I've removed this content of this template. I've been encountering the most horrible and unsightly graphics amid text conversations for some time, and wondered what on earth could be screwing things up so comprehensively. Please do not restore the content. It is absolutely unnecessary, we're all capable of recognising the need to unindent, and the graphic itself is hideous and makes the text of discussion more difficult to follow. --22:40, 16 December 2009 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tony Sidaway ( talk • contribs)
@ Pablo X: I disagree with your point on aesthetics, but rather than fuss over it I reimplemented it as a conditional. we can wait for other users to chime in on it. I've also removed the page-width link, which annoys me because I keep clicking on by accident. -- Ludwigs2 21:44, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
I feel that the 2nd parameter should have been unnamed, as its value is irrelevant, and typing "t=y" is not as memorable as, say, "text" or "t". I'm not sure this can be safely changed now -- it would be dependent on whether anyone has used the t parameter before the indent #.-- Father Goose ( talk) 08:41, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Would it be a good idea for the new line following {{ Outdent}} to be indented one space? Having a new line outdented fully left (as is the norm now) seems more disruptive of the thread structure, and might discourage new editors from learning to correctly thread conversations.
I'm not sure many will agree with me on this, but thought I'd try asking. / edg ☺ ☭ 17:07, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:{{od}}
in the documentation for this template? /
edg
☺
☭
23:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)Agree the template should mimic and go all the way. Anyway I don't think it would visually convey any clear meaning to have a space. (What do you think? I threw a few spaces in here to try it out; one space on its own wasn't really noticeable.) I don't like it and I can't see that it achieves what you're aiming for anyway. And before anyone suggests not taking the line itself all the way back to the left, I think that would be even worse. Sorry, but I think outdent is outdent, and once someone outdents by any means, they have trashed the options for anyone to selectively align further replies with the preceding comments, and that's just one of the charms of this somewhat barbaric but often very appropriate practice. PL290 ( talk) 22:56, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:
(the way my reply here is), not just a few
-spaces in the first line. That said, I guess no one feels this is necessary. Thank you for replying. /
edg
☺
☭
23:45, 6 March 2010 (UTC)In looking at manifestations of this template with IE as well Chrome, it doesn't seem to draw the line far enough in, not even in the examples given here. -- Born2cycle ( talk) 18:16, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Does the line go far enough? -- Born2cycle ( talk) 18:16, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
0000000001111111111222222222233333333334444444444555555555566666666667
1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890
How far does the line go? -- Born2cycle ( talk) 19:09, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
This template seems to have a bug that changes text colour to green and then red if used in a page that is very long (>700 kb). Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia_talk:Sock_puppetry/Archive_7&oldid=392842314 (scroll all the way down). Bug is observed in both Chrome and Firefox. -- Tagtool ( talk) 19:31, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
What is the default number of outdents when you use the template without supplying a parameter?
The documentation neither says you can do this (which you can) or states the default.
Cheers, CapnZapp ( talk) 09:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
I can't edit the page due to it being protected, but someone else should put in a link to the new Swedish translation. - quispiam talk [Anton Nordenfur] 18:27, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Can I say that only in Chrome does '┏╍╍┛' render correctly, in Firefox, IE and Safari the end brackets and and broken dashes do not align , whilst the previous did. -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 17:05, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
The documentation page states that one should Outdent when intending gets too deep, but for me, that's a bit arbitrary and ambiguous. Is there a set numerical range that calls for Outdenting? Illegitimate Barrister ( talk) 17:55, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
This template is broken on mobile. (And just going by memory, it has been this way for quite a while.) Instead of one horizontal line, I am seeing many horizontal lines on top of each other. See the
test cases page in mobile view to see what I mean. The horizontal lines seem to be the correct width, but the overflow:hidden;
CSS doesn't appear to be doing anything. Has this been overridden in the mobile site code somewhere, and is there any way of fixing it? —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
04:30, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
I am adding a named parameter to this template called "reverse". It turns to two ends upside down (from ┌─┘ to └─┐) so that this template can be used for indent.
