc remain a possibility for the future in many of these articles, at least. -
AdamBMorgan (
talk)
00:53, 28 March 2013 (UTC)I've been an editor on Wikiversity since 2006 and can tell you firsthand that it has never matured into a truly useful sister project. It's never had a large community of editors and a lot of the content there is now generated by people who have been banned from other projects (e.g. fringe science POV-pushers and other crackpots). A large percentage of the pages are just unfinished stubs with no useful content [1] [2] or no content at all [3] [4]. Wikiversity pretty much never deletes anything, so it has gradually become filled with cruft. I don't really think we're doing our readers any favors by sending them there. At the very least it should be put at the bottom of the list. Thoughts? Kaldari ( talk) 19:54, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
I
changed the template so that if voy=
is unspecified, the default depends on Wikidata. If
Property:P107 is "geographical feature", Wikivoyage is shown by default. Otherwise, it isn't.
This still makes some mistakes (for example, buildings would receive a Wikivoyage link), but it should clear up almost everything. The link is gone from Hamlet. :-) Ypnypn ( talk) 19:35, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
{{#ifexpr:
with or
to avoid the duplication, but apparently it can only deal with numbers. This can certainly be Lua-ified; if you want to, go ahead. --
Ypnypn (
talk)
17:58, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
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Images should have an alt text. According to WP:ALT, the only situation where blank alt text is acceptable is where purely decorative images are unlinked. This article displays two icons. A minimal alt text could be added; the Main Page has "Commons" and "Wikiversity" for these icons. 84.127.80.114 ( talk) 19:37, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
These are the suggested changes. 84.127.80.114 ( talk) 23:01, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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Two items:
{{
edit template-protected}}
is usually not required for edits to the documentation, categories, or interlanguage links of templates using a
documentation subpage. Use the 'edit' link at the top of the green "Template documentation" box to edit the documentation subpage.
APerson (
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20:42, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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See the comments above. Please add the image for Wikivoyage to the finished template image. – S. Rich ( talk) 05:59, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
{{#if:...
function, and I was going to see if I could use tags to make that code work so that the VOY would appear in the template. If you'll take a look at that code, maybe you can tell if all that's necessary or not:|- style="height:25px;" {{#if:{{{voy|}}} |{{#ifeq:{{{voy|}}}|no | | {{!}} [[File:Wikivoyage-Logo-v3-icon.svg|25x25px|link={{fullurl:voy:{{{voy|Special:Search/{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}}}|Search Wikivoyage]] {{!}} [[voy:{{{voy|Special:Search/{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Travel {{#if: {{{voy|}}}| guide| information}}]] from Wikivoyage }} |{{#ifeq:{{#property:P107}}|geographical feature | {{!}} [[File:Wikivoyage-Logo-v3-icon.svg|25x25px|link={{fullurl:voy:{{{voy|Special:Search/{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}}}|Search Wikivoyage]] {{!}} [[voy:{{{voy|Special:Search/{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Travel {{#if: {{{voy|}}}| guide| information}}]] from Wikivoyage }} }}
|voy=
is set, even if the Wikidata property doesn't have the right value. It's become a little more complicated, but
this should do the trick without having to specify the actual Wikivoyage link more than once. —
Mr. Stradivarius
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13:17, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
To editor
Mr. Stradivarius: It appears that the documentation is still up to date; however, I see one thing that may be of concern. In the
Default display section resides:
However,
voy
only displays by default if the
entity type on Wikidata is "geographical feature".
That link is to Wikidata page
d:Property:P107, which has been titled "(OBSOLETE) main type (GND) (P107)", and is further described:
** Do not use ** Due to be deleted. Please use instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279)
I'm not sure if we should stay with that page or if there is a better link, such as
d:Property:P31,
d:Property:P279, or perhaps even
d:Geographical object ("feature" on en wiki). Can you provide guidance? –
Paine
16:45, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Don't you think that we should add simple.wikipedia to the template? OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 03:36, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
I've added a link for taxonomic authors who have pages on Wikispecies; see, for example, Charles Darwin. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:06, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
Can I ask, why does the wikinews link appear to be hidden by default? I notice previous conversations about wikivoyage focusing on the number of location articles that would need to have this revealed. There are at least as many equivalent pages on wikinews, so not sure why it might be treated differently. CSJJ104 ( talk) 20:57, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
n=yes
parameter, correct? Editors who feel that it is needed to accompany another sister link can use that parameter, can't they? –
Paine Ellsworth
CLIMAX!
18:52, 10 September 2014 (UTC)To editors
CSJJ104,
FDMS4 and
Pi zero: Been at work on another issue (voy=) and started browsing around the n=yes parameter a bit, and frankly, I liked what I saw. Wikinews has come a long way, and we really should seriously consider making n=yes the default. I realize from the above discourse that this idea is still controversial, so I would not make Wikinews the default without due discussion process. I really do think that the plusses outweigh the minuses at this present point (heaven knows Wikipedia isn't quite perfect, yet) and would like to open an RfC if nobody objects vehemently.
–
Paine Ellsworth
CLIMAX!
02:31, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
To editors CSJJ104, FDMS4 and Pi zero: Okay then, I have started an RfC here. Please feel welcome to come and add your rationales. – Paine 05:25, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
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Could someone integrate it with Wikidata entries? A good example is in {{ Authority control}}. -- Rezonansowy ( talk • contribs) 13:26, 2 March 2014 (UTC
When should the Wikidata link be turned "on" when this template is used? Doesn't every (or almost every) Wikipedia article have a corresponding Wikidata page (in which case the link should be on by default)? Please place some guidance in the documentation for this template.
When turning on the Wikidata link, since is is not shown by default, I put "d=yes"; however, the link is then displayed as "Database entry Yes on Wikidata". When I put the number of the WD page, it displayed as "Database entry Q15908324 on Wikidata". Also, should the WD attribute use the name of the page or the page ID? I came across this issue adding this template to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the corresponding WD page is [6], which is titled "Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (Q15908324)" and uses "Q15908324" in the address bar. So, should the link be made to "Malaysia Airlines Flight 370" or "Q15908324"? Using the wikilink d:Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 doesn't work, but d:Q15908324 does...so I assume the latter is the page name? AHeneen ( talk) 02:13, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Every article on Wikipedia already includes a link to Wikidata in the sidebar ("Wikidata item"). There is no reason to add a redundant link in the External links section. Kaldari ( talk) 20:41, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
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Since no one has objected to the proposal (and it's been a few weeks), I would like to request that the template be edited to remove the Wikidata parameter. The template sandbox has already been edited to reflect this change. Kaldari ( talk) 07:58, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
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08:07, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
I wonder if there is any chance to adjust the template, so the introductory text would be set to three lines, i.e.
