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Jonesey95, currently, the font size of the quote box text "defaults to 88%". I'd like to be able to tweak that as it's pretty small text. Is there any workaround or another template that allows this? -- Valjean ( talk) ( PING me) 20:04, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
|fontsize=
parameter that is listed in the template's documentation? See
this test case for an example. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 01:32, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Okay, it's been mentioned before here: Template_talk:Quote_box/Archive_3#Accessibility_of_font-size:_88% I just don't see a good reason to make the quote text harder to read. Can we agree that the default should be 100%, while preserving the option to tweak it? -- Valjean ( talk) ( PING me) 02:50, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
I just noticed this change at several articles on my watchlist that use this template and I personally feel it has made it harder for the eye to differentiate between normal text and in-line quote boxes. The template is also now inconsistent with the font-size of image captions. I don't think either of those reasons are convincing enough to get this changed back but I do think, considering how many articles use this template, that a wider discussion should be had about whether they should all default to 100% or whether the status quo was fine. I have searched back through the history of the template (as well as Template:Quote box2) and both were changed from 90% to 88% without discussion, but at the time 88% was the default size for infoboxes so I think it was for consistency with other page elements? - adamstom97 ( talk) 21:16, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
|fontsize=
to make the text larger or smaller in a given template instance. There may be a separate, widely advertised discussion about whether this template is even appropriate in article space. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 06:33, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
|fontsize=
can be had for increasing the text size as it can be for decreasing it. Don't mess with the whole thing for a small, relatively new position and leave it up to the editors' discretion of each individual article, rather than forcing a change that affects a multitude of articles and viewing formats of the site. I will note this change also made the textsize inconsistent with the captions of images, and thus can make it more difficult to read and navigate between those when paired closely together within the same article.
Trailblazer101 (
talk) 20:31, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
“ | There used to be this option which a lot of people thought was an elegant solution, and used (I'm talking about the big quote marks you see here, at the upper left and lower right). But, an editor who really really really hated it conducted a years-long relentless campaign against it (using skeevy methods too), and after a few unsuccessful RfC finally got a small one to ban it and impose his opinion on the editor corps generally, and I was too exhausted to contest it anymore. It is called {{ Cquote}} (and {{ Rquote}}); it only works on talk pages now, which is why you can see it here. As you can see I'm still salty about it lol. I miss not being able to use cos it's better than just an indentation at helping the reader understand right off that she is reading a quote -- you do not need a font size change -- and looks better than a 1985-style colored box, and other editors do too. IDK, on the one hand you hate to see this kind of thing, but on the other hand people who have an untiring and ruthless belief in something and will never give up, well, you have to respect that in a way. Sorry, but I felt compelled to rant lol. I feel better now, thank you. | ” |
Herostratus ( talk) 04:21, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
For instance, just recently I came across Battle of Krasnoi#Napoleon's Bold move: Ordering the Guard's Advance. The section begins with a quote, and there was absolutely zero signal to the reader that it was a quote, since an indentation can't be sussed if you not indenting from previous text. Sure would have liked access to {{ Cquote}}. Did not want to put a colored box around the material because IMO it's ugly and I don't make ugly pages and refuse to be forced to. All I could think of was to italicize the passage, which works pretty well. AFAIK that's not forbidden. That should be pointed out, or maybe italic text should be the default for quote box material instead of font size changes. Herostratus ( talk) 23:23, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi all. Is it possible to contain a table within a {{ Quote box}}? If not, is it possible to achieve a similar columnic effect? Cheers! ——Serial Number 54129 16:29, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Cell 1 Cell 2
HEADER Cell 1 Cell 2
Lorem ipsum | Lorem ipsum |
I'm currently trying to use the template at the Acute stress reaction article, but the quote box seems to hide the section header below. Is there a way to fix this? Many thanks in advance NoonIcarus ( talk) 09:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
The
Manual of Style guidelines for block quotations recommend formatting block quotations using the {{
Blockquote}}
template
.
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Quote box template. |
|
Archives: 1, 2, 3Auto-archiving period: 28 days |
Template:Quote box is permanently
protected from editing because it is a
heavily used or highly visible template. Substantial changes should first be proposed and discussed here on this page. If the proposal is uncontroversial or has been discussed and is supported by
consensus, editors may use {{
edit template-protected}} to notify an administrator or template editor to make the requested edit. Usually, any contributor may edit the template's
documentation to add usage notes or
categories.