-- PBS ( talk) 11:17, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
13:12, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Indent does not do the same thing. Indeed I used {{indent|3}} at the start of this line and I an not at all sure what it is meant to do!
an example
|
---|
I think the sources are just fine. Oh no they are not Then someone inserts another comment I think the sources are just fine. I think they are very poor examples. Oh no they are not How to fix this? Well one can refactor to this I think the sources are just fine. Oh no they are not I think they are very poor examples. but the reason for the outdent was presumably because the first editor thinks that they need outdenting. Another choice is: I think the sources are just fine. Oh no they are not I think they are very poor examples. but in which case in my opinion it is more elegant to do this: I think the sources are just fine. Oh no they are not I think they are very poor examples. |
Where did this came from? I last saw it by Lucas Thoms to outdent talk pages after they left a reply there. -- Allen ( talk to me! / ctrb / E-mail me) 01:41, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
A tag has recently been added to the template. However it has been added in way that causes it to appear on every instance this template is used across the entire Wikipedia. That causes more disruption than anything else. Could someone take a look a this and try to fix it so that the tag only appears on the template page? Tvx1 ( talk) 21:53, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Refer Template:Outdent/doc#Errors and unexpected behaviours
Far more important: param1 may not be null. Sadly, this is outside my area of expertise.
Cheers, Pdfpdf ( talk) 10:12, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
There's nothing here that tells you how to respond to an outdent that isn't yours but is part of a conversation that you're included in - how many colons should be used etc. That would be really helpful. Yb2 ( talk) 20:19, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:Od has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
A protected redirect, Template:Od , needs a redirect category ( rcat) template added. Please modify it as follows:
#REDIRECT [[Template:Outdent]]
#REDIRECT [[Template:Outdent]] {{Redirect category shell|{{R from template shortcut}}}}
The {{ Redirect category shell}} template is used to sort redirects into one or more categories. When {{ pp-protected}} and/or {{ pp-move}} suffice, the Redirect category shell template will detect the protection level(s) and categorize the redirect automatically. (Also, the categories will be automatically removed or changed when and if protection is lifted, raised or lowered.) Thank you in advance! Paine Ellsworth u/ c 16:05, 3 December 2016 (UTC)>
This
edit request to
Template:Outdent has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Replace the entire page with
{{#invoke:outdent|outdent}}<noinclude>{{documentation}}</noinclude>
This offers several advantages over the current version
Edits can be see at the sandbox and testcases are at the testcases. – BrandonXLF (t@lk) 19:44, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
I've removed this content of this template. I've been encountering the most horrible and unsightly graphics amid text conversations for some time, and wondered what on earth could be screwing things up so comprehensively. Please do not restore the content. It is absolutely unnecessary, we're all capable of recognising the need to unindent, and the graphic itself is hideous and makes the text of discussion more difficult to follow. --22:40, 16 December 2009 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tony Sidaway ( talk • contribs)
@ Pablo X: I disagree with your point on aesthetics, but rather than fuss over it I reimplemented it as a conditional. we can wait for other users to chime in on it. I've also removed the page-width link, which annoys me because I keep clicking on by accident. -- Ludwigs2 21:44, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
I feel that the 2nd parameter should have been unnamed, as its value is irrelevant, and typing "t=y" is not as memorable as, say, "text" or "t". I'm not sure this can be safely changed now -- it would be dependent on whether anyone has used the t parameter before the indent #.-- Father Goose ( talk) 08:41, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Would it be a good idea for the new line following {{ Outdent}} to be indented one space? Having a new line outdented fully left (as is the norm now) seems more disruptive of the thread structure, and might discourage new editors from learning to correctly thread conversations.
I'm not sure many will agree with me on this, but thought I'd try asking. / edg ☺ ☭ 17:07, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:{{od}}
in the documentation for this template? /
edg
☺
☭
23:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)Agree the template should mimic and go all the way. Anyway I don't think it would visually convey any clear meaning to have a space. (What do you think? I threw a few spaces in here to try it out; one space on its own wasn't really noticeable.) I don't like it and I can't see that it achieves what you're aiming for anyway. And before anyone suggests not taking the line itself all the way back to the left, I think that would be even worse. Sorry, but I think outdent is outdent, and once someone outdents by any means, they have trashed the options for anyone to selectively align further replies with the preceding comments, and that's just one of the charms of this somewhat barbaric but often very appropriate practice. PL290 ( talk) 22:56, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:
(the way my reply here is), not just a few
-spaces in the first line. That said, I guess no one feels this is necessary. Thank you for replying. /
edg
☺
☭
23:45, 6 March 2010 (UTC)In looking at manifestations of this template with IE as well Chrome, it doesn't seem to draw the line far enough in, not even in the examples given here. -- Born2cycle ( talk) 18:16, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Does the line go far enough? -- Born2cycle ( talk) 18:16, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
0000000001111111111222222222233333333334444444444555555555566666666667
1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890
How far does the line go? -- Born2cycle ( talk) 19:09, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
This template seems to have a bug that changes text colour to green and then red if used in a page that is very long (>700 kb). Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia_talk:Sock_puppetry/Archive_7&oldid=392842314 (scroll all the way down). Bug is observed in both Chrome and Firefox. -- Tagtool ( talk) 19:31, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
What is the default number of outdents when you use the template without supplying a parameter?