To explain, in most cases now the names result in appearing in two separate lines with first names of authors being displayed at the end of the first, while their surnames at the beginning of the second line, for a change (see an example). Would not be more efficient to adjust it as mentioned, or to simplify the general text at least to only
MiewEN ( talk) 12:31, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Current sequence of params (ready for copy/paste):
{{Sister project links | 1= | display= | author= | wikt= | commons= | n= | q= | s= | b= | voy= | v= | d= | species= | species_author= | m= | mw= }}
Proposed sequence of params:
{{Sister project links | 1= | display= | author= | b= | commons= | d= | m= | mw= | n= | q= | s= | species= | species_author= | v= | voy= | wikt= }}
An alphabetical order makes some more sense. First three (non-sisters) stay there. - DePiep ( talk) 18:19, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that, at San Diego–Tijuana, the commons link that the template provides is a search on "San Diego–Tijuana", which yields San Diego–Tijuana, a page with 3 photos.
What it should do is link to the parent Category:San Diego–Tijuana, with about 10 subcats plus 20 or so loose photos. A casual user won't realize this is available. There must be a way to link the parent category, but it wasn't obvious (to me) in the template documentation. -- Pete Tillman ( talk) 01:47, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
commons:Category:San Diego–Tijuana
in the template. I don't know why or how that's not clear, though: you can choose any link that you want from any parameter... —
Justin (koavf)❤
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06:21, 18 November 2014 (UTC)Is there a way to integrate Template:Commons and category into this template? For my project on Briarcliff Manor, I want to link to the Commons gallery and category using this template; at the time I can only choose on or the other. Can the above-mentioned template's "(category)" part be added to this template? Thanks.-- ɱ (talk · vbm) 07:48, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
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Please add class=noviewer to all images so that they don't appear in media viewer. This is discussed at Wikipedia talk:Media Viewer#Some images need to be excluded and it has already been done at Template talk:Portal#edit protected November 21 2014 where it's already been done. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 06:31, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
metadata
class, and all images have |link=
set so Media Viewer is never invoked. -- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
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16:36, 11 December 2014 (UTC){{
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template. — {{U|
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World War II#mediaviewer/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_141-1880,_Peenemünde,_Start_einer_V2.jpg
. I oppose this change as it is unneeded. — {{U|
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Hi guys!
There is a missing sister project, Wikipedia:book:PAGE
On
Anthropology there is such a book. It would be tidier if the book went into the sister project link box. It means adding a letter to the parameter list. Can do?
Botteville (
talk)
01:24, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
{{
Wikipedia books}}
template) in its "External links" section, which displays a link to
Book:Anthropology. As noted above, this page is in the
Book namespace within Wikipedia, and is not part of a separate
sister project. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
08:07, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
I suggest a new parameter for the template, to be named commonscat
or something like this, with possible values yes
or no
, in order to automatically add prefix Category:
to the commons link if yes
, since frequently there is a need to write it manually. The template already has similar parameter, author
, which adds an Author:
prefix to the Wikisource link.--
ɴõɴəχүsƚ
16:31, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
commons=Category:X
and achieve the same result, right? —
Justin (koavf)❤
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02:45, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
commonscat=yes
than commons=Category:X
. For the same purposes, we have separate templates, {{
commons}} and {{
commons category}}, and author
parameter in this template, so I think it would be fine to make some uniformity.--
ɴõɴəχүsƚ
11:26, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
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11:39, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
|commons=
was changed to |c=
at the same time, possibly breaking many articles. Was this change intended? -- [[
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08:28, 21 April 2015 (UTC)|c=
or add it as an alternative to |commons=
or revert this whole change until someone wants to figure it out. –
czar
21:53, 13 May 2015 (UTC)c
and commons
should be identical in the
interwiki map... —
Justin (koavf)❤
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02:05, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
|commons=
, and only |c=
after your edit, while the previous was still in wide use. It should have accepted both. -- [[
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08:01, 14 May 2015 (UTC)Why is there no part of this template that says " Travel guides from Wikivoyage"? Can that be added? SarrCat ∑;3 05:37, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
|voy=
parameter. See for example
Paris#External links. --
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09:24, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
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For the Wikivoyage link, this template is checking Wikidata for d:Property:P107, which has been deleted over there - so it should probably be removed from this template's code - Evad37 [ talk 11:17, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
{{#ifeq:{{#property:P107}}|geographical feature|true|false}}
- should that be replaced with an explicit true
or an explicit false
? --
Redrose64 (
talk)
15:08, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
Using {{wikimedia|collapsible=true}}, when I click on a sister site I don't want it to look for the whole article name, but only for a portion of it.
On James Bond (disambiguation) I only want it to search on James Bond.
What are the parameters/switches/values I need to use? Thank you. Checkingfax ( talk) 14:28, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
{{
wikimedia|James Bond}}
--
Redrose64 (
talk)
22:25, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
{{wikimedia|James Bond|commonscat=no|collapsible=true}}
Checkingfax (
talk)
01:10, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
|commonscat=no
parameter does nothing, and may be omitted. However, if it were |commonscat=yes
it would modify the links in the Commons row, from
c:Special:Search/James Bond to
c:Special:Search/Category:James Bond. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
09:48, 24 September 2015 (UTC)Parameter documentation needed instead for template {{
wikimedia}}
. I was redirected here. Thank you. Cheers! {{u|
Checkingfax}} {
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07:29, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
The link from this template to Wiktionry states "Definitions from Wiktionary".
That is an extremely narrow description of what Wiktionary provides. The entries at Wiktionary also provide an etymology, IPA pronunciation, pronunciation audio files, rhyming words, historical and variant spellings, inflection or conjugation, usage information, dated historical citations, etymologically related terms, synonyms, antonyms, anagrams, translations into other languages, and more. (See wikt:parrot for an example of what Wiktionary actually provides in an entry.)
