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Where does Kim Il-Soon fit into this tree? Oc t ane [ improve me? 24.07.09 0553 (UTC)
Update and expand as per [1]? -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 02:45, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Someone can add the whole family? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39382760/ns/world_news-asia_pacific/t/north-koreas-first-family/#.TyL9qPlciZV — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kizar ( talk • contribs) 21:17, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Done
See Special:ArticleFeedbackv5/Kim_Jong-un/191794. There is a request to indicate the gender of each person in the family tree. I feel that it would be confusing to use different colours as in the proposal and that it would be more clear to add ♂ or ♀ after each name. Any opinion? -- Stefan2 ( talk) 10:54, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Done
I intend to add the birth and death years to this tree. Jason Quinn ( talk) 14:11, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
As per some of the oldest comments, it appears that this tree is, in fact, incomplete. I'm thinking that a footnote to that effect might be the best way to solve the issue. Simply adding more people might make the tree to big. Jason Quinn ( talk) 14:14, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Great information, Stefan2. I'll try to work this into the tree footnotes at some point. I think a new footnote for the word "Select" will be needed, that perhaps says explictly that some brothers and sisters have been omitted. And I expand the footnote about alternative spellings to mention McCune-Reischauer. Jason Quinn ( talk) 14:35, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
There has been many rumors that Kim Jong-Un had a child, but now Dennis Rodman has told The Sun that he had a daughter. Is this worth putting in the family tree? Soffredo ( talk) 00:23, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
There's been a few editors making changes to the Romanization of this template. It appears that the manual of style for North Korean articles says to use McCune–Reischauer romanizaiton (but not the DPRK's official variant) when the item (in this case a template) is primarily North Korean. This template is clearly primarily North Korean so that seems to hold here. There's now a problem though... most of the links in the template point to articles using a different Romanization. All the people linked here are primarily North Korean topics so the McCune–Reischauer romanizaiton should probably also be applied there to conform to the manual of style. This will require some discussion and work. Let's first make sure that this template is using proper McCune–Reischauer throughout (and if you think I'm misinterpreting the manual of style, now would be a good time to say so) and come to consensus on that. And then we can decide what to do about the rest of the article names. Don't move or change anything there yet. Jason Quinn ( talk) 17:46, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Comment There's a current disconnect between the article names and the template's link names. I think that will confuse readers and promote new editors to make changes likely to be reverted or cause trouble. So for the moment, I think the best course of action is to revert back to the romanizaiton that is consistent with the articles despite the manual of style suggesting to use this romanization. After more discussion we can decide whether McCune-Reischauer should actually be used here (or even if the wording of the manual of style should be changed). Jason Quinn ( talk) 18:55, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Note A similar problem exists with Template talk:Family of Kim Jong-il. Jason Quinn ( talk) 19:36, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Kim Ju-ae, Kim Jong-un's daughter, should be added to this template. Soffredo 21:07, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved to Template:Kim dynasty (North Korea) family tree, matching the article Kim dynasty (North Korea). And as a reminder, template names rarely matter a great deal. I've proposed a move of that article, but it's no big deal if the templates don't move with it. -- BDD ( talk) 23:17, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Template:Kim Jong-il family tree → Template:Kim family tree – This template is not centered around Kim Jong-il, it's about the family as a whole. Charles Essie ( talk) 20:23, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
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I'd like to change the date of birth of Kim Hyong-Jik from 1884 till 1894. 151.229.126.49 ( talk) 20:04, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
I changed Kim Bo-hyon's birth year from 1859 to 1871. This was done after investigating this edit to the Kim Hyong-jik article, which also appears to have discovered his birth year was incorrectly listed as 1984 instead of 1894. I have so far only found sources for 1871 for Kim Bo-hyon (e.g., Korea and World Affairs - Volume 27 - Page 251 and a few South Korean news pamplets). The 1859 year was added by me with this edit back in 00:15, 20 January 2013. I believe I just used the year from the Kim Hyong-jik article at the time. Jason Quinn ( talk) 23:48, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
I think we should add Kim Ung-u to the template of the Kim family tree. Angelgreat ( talk) 8:35, 28 July 2017 (CST)
We should find a way to put when people were married. Kim Jong-il had 4 wives, and I would like to know who he was married to when. -- Numberguy6 ( talk) 17:03, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
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In note eta (η) change 'Some years like 1982 (Year of the Dog) my [sic] be viewed as better years than others...' to 'Some years like 1982 (Year of the Dog) may be viewed as better years than others...' to fix a typo (my -> may) 2001:8003:DD93:4C00:D4D:5FC:6310:8CAC ( talk) 15:26, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
The Wikipedia family tree in footnote Alpha says that Kim Il Sung had a total of eight known children. However, both family trees provided by the Huss and the Lee sources, show seven.
With Kim Jong Suk, he had three children:
With Kim Song Ae, he had four children:
The footnote also mentions two other people Kim Hyŏn-nam, and Kim Yŏng-il, which as far as I can tell from the sources, they do not mention them.