The documentation neither says you can do this (which you can) or states the default.
Cheers, CapnZapp ( talk) 09:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
I can't edit the page due to it being protected, but someone else should put in a link to the new Swedish translation. - quispiam talk [Anton Nordenfur] 18:27, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Can I say that only in Chrome does '┏╍╍┛' render correctly, in Firefox, IE and Safari the end brackets and and broken dashes do not align , whilst the previous did. -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 17:05, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
The documentation page states that one should Outdent when intending gets too deep, but for me, that's a bit arbitrary and ambiguous. Is there a set numerical range that calls for Outdenting? Illegitimate Barrister ( talk) 17:55, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
This template is broken on mobile. (And just going by memory, it has been this way for quite a while.) Instead of one horizontal line, I am seeing many horizontal lines on top of each other. See the
test cases page in mobile view to see what I mean. The horizontal lines seem to be the correct width, but the overflow:hidden;
CSS doesn't appear to be doing anything. Has this been overridden in the mobile site code somewhere, and is there any way of fixing it? —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
04:30, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
I am adding a named parameter to this template called "reverse". It turns to two ends upside down (from ┌─┘ to └─┐) so that this template can be used for indent.
-- PBS ( talk) 11:17, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
-- [[
User:Edokter]] {{
talk}}
13:12, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Indent does not do the same thing. Indeed I used {{indent|3}} at the start of this line and I an not at all sure what it is meant to do!
an example
|
---|
I think the sources are just fine. Oh no they are not Then someone inserts another comment I think the sources are just fine. I think they are very poor examples. Oh no they are not How to fix this? Well one can refactor to this I think the sources are just fine. Oh no they are not I think they are very poor examples. but the reason for the outdent was presumably because the first editor thinks that they need outdenting. Another choice is: I think the sources are just fine. Oh no they are not I think they are very poor examples. but in which case in my opinion it is more elegant to do this: I think the sources are just fine. Oh no they are not I think they are very poor examples. |
Where did this came from? I last saw it by Lucas Thoms to outdent talk pages after they left a reply there. -- Allen ( talk to me! / ctrb / E-mail me) 01:41, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
A tag has recently been added to the template. However it has been added in way that causes it to appear on every instance this template is used across the entire Wikipedia. That causes more disruption than anything else. Could someone take a look a this and try to fix it so that the tag only appears on the template page? Tvx1 ( talk) 21:53, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Refer Template:Outdent/doc#Errors and unexpected behaviours
Far more important: param1 may not be null. Sadly, this is outside my area of expertise.
Cheers, Pdfpdf ( talk) 10:12, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
There's nothing here that tells you how to respond to an outdent that isn't yours but is part of a conversation that you're included in - how many colons should be used etc. That would be really helpful. Yb2 ( talk) 20:19, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:Od has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
A protected redirect, Template:Od , needs a redirect category ( rcat) template added. Please modify it as follows:
#REDIRECT [[Template:Outdent]]
#REDIRECT [[Template:Outdent]] {{Redirect category shell|{{R from template shortcut}}}}
The {{ Redirect category shell}} template is used to sort redirects into one or more categories. When {{ pp-protected}} and/or {{ pp-move}} suffice, the Redirect category shell template will detect the protection level(s) and categorize the redirect automatically. (Also, the categories will be automatically removed or changed when and if protection is lifted, raised or lowered.) Thank you in advance! Paine Ellsworth u/ c 16:05, 3 December 2016 (UTC)>
This
edit request to
Template:Outdent has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Replace the entire page with
{{#invoke:outdent|outdent}}<noinclude>{{documentation}}</noinclude>
This offers several advantages over the current version
Edits can be see at the sandbox and testcases are at the testcases. – BrandonXLF (t@lk) 19:44, 6 October 2018 (UTC)