So, saying "Definitions from Wiktionary" is rather demeaning of that project. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 01:29, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Note: I posted a link here at the Village Pump seeking more comment. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 15:17, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Almost five months--still no decision and no action. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 23:31, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Nine months now. Babies have been born who were conceived when this discussion started, yet still no action has been taken. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 04:48, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
This thread is waiting for a response after more than a year. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 17:07, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
The Village Pump post puts eyes and ears on the page, while the list of options gives people something concrete to comment on. If there is clear agreement after that discussion, use the {{ edit protected}} template to request an administrator or template editor to make the change. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 20:48, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
I've added this great template on cywiki, (Nodyn:Wicimedia / {{wikimedia}}) as you can see on the w:cy:Microcephaly article. I would like to see visible only those projects which actually do include a reference to Microcephaly; in this case, only WP and WD. This could then be added (in theory) to all 60,000 cy articles. As it stands it entices the reader to click on links which do not exist, which is not good. Many thanks. Llywelyn2000 ( talk) 16:25, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
I recently added three of this template to one article ( no longer included), because three terms potentially had links. Since the template automatically aligns to the right edge of the page, the result was that all three formed into a tall column that resulted in vast space to the left being empty. That's a bad layout. An option to allow side-by-side positioning would help. I don't know how to do that. Nick Levinson ( talk) 20:03, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
{{
stack}}
, like this:5 July version of Template:Sister project links/sandbox and /testcases
Working on an edit to improve this template for screen reader and keyboard users. Mostly minor or invisible (to most users) edits. With one big exception — the icon links.
How important is it for the icons to be linked? Removing the icon link reduces the tab key presses to navigate the list from two to one per item, and eliminates repetitive speech. On the other hand, there are probably users who'd rather click the icon than the text. As a third option, it might be possible to combine the image and text into a single link by inserting a CSS pseudo-element, but it'd be tricky. Matt Fitzpatrick ( talk) 12:12, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
There is an important discussion at Commons here concerning the fact that this template may lead visitors to galleries. Please have a look and share your thoughts. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 23:41, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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Archive 1 | Archive 2 |
Here is a short list of some page subjects that I think this would be immediately useful on:
Some of these may currently only have one box, but there is a lot of information on other projects which would be of potential interest. -- Netoholic @ 19:28, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
This template was nominated for deletion, but got no consensus either way so it is kept. See Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Not deleted/July 2005 for details. It was suggested in the discussion to modify this template to resemble the Babel-templates, and to provide a way to not link to sisterprojects if they don't have relevant information for a particular article. R adiant _>|< 09:47, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
I am currently starting a sisterlinks project of my own. It happens to use the Template:Sisterlinks as well. See my template on for instance Wikiquote category:Science. The aim is more or less the same:
I could pick an other name for my template (which I will do if needed), but I noticed there is some discussion on the template on wikipedia. My proposal is to fully replace this template by mine. What is the comunities thoughts on this matter? HenkvD 17:57, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be a good idea to have a special set of smal images, like the Swedish counterpart? It looks more sophisticated (equal spaces everywhere). MartinHagberg 23:35, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
It is too long for the template - it would be nice to cut this down - perhaps just "Definitions"? WhiteNight T | @ | C 07:50, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
This template does not work properly in Opera browser. -- Haham hanuka 17:04, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Nothing I can do about this but gripe, since determined by the stylesheet, but this is very ugly. The icons are not the same height, so the lines are unevenly spaced. The box width is perversely set to vary along with the length of the lines, in such a way that some of the line items take 2 lines, and others just one. The spacing between the lines (leading) is such that the icons feel cluttered. The general effect is klutzy and disagreeable.
Since this box is now a large item that is being added to everything these days, it is becoming very prominent. One suggestion to whoever can tinker with the stylesheet, is to turn it into a longer, (i.e., wider) box, that would be placed at the foot of the entries. That would (a) give it a more streamlined, less obtrusive look; (b) solve the unequal-lines problem, at least until someone starts to expand the text in some line. . . . Bill 18:12, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Surveying the articles this has been applied to, most every use makes zero sense over the standard {{ Commonscat}} template. All this does is clutter articles with extra non-operational links. It should be modified with switches so that only the given pertinent operable links are included. // Fra nkB 03:38, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
add it to the template? -- 128.178.193.200 14:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
This template looks a bit ugly due to the addition of Wikiversity which shows up Wikinews's small logo, perhaps all the line heights should be the same? Lcarsdata 18:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Please change Image:WikiNews-Logo.svg to Image:Wikinews-logo.svg. Thanks. Siebrand 09:31, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I think the linking to Commons is useless. Can be much more usable the Category:People! Anybody agree with me? -- Beyond silence 01:04, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Someone please change redirect wikilink from [[Wikipedia:Sister projects|sister projects]] to [[Wikipedia:Wikimedia sister projects|sister projects]] in the template. Thanks. -- ALLSTAR echo 16:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
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I think we should apply the same standard for this template as for disambiguation pages: Only one link per entry is enough. I don't see a compelling reason to link to the main page of each of these projects. That name can be seen from the mouseover texts ("tool tips") anyway. Also, the bold link to "sister projects" is really distracting. I propose therefore to change the template to the one to the right, which also will simplify the template overall. — Sebastian 23:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
The fundamental problem with this template is that it requires either (a) all other projects to use the same name as the Wikipedia article, or (b) requires all other projects to use some other uniform identifier. This is often not the case. Consider Parrot, for instance. The relevant link for Wikispecies and Commons is Psittaciformes, not "Parrot". For the English Wiktionary, it is parrot with a lower-case p (Wiktionary is case-sensitive, since the capital form might be a German noun, or a word in some other language). As a result, this template is not as useful as it could be. It needs to be rewritten to allow project-specific arguments for linking. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 04:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Please replace {{/doc}} with {{Documentation}} in <noinclude>. Currently, it is confusing whether the documentation is subpaged. -- 219.165.188.51 ( talk) 05:24, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