Any contributor may edit the template's sandbox. Functionality of the template can be checked using test cases. |
Jonesey95, currently, the font size of the quote box text "defaults to 88%". I'd like to be able to tweak that as it's pretty small text. Is there any workaround or another template that allows this? -- Valjean ( talk) ( PING me) 20:04, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
|fontsize=
parameter that is listed in the template's documentation? See
this test case for an example. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 01:32, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Okay, it's been mentioned before here: Template_talk:Quote_box/Archive_3#Accessibility_of_font-size:_88% I just don't see a good reason to make the quote text harder to read. Can we agree that the default should be 100%, while preserving the option to tweak it? -- Valjean ( talk) ( PING me) 02:50, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
I just noticed this change at several articles on my watchlist that use this template and I personally feel it has made it harder for the eye to differentiate between normal text and in-line quote boxes. The template is also now inconsistent with the font-size of image captions. I don't think either of those reasons are convincing enough to get this changed back but I do think, considering how many articles use this template, that a wider discussion should be had about whether they should all default to 100% or whether the status quo was fine. I have searched back through the history of the template (as well as Template:Quote box2) and both were changed from 90% to 88% without discussion, but at the time 88% was the default size for infoboxes so I think it was for consistency with other page elements? - adamstom97 ( talk) 21:16, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
|fontsize=
to make the text larger or smaller in a given template instance. There may be a separate, widely advertised discussion about whether this template is even appropriate in article space. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 06:33, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
|fontsize=
can be had for increasing the text size as it can be for decreasing it. Don't mess with the whole thing for a small, relatively new position and leave it up to the editors' discretion of each individual article, rather than forcing a change that affects a multitude of articles and viewing formats of the site. I will note this change also made the textsize inconsistent with the captions of images, and thus can make it more difficult to read and navigate between those when paired closely together within the same article.
Trailblazer101 (
talk) 20:31, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
“ | There used to be this option which a lot of people thought was an elegant solution, and used (I'm talking about the big quote marks you see here, at the upper left and lower right). But, an editor who really really really hated it conducted a years-long relentless campaign against it (using skeevy methods too), and after a few unsuccessful RfC finally got a small one to ban it and impose his opinion on the editor corps generally, and I was too exhausted to contest it anymore. It is called {{ Cquote}} (and {{ Rquote}}); it only works on talk pages now, which is why you can see it here. As you can see I'm still salty about it lol. I miss not being able to use cos it's better than just an indentation at helping the reader understand right off that she is reading a quote -- you do not need a font size change -- and looks better than a 1985-style colored box, and other editors do too. IDK, on the one hand you hate to see this kind of thing, but on the other hand people who have an untiring and ruthless belief in something and will never give up, well, you have to respect that in a way. Sorry, but I felt compelled to rant lol. I feel better now, thank you. | ” |
Herostratus ( talk) 04:21, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
For instance, just recently I came across Battle of Krasnoi#Napoleon's Bold move: Ordering the Guard's Advance. The section begins with a quote, and there was absolutely zero signal to the reader that it was a quote, since an indentation can't be sussed if you not indenting from previous text. Sure would have liked access to {{ Cquote}}. Did not want to put a colored box around the material because IMO it's ugly and I don't make ugly pages and refuse to be forced to. All I could think of was to italicize the passage, which works pretty well. AFAIK that's not forbidden. That should be pointed out, or maybe italic text should be the default for quote box material instead of font size changes. Herostratus ( talk) 23:23, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi all. Is it possible to contain a table within a {{ Quote box}}? If not, is it possible to achieve a similar columnic effect? Cheers! ——Serial Number 54129 16:29, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Cell 1 Cell 2
HEADER Cell 1 Cell 2
Lorem ipsum | Lorem ipsum |
I'm currently trying to use the template at the Acute stress reaction article, but the quote box seems to hide the section header below. Is there a way to fix this? Many thanks in advance NoonIcarus ( talk) 09:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
The
Manual of Style guidelines for block quotations recommend formatting block quotations using the {{
Blockquote}}
template
.