pl:Szablon:Siostrzane projekty - pl:user:Matma Rex, 83.29.146.33 ( talk) 22:19, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Given that requests are heaping up here, and nobody seems to have the time to reply to any of them, and given that this page has apparently been protected when it was transcluded in a featured article, which is not the case anymore, I will unprotect this page. — Sebastian 01:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} I've noticed this template seems to leave a lot of empty space on its righthand side; perhaps this could be resolved by placing the links on the lefthand side, the project icons down the middle and the names of each project (for folk who aren't already familiar with him and/or don't recognize the icons) on the righthand side? Sardanaphalus ( talk) 12:17, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
{{
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Please use Image:Wiktionary-logo-en.svg istead of the PNG.- 16:49, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Please switch 'Wiktionary-logo-en.png' to 'Wiktionary-logo-en.svg'. Ariel. ( talk) 03:35, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
At enwikt we seem have a lot of spurious hits from this template which cannot be remedied by changing the search term for wiktionary. The logical choices sometimes do not generate anything useful for the user. Would it be possible to add an "opt-out" parameter for an individual project? DCDuring ( talk) 01:40, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
For Wikisource, is it possible to link to the index page instead of the Search page? For example, compare Wikisource:United_States and Search/United_States. The index page is clearly much more useful. Eklipse ( talk) 11:28, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
{{editprotected}}
Please make it so when the images are clicked, instead of going to the image description page, you go to the corresponding page. You can do this by copy/pasting this:
{| class="infobox sisterproject" style="width:235px; line-height:2.25em; font-size:90%;" |- style="line-height:1.3em;" !colspan="2" align="center"| Find more about {{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}} on Wikipedia's sister projects: |- !width="37px"| [[Image:Wiktionary-logo-en.svg|25x27px|link=wikt:Special:Search/{{{wikt|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]</span> | <span title="Wiktionary">[[wikt:Special:Search/{{{wikt|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Dictionary definitions]] |- ! [[Image:Wikibooks-logo.svg|27px|link=b:Special:Search/{{{b|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]] | [[b:Special:Search/{{{b|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Textbooks]] |- ! [[Image:Wikiquote-logo.svg|23x27px|link=b:Special:Search/{{{q|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]] | [[q:Special:Search/{{{q|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Quotations]] |- ! [[Image:Wikisource-logo.svg|26x27px|link=s:Special:Search/{{{s|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]] | [[s:Special:Search/{{{s|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Source texts]] |- ! <span title="Commons">[[Image:Commons-logo.svg|19x25px|link=commons:Special:Search/{{{commons|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]</span> | [[commons:Special:Search/{{{commons|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Images and media]] |- ! {{lower|6px|[[Image:Wikinews-logo.svg|27px|link=n:Special:Search/{{{commons|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]}} | [[n:Special:Search/{{{n|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|News stories]] |- ! [[Image:Wikiversity-logo-Snorky.svg|27px|link=v:Special:Search/{{{v|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]] | [[v:Special:Search/{{{v|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Learning resources]] |- <!--! <span title="Wikispecies">[[Image:Wikispecies-logo.svg|23x27px| ]]</span> --> |}
Which would produce:
Find more about Sister project links/Archive 1 on Wikipedia's sister projects: | |
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Textbooks |
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Learning resources |
Thanks! -- penubag ( talk) 00:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
It's neat in the current form BUT many projects may be irrelevant to a particular article. Instead of the current all inclusive form, I suggest it be modified like the babel template which allows a neat rendering of multiple language links. =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:44, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
done.
I just placed {{ sisterlinks}} on the article Maize and noticed that there is no link to Wikispecies on this template, so I had to leave the {{ Wikispecies}} on the article. I was going to suggest adding it to sisterlinks then I realized that probably would not be helpfull as the Wikipedia article usually uses the common name and Wikispecies usually uses the scientific name, and sisterlinks searches by the Wikipedia article name so... Jeepday ( talk) 14:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Would it be possible to add a parameter that just changes the text in the box? I'm asking because at
Bear#Further reading the box says "Find more about bear", which sounds weird. I know that the page in every case is "bear", not "bears", but it seems to me it should read "Find more about bears".—
Chowbok
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Done There is now a "display" parameter. ~
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{{ editprotected}} Can the following code replace the current code?
{| class="infobox sisterproject" style="width:235px; line-height:2.25em; font-size:90%;"
|- style="line-height:1.3em;"
!colspan="2" align="center"| Find more about {{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}} on Wikipedia's sister projects:
|-
!width="37"| [[Image:Wiktionary-logo-en.svg|25x27px|link=wikt:Special:Search/{{{wikt|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]
| [[wikt:Special:Search/{{{wikt|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Dictionary definitions]]
|-
! [[Image:Wikibooks-logo.svg|27px|link=b:Special:Search/{{{b|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]
| [[b:Special:Search/{{{b|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Textbooks]]
|-
! [[Image:Wikiquote-logo.svg|23x27px|link=b:Special:Search/{{{q|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]
| [[q:Special:Search/{{{q|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Quotations]]
|-
! [[Image:Wikisource-logo.svg|26x27px|link=s:Special:Search/{{{s|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]
| [[s:Special:Search/{{{s|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Source texts]]
|-
! [[Image:Commons-logo.svg|19x25px|link=commons:Special:Search/{{{commons|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]
| [[commons:Special:Search/{{{commons|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Images and media]]
|-
! {{lower|6px|[[Image:Wikinews-logo.svg|27px|link=n:Special:Search/{{{commons|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]}}
| [[n:Special:Search/{{{n|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|News stories]]
|-
! [[Image:Wikiversity-logo-Snorky.svg|27px|link=v:Special:Search/{{{v|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]
| [[v:Special:Search/{{{v|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Learning resources]]
|}<noinclude>
{{pp-template|small=yes}}
{{documentation}}
</noinclude>
I'd do it myself (as this is just minor maintenance and removal of old span tags and commented out portions of the removed wikispecies project), but the template is protected...
Also, would it be possible to code some of these links as optional through parameters? For example:
#ifeq:{{{wikt}}}|no| |
|-
!width="37"| [[Image:Wiktionary-logo-en.svg|25x27px|link=wikt:Special:Search/{{{wikt|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} ]]
| [[wikt:Special:Search/{{{wikt|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Dictionary definitions]]
}}
This would omit the wiktionary sister project from the list if the parameter wikt=no. I'd code and test this for the rest of the projects, but again, the template is protected...
Also, regarding the display name (bear vs. bears above), adding an additional "display" parameter to the top like so:
Find more about {{{display|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}} on Wikipedia's sister projects:
would provide this functionality... Feel free to add this as well if it works correctly. ~ Paul T +/ C 01:15, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
{{
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Please change line 5 of the current code from;
!width="37px"
to
!width="37"
'px' is invalid on an html attribute; it's only valid for css. Cheers, Jack Merridew 08:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Is there any reason why this page is protected?
I'd like to be able to make edits here without waiting for an admin to find the time to implement them. (Or ignore them as User:Casliber has...)
Can the page be semi-protected instead? ~ Paul T +/ C 14:08, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
It seems that this template has been fully protected again. Has there been some change from the above rationale? ~ Paul T +/ C 06:45, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
there needs to be an EASY way to adjust between linking to a commons page & linking to a commons category. different subjects need either/or Lx 121 ( talk) 00:00, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
It is apparent that useless whitespace is included in the template when the option to turn off links to projects (e.g. by setting |wikt=no
) is used. See
this version of the Ayn Rand article for an example. Can someone fix this? Gracias,
Skomorokh
16:37, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Currently this template is used as {{
Sisterlinks|Arnold Schwarzenegger}}
. This seems to default to linking to Wikitionary, despite Wikitionary having no results. This embarrassingly leads to a "No page found" error page. Could some suggest how this template should be correctly used to link to Quotes, News and Commons only? —
Sladen (
talk)
15:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} Add {{ nobr}} around the Wikiversity line or otherwise edit the template to prevent the word "Wikiversity" from spilling onto the next line. It's not pleasing visually. -- Cybercobra (talk) 08:38, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
width: 18em;
. That makes the box a bit wider (20 em, as defined is
MediaWiki:Common.css), so that it won't wrap (in most cases). —
Ms2ger (
talk)
10:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Please change the incorrect {{pp-semi-template|small=yes}}
to the correct {{Pp-template|small=yes}}
.
Debresser (
talk)
01:24, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
I have posted a section in the village pump proposing a concept idea to interlink the sister projects without getting in the way (external to the articles) -- Squidonius ( talk) 16:30, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
{{
editsemiprotected}}
Please sync the template to the
most recent version of the sandbox for whitespace optimisation. Thank you.
86.41.80.244 (
talk)
06:54, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Not done: Can you explain the change in detail? Your version seems to have a ragged left margin for the text strings and changes the Wikispecies text. What is the benefit/intent? Thanks,
Celestra (
talk)
14:05, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
I have posted a proposal at the village pump on how interWikis (and portals and books) are displayed in an article. Please comment there. – VisionHolder « talk » 19:22, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Can a link to "commons category" also be added in the template to stop redirects from "Images and media from Commons" e.g. see Jesus redirecting to commons category via commons:Jesus? Or this functionality added to an alternative template? Nirvana2013 ( talk) 06:33, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
The template does NOT show a link to Wikisource anymore! The article about the Sun has no link to Wikisource and that is the problem in many (probably all) articles. -- 84.238.38.27 ( talk) 03:25, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
For some reason this template is working on tons of pages where no parameter has been specified. Isn't it supposed to work using {{PAGENAME}}? Liam987 (talk) 08:13, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I noted that a user removed {{ Commons cat}} due the concurring presence of {{ Sister project links}}. In my opinion it should not affect or discurage the use of {{ Commons category}} or {{ Commons}} because {{ Sister project links}} simply "provides links to the 'Search' page on the various Wikimedia sister projects". It does not grant that any related content actually exist, it is just a (blind) guess. {{ Commons}} and {{ Commons cat}} instead state that Wikimedia Commons actually has media related to the subject and provide a link to it. This is a precious information. It is the difference between the search function and a link. -- Basilicofresco ( msg) 15:23, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
{{
sister project links|voy...}}
as well, what needs to happen (instead of having two templates for the same siblings, one of which launches a pointless search) is that this template needs to link directly to a page whenever a pagename or category name is fed as a parameter. No reason to invoke
special:search at all if the target is already provided and in the crosshairs.
K7L (
talk)
18:54, 13 November 2012 (UTC)What about including parameters for cookbook (and Wikijunior) (with default parameter set no)? We already have a separate one for {{ cookbook}}. Thank you.··· Vanischenu 「m/ Talk」 19:29, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Now that Wikivoyage has launched, should the link to there be opt-out instead of opt-in? I've boldly made it so, but feel free to revert (and explain here) if you disagree. MER-C 10:47, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
I just made a bold edit, which changed Wikidata links from Special:Search/FooBar to Special:ItemByTitle/enwiki/FooBar. This way, the template will lead directly to a relevant WD entry if possible. Admittedly, this would be worse if there is no such entry (and therefore a totally unhelpful page linked to), but the solution is just to not include any links to WD for articles without entries. I'm open for discussion. -- YPN YPN ✡ 01:38, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Can someone explain to my why this whole template doesn't run afoul of WP:ELNO #9? The entries in the box created by this template consist only of search engine links, and ELNO#9 disallows "links to any search results pages, such as links to individual website searches, search engines, search aggregators, or RSS feeds." — David Eppstein ( talk) 18:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
It looks like other-language versions of this template, like fr:modèle:autres projets, default to all-links-off and most do *not* use blind links to Special:Search on other projects. If a destination page is explicitly specified, the template links there; if not, the template does nothing. This is an important distinction as fr: has already scrapped {{ commons category}} and the like to put everything in "autres projects" while pt: has deprecated the individual templates (and will remove them from pages with the same link in the "correlatos" box, which looks like this one but with all links off until a destination is explicity specified). We can't do that because the presence of a project in this box tells the user nothing as to whether the destination page exists. The link to Special:Search is also an SEO blunder as special: pages are flagged in robots.txt as something spiders should not index, making these hard to follow for search engines. I'm thinking there should be a version of "correlatos"/"autres projets" in en: which is not a look-alike of this template and does not link to Special:Search (but only to actual extant, usable destination pages).
I don't believe this template *can* be salvaged as it has already been randomly dumped on too many pages with no parameters at all. There should be two versions of the template; one should have "Search for {PAGENAME} in other Wikimedia projects" and do what this one is currently doing, the other should have "These wikis have more info on {PAGENAME}" and link directly to only destination pages which were explicitly specified (much like dropping {{ commons category}} on a page links directly to a named category, not a search page). Get rid of Special:Search for all instances where the destination page is already indicated (and not merely defaulted to {PAGENAME}). We already have the manually-specified name, link there.
The only place where any template should blindly link Special:Search/{PAGENAME} is if that template is called with no parameters at all.
The problem with templates which blindly invoke a search is that they're being proposed as replacements for individual links directly to projects like {{ wiktionary}} or {{ wikivoyage}}. If they neither indicate to the reader whether the destination page exists nor provide a direct link (without going through Special:Search) to get to that page, they are no substitute for the individual templates currently in use and any replacement of individual link templates with {{ sister project links}} in its current form is very inadvisable. K7L ( talk) 18:05, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
A bot request for approval for The Anonybot may affect the usage of this template. Feel free to discuss there. The Anonymouse ( talk | contribs) 08:18, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
I think the way Wikivoyage is handled in this template is inappropriate. Only 3 sister sites are automatically omitted unless manually added: Wikidata, Wikispecies and Wikivoyage.
But Wikivoyage? There's really no valid reason.
It could be said that we shouldn't add links to a travel guide from an article on say, a person. But then there's an inconsistent approach. You don't "define" people in a dictionary (Wiktionary). You can't have "quotations" by a building (Wikiquote). You can't have up-to-date "news" on an event that took place 100 years ago (Wikinews). There shouldn't be a double standard. I believe that Wikivoyage should be automatically included in the template, like most of the other fairly low-traffic projects. It's pretty clear to people when a travel guide is and isn't relevant. It will also save Wikivoyage and Wikipedia editors having to go through tens of thousands of location articles adding voy=location
. Regards,
JamesA
>talk
07:30, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
voy=no
, just like you can do for any other sister project. While Wikivoyage is irrelevant to medical topics, it is the same situation with other sister sites with so many other topics. The only way this can be circumvented is addition of the "no" tag. As I said, I don't think it's far to auto-include other sites which are often irrelevant, yet exclude Wikivoyage. As a means of removing irrelevant links, we could always run a bot or use AWB to mark all "people" articles (using categories) as voy=no
, therefore reducing a lot of unneeded links. This could be done with any other categories people can think of.
JamesA
>talk
12:33, 8 February 2013 (UTC)Yes I guess. I typically do not add the full sister link template do to that reason :-) Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 18:19, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Done - I've also changed the wording so that when "voy" is defined on destination articles, it will be Travel guide, and when "voy" is not defined on articles like
Abraham Lincoln, it will be Travel information. Makes a bit more sense. I will also go through with AWB when I get a chance and remove instances where Wikivoyage will never be useful, and encourage others to do so using
voy=no
JamesA
>talk
07:48, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Why is Special:Search being called for links where the destination has already explicitly been manually specified? One example: Adelaide#External links has {{Sister project links|voy=Adelaide|Adelaide}} pointing to voy:Special:Search/Adelaide instead of directly to voy:Adelaide. Launching this sort of unnecessary search will cause problems for Google-style spiders as they're normally told not to index links to special pages. K7L ( talk) 01:47, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
[[commons:Special:Search/{{{commons|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Media]] from Commons
should be [[commons:{{{commons|{{{1|Special:Search/{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Media]] from Commons
(with the same change to each of the others) so the Special:Search kludge is only used when trying to "guess" the destination by using the name of the current page.
K7L (
talk)
17:14, 12 February 2013 (UTC)Shouldn't the sentence at the top of the template read "Find out more ..." rather than "Find more ..."? It Is Me Here t / c 23:27, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi, after a suggestion I try to create a similar template on Wikiquote, see here. Can somebody please explain, why it doesn't work on Wikiquote like here on Wikipedia? -- Mdd ( talk) 19:00, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
It seems my bold edit to set the default to no was reverted, as I was unaware of earlier consensus to have it enabled. I believe it should be off, as other transclusions before this option existed did not know about this option, and having it on by default now has the link in a lot of articles where it is not applicable. Regardless of whether the other options that are enabled are worthy of their default setting, at least an editor could manually disable them when they added the template and saw the unwanted option(s). In the case of older additions of "Sister project links", is anyone signing up to fix any of the 4000+ transclusions. This breaks the concept of backwards compatability, where old settings with new template functionality is not providing same display anymore.— Bagumba ( talk) 09:40, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
voy=
is not used, it says "Travel information" rather than "Travel guide". I don't see any particular harm from the current default; everything takes time and the voy=no
can be done gradually. Already, I have had a go with AWB at removing some irrelevant Wikivoyage links, though I believe the task is better done by everyday users as they come across them. Is the default causing any display issues or irregularities?
JamesA
>talk
04:05, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
voy=no
to pages with no sister page on Wikivoyage? (The bot would have to be able to check the Wikivoyage API or something similar to do this but I think its technically possible.) That leaves Wikivoyage in a equitable position for all future uses of this template, in which cases users will know about the project and can do this manually if needs be, without having to deal with the cludge of blocking it to maintain backwards compatibility. Itineraries etc remain a possibility for the future in many of these articles, at least. -
AdamBMorgan (
talk)
00:53, 28 March 2013 (UTC)I've been an editor on Wikiversity since 2006 and can tell you firsthand that it has never matured into a truly useful sister project. It's never had a large community of editors and a lot of the content there is now generated by people who have been banned from other projects (e.g. fringe science POV-pushers and other crackpots). A large percentage of the pages are just unfinished stubs with no useful content [1] [2] or no content at all [3] [4]. Wikiversity pretty much never deletes anything, so it has gradually become filled with cruft. I don't really think we're doing our readers any favors by sending them there. At the very least it should be put at the bottom of the list. Thoughts? Kaldari ( talk) 19:54, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
I
changed the template so that if voy=
is unspecified, the default depends on Wikidata. If
Property:P107 is "geographical feature", Wikivoyage is shown by default. Otherwise, it isn't.
This still makes some mistakes (for example, buildings would receive a Wikivoyage link), but it should clear up almost everything. The link is gone from Hamlet. :-) Ypnypn ( talk) 19:35, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
{{#ifexpr:
with or
to avoid the duplication, but apparently it can only deal with numbers. This can certainly be Lua-ified; if you want to, go ahead. --
Ypnypn (
talk)
17:58, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
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Images should have an alt text. According to WP:ALT, the only situation where blank alt text is acceptable is where purely decorative images are unlinked. This article displays two icons. A minimal alt text could be added; the Main Page has "Commons" and "Wikiversity" for these icons. 84.127.80.114 ( talk) 19:37, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
These are the suggested changes. 84.127.80.114 ( talk) 23:01, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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Two items:
{{
edit template-protected}}
is usually not required for edits to the documentation, categories, or interlanguage links of templates using a
documentation subpage. Use the 'edit' link at the top of the green "Template documentation" box to edit the documentation subpage.
APerson (
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See the comments above. Please add the image for Wikivoyage to the finished template image. – S. Rich ( talk) 05:59, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
{{#if:...
function, and I was going to see if I could use tags to make that code work so that the VOY would appear in the template. If you'll take a look at that code, maybe you can tell if all that's necessary or not:|- style="height:25px;" {{#if:{{{voy|}}} |{{#ifeq:{{{voy|}}}|no | | {{!}} [[File:Wikivoyage-Logo-v3-icon.svg|25x25px|link={{fullurl:voy:{{{voy|Special:Search/{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}}}|Search Wikivoyage]] {{!}} [[voy:{{{voy|Special:Search/{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Travel {{#if: {{{voy|}}}| guide| information}}]] from Wikivoyage }} |{{#ifeq:{{#property:P107}}|geographical feature | {{!}} [[File:Wikivoyage-Logo-v3-icon.svg|25x25px|link={{fullurl:voy:{{{voy|Special:Search/{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}}}|Search Wikivoyage]] {{!}} [[voy:{{{voy|Special:Search/{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|Travel {{#if: {{{voy|}}}| guide| information}}]] from Wikivoyage }} }}
|voy=
is set, even if the Wikidata property doesn't have the right value. It's become a little more complicated, but
this should do the trick without having to specify the actual Wikivoyage link more than once. —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
13:17, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
To editor
Mr. Stradivarius: It appears that the documentation is still up to date; however, I see one thing that may be of concern. In the
Default display section resides:
However,
voy
only displays by default if the
entity type on Wikidata is "geographical feature".
That link is to Wikidata page
d:Property:P107, which has been titled "(OBSOLETE) main type (GND) (P107)", and is further described:
** Do not use ** Due to be deleted. Please use instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279)
I'm not sure if we should stay with that page or if there is a better link, such as
d:Property:P31,
d:Property:P279, or perhaps even
d:Geographical object ("feature" on en wiki). Can you provide guidance? –
Paine
16:45, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Don't you think that we should add simple.wikipedia to the template? OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 03:36, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
I've added a link for taxonomic authors who have pages on Wikispecies; see, for example, Charles Darwin. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:06, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
Can I ask, why does the wikinews link appear to be hidden by default? I notice previous conversations about wikivoyage focusing on the number of location articles that would need to have this revealed. There are at least as many equivalent pages on wikinews, so not sure why it might be treated differently. CSJJ104 ( talk) 20:57, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
n=yes
parameter, correct? Editors who feel that it is needed to accompany another sister link can use that parameter, can't they? –
Paine Ellsworth
CLIMAX!
18:52, 10 September 2014 (UTC)To editors
CSJJ104,
FDMS4 and
Pi zero: Been at work on another issue (voy=) and started browsing around the n=yes parameter a bit, and frankly, I liked what I saw. Wikinews has come a long way, and we really should seriously consider making n=yes the default. I realize from the above discourse that this idea is still controversial, so I would not make Wikinews the default without due discussion process. I really do think that the plusses outweigh the minuses at this present point (heaven knows Wikipedia isn't quite perfect, yet) and would like to open an RfC if nobody objects vehemently.
–
Paine Ellsworth
CLIMAX!
02:31, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
To editors CSJJ104, FDMS4 and Pi zero: Okay then, I have started an RfC here. Please feel welcome to come and add your rationales. – Paine 05:25, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
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Could someone integrate it with Wikidata entries? A good example is in {{ Authority control}}. -- Rezonansowy ( talk • contribs) 13:26, 2 March 2014 (UTC
When should the Wikidata link be turned "on" when this template is used? Doesn't every (or almost every) Wikipedia article have a corresponding Wikidata page (in which case the link should be on by default)? Please place some guidance in the documentation for this template.
When turning on the Wikidata link, since is is not shown by default, I put "d=yes"; however, the link is then displayed as "Database entry Yes on Wikidata". When I put the number of the WD page, it displayed as "Database entry Q15908324 on Wikidata". Also, should the WD attribute use the name of the page or the page ID? I came across this issue adding this template to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the corresponding WD page is [6], which is titled "Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (Q15908324)" and uses "Q15908324" in the address bar. So, should the link be made to "Malaysia Airlines Flight 370" or "Q15908324"? Using the wikilink d:Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 doesn't work, but d:Q15908324 does...so I assume the latter is the page name? AHeneen ( talk) 02:13, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Every article on Wikipedia already includes a link to Wikidata in the sidebar ("Wikidata item"). There is no reason to add a redundant link in the External links section. Kaldari ( talk) 20:41, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
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Since no one has objected to the proposal (and it's been a few weeks), I would like to request that the template be edited to remove the Wikidata parameter. The template sandbox has already been edited to reflect this change. Kaldari ( talk) 07:58, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
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08:07, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
I wonder if there is any chance to adjust the template, so the introductory text would be set to three lines, i.e.
To explain, in most cases now the names result in appearing in two separate lines with first names of authors being displayed at the end of the first, while their surnames at the beginning of the second line, for a change (see an example). Would not be more efficient to adjust it as mentioned, or to simplify the general text at least to only
MiewEN ( talk) 12:31, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Current sequence of params (ready for copy/paste):
{{Sister project links | 1= | display= | author= | wikt= | commons= | n= | q= | s= | b= | voy= | v= | d= | species= | species_author= | m= | mw= }}
Proposed sequence of params:
{{Sister project links | 1= | display= | author= | b= | commons= | d= | m= | mw= | n= | q= | s= | species= | species_author= | v= | voy= | wikt= }}
An alphabetical order makes some more sense. First three (non-sisters) stay there. - DePiep ( talk) 18:19, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that, at San Diego–Tijuana, the commons link that the template provides is a search on "San Diego–Tijuana", which yields San Diego–Tijuana, a page with 3 photos.
What it should do is link to the parent Category:San Diego–Tijuana, with about 10 subcats plus 20 or so loose photos. A casual user won't realize this is available. There must be a way to link the parent category, but it wasn't obvious (to me) in the template documentation. -- Pete Tillman ( talk) 01:47, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
commons:Category:San Diego–Tijuana
in the template. I don't know why or how that's not clear, though: you can choose any link that you want from any parameter... —
Justin (koavf)❤
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C☺
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06:21, 18 November 2014 (UTC)Is there a way to integrate Template:Commons and category into this template? For my project on Briarcliff Manor, I want to link to the Commons gallery and category using this template; at the time I can only choose on or the other. Can the above-mentioned template's "(category)" part be added to this template? Thanks.-- ɱ (talk · vbm) 07:48, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
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Please add class=noviewer to all images so that they don't appear in media viewer. This is discussed at Wikipedia talk:Media Viewer#Some images need to be excluded and it has already been done at Template talk:Portal#edit protected November 21 2014 where it's already been done. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 06:31, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
metadata
class, and all images have |link=
set so Media Viewer is never invoked. -- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
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World War II#mediaviewer/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_141-1880,_Peenemünde,_Start_einer_V2.jpg
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Hi guys!
There is a missing sister project, Wikipedia:book:PAGE
On
Anthropology there is such a book. It would be tidier if the book went into the sister project link box. It means adding a letter to the parameter list. Can do?
Botteville (
talk)
01:24, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
{{
Wikipedia books}}
template) in its "External links" section, which displays a link to
Book:Anthropology. As noted above, this page is in the
Book namespace within Wikipedia, and is not part of a separate
sister project. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
08:07, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
I suggest a new parameter for the template, to be named commonscat
or something like this, with possible values yes
or no
, in order to automatically add prefix Category:
to the commons link if yes
, since frequently there is a need to write it manually. The template already has similar parameter, author
, which adds an Author:
prefix to the Wikisource link.--
ɴõɴəχүsƚ
16:31, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
commons=Category:X
and achieve the same result, right? —
Justin (koavf)❤
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02:45, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
commonscat=yes
than commons=Category:X
. For the same purposes, we have separate templates, {{
commons}} and {{
commons category}}, and author
parameter in this template, so I think it would be fine to make some uniformity.--
ɴõɴəχүsƚ
11:26, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
11:39, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
|commons=
was changed to |c=
at the same time, possibly breaking many articles. Was this change intended? -- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
08:28, 21 April 2015 (UTC)|c=
or add it as an alternative to |commons=
or revert this whole change until someone wants to figure it out. –
czar
21:53, 13 May 2015 (UTC)c
and commons
should be identical in the
interwiki map... —
Justin (koavf)❤
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02:05, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
|commons=
, and only |c=
after your edit, while the previous was still in wide use. It should have accepted both. -- [[
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08:01, 14 May 2015 (UTC)Why is there no part of this template that says " Travel guides from Wikivoyage"? Can that be added? SarrCat ∑;3 05:37, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
|voy=
parameter. See for example
Paris#External links. --
Redrose64 (
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09:24, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
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For the Wikivoyage link, this template is checking Wikidata for d:Property:P107, which has been deleted over there - so it should probably be removed from this template's code - Evad37 [ talk 11:17, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
{{#ifeq:{{#property:P107}}|geographical feature|true|false}}
- should that be replaced with an explicit true
or an explicit false
? --
Redrose64 (
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15:08, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
Using {{wikimedia|collapsible=true}}, when I click on a sister site I don't want it to look for the whole article name, but only for a portion of it.
On James Bond (disambiguation) I only want it to search on James Bond.
What are the parameters/switches/values I need to use? Thank you. Checkingfax ( talk) 14:28, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
{{
wikimedia|James Bond}}
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Redrose64 (
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22:25, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
{{wikimedia|James Bond|commonscat=no|collapsible=true}}
Checkingfax (
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01:10, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
|commonscat=no
parameter does nothing, and may be omitted. However, if it were |commonscat=yes
it would modify the links in the Commons row, from
c:Special:Search/James Bond to
c:Special:Search/Category:James Bond. --
Redrose64 (
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09:48, 24 September 2015 (UTC)Parameter documentation needed instead for template {{
wikimedia}}
. I was redirected here. Thank you. Cheers! {{u|
Checkingfax}} {
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07:29, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
The link from this template to Wiktionry states "Definitions from Wiktionary".
That is an extremely narrow description of what Wiktionary provides. The entries at Wiktionary also provide an etymology, IPA pronunciation, pronunciation audio files, rhyming words, historical and variant spellings, inflection or conjugation, usage information, dated historical citations, etymologically related terms, synonyms, antonyms, anagrams, translations into other languages, and more. (See wikt:parrot for an example of what Wiktionary actually provides in an entry.)
So, saying "Definitions from Wiktionary" is rather demeaning of that project. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 01:29, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Note: I posted a link here at the Village Pump seeking more comment. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 15:17, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Almost five months--still no decision and no action. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 23:31, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Nine months now. Babies have been born who were conceived when this discussion started, yet still no action has been taken. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 04:48, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
This thread is waiting for a response after more than a year. -- EncycloPetey ( talk) 17:07, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
The Village Pump post puts eyes and ears on the page, while the list of options gives people something concrete to comment on. If there is clear agreement after that discussion, use the {{ edit protected}} template to request an administrator or template editor to make the change. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 20:48, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
I've added this great template on cywiki, (Nodyn:Wicimedia / {{wikimedia}}) as you can see on the w:cy:Microcephaly article. I would like to see visible only those projects which actually do include a reference to Microcephaly; in this case, only WP and WD. This could then be added (in theory) to all 60,000 cy articles. As it stands it entices the reader to click on links which do not exist, which is not good. Many thanks. Llywelyn2000 ( talk) 16:25, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
I recently added three of this template to one article ( no longer included), because three terms potentially had links. Since the template automatically aligns to the right edge of the page, the result was that all three formed into a tall column that resulted in vast space to the left being empty. That's a bad layout. An option to allow side-by-side positioning would help. I don't know how to do that. Nick Levinson ( talk) 20:03, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
{{
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, like this:5 July version of Template:Sister project links/sandbox and /testcases
Working on an edit to improve this template for screen reader and keyboard users. Mostly minor or invisible (to most users) edits. With one big exception — the icon links.
How important is it for the icons to be linked? Removing the icon link reduces the tab key presses to navigate the list from two to one per item, and eliminates repetitive speech. On the other hand, there are probably users who'd rather click the icon than the text. As a third option, it might be possible to combine the image and text into a single link by inserting a CSS pseudo-element, but it'd be tricky. Matt Fitzpatrick ( talk) 12:12, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
There is an important discussion at Commons here concerning the fact that this template may lead visitors to galleries. Please have a look and share your thoughts. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 23:41, 29 October 2016 (UTC)