The wikipedia article on Kim Il Sung does say that he had additional children outside of marriage, and mentions one by name:
However, I can't access the sources that are supposed to back that claim.
Also the article on Kim Il Sung mentions a child that was stillborn-- and maybe that is the eighth child the footnote accounted for. That could account for the eighth legitimate child.
And, Kim Kyong Suk who should be named in the footnote, is not mentioned, and should be be added.
If anyone else knows any better, please let me know. Otherwise I'll go ahead and modify the footnote to be as follows:
Thank you. Al83tito ( talk) 04:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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Where does Kim Il-Soon fit into this tree? Oc t ane [ improve me? 24.07.09 0553 (UTC)
Update and expand as per [1]? -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 02:45, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Someone can add the whole family? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39382760/ns/world_news-asia_pacific/t/north-koreas-first-family/#.TyL9qPlciZV — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kizar ( talk • contribs) 21:17, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Done
See Special:ArticleFeedbackv5/Kim_Jong-un/191794. There is a request to indicate the gender of each person in the family tree. I feel that it would be confusing to use different colours as in the proposal and that it would be more clear to add ♂ or ♀ after each name. Any opinion? -- Stefan2 ( talk) 10:54, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Done
I intend to add the birth and death years to this tree. Jason Quinn ( talk) 14:11, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
As per some of the oldest comments, it appears that this tree is, in fact, incomplete. I'm thinking that a footnote to that effect might be the best way to solve the issue. Simply adding more people might make the tree to big. Jason Quinn ( talk) 14:14, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Great information, Stefan2. I'll try to work this into the tree footnotes at some point. I think a new footnote for the word "Select" will be needed, that perhaps says explictly that some brothers and sisters have been omitted. And I expand the footnote about alternative spellings to mention McCune-Reischauer. Jason Quinn ( talk) 14:35, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
There has been many rumors that Kim Jong-Un had a child, but now Dennis Rodman has told The Sun that he had a daughter. Is this worth putting in the family tree? Soffredo ( talk) 00:23, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
There's been a few editors making changes to the Romanization of this template. It appears that the manual of style for North Korean articles says to use McCune–Reischauer romanizaiton (but not the DPRK's official variant) when the item (in this case a template) is primarily North Korean. This template is clearly primarily North Korean so that seems to hold here. There's now a problem though... most of the links in the template point to articles using a different Romanization. All the people linked here are primarily North Korean topics so the McCune–Reischauer romanizaiton should probably also be applied there to conform to the manual of style. This will require some discussion and work. Let's first make sure that this template is using proper McCune–Reischauer throughout (and if you think I'm misinterpreting the manual of style, now would be a good time to say so) and come to consensus on that. And then we can decide what to do about the rest of the article names. Don't move or change anything there yet. Jason Quinn ( talk) 17:46, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Comment There's a current disconnect between the article names and the template's link names. I think that will confuse readers and promote new editors to make changes likely to be reverted or cause trouble. So for the moment, I think the best course of action is to revert back to the romanizaiton that is consistent with the articles despite the manual of style suggesting to use this romanization. After more discussion we can decide whether McCune-Reischauer should actually be used here (or even if the wording of the manual of style should be changed). Jason Quinn ( talk) 18:55, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Note A similar problem exists with Template talk:Family of Kim Jong-il. Jason Quinn ( talk) 19:36, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Kim Ju-ae, Kim Jong-un's daughter, should be added to this template. Soffredo 21:07, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved to Template:Kim dynasty (North Korea) family tree, matching the article Kim dynasty (North Korea). And as a reminder, template names rarely matter a great deal. I've proposed a move of that article, but it's no big deal if the templates don't move with it. -- BDD ( talk) 23:17, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Template:Kim Jong-il family tree → Template:Kim family tree – This template is not centered around Kim Jong-il, it's about the family as a whole. Charles Essie ( talk) 20:23, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
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I'd like to change the date of birth of Kim Hyong-Jik from 1884 till 1894. 151.229.126.49 ( talk) 20:04, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
I changed Kim Bo-hyon's birth year from 1859 to 1871. This was done after investigating this edit to the Kim Hyong-jik article, which also appears to have discovered his birth year was incorrectly listed as 1984 instead of 1894. I have so far only found sources for 1871 for Kim Bo-hyon (e.g., Korea and World Affairs - Volume 27 - Page 251 and a few South Korean news pamplets). The 1859 year was added by me with this edit back in 00:15, 20 January 2013. I believe I just used the year from the Kim Hyong-jik article at the time. Jason Quinn ( talk) 23:48, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
I think we should add Kim Ung-u to the template of the Kim family tree. Angelgreat ( talk) 8:35, 28 July 2017 (CST)
We should find a way to put when people were married. Kim Jong-il had 4 wives, and I would like to know who he was married to when. -- Numberguy6 ( talk) 17:03, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
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In note eta (η) change 'Some years like 1982 (Year of the Dog) my [sic] be viewed as better years than others...' to 'Some years like 1982 (Year of the Dog) may be viewed as better years than others...' to fix a typo (my -> may) 2001:8003:DD93:4C00:D4D:5FC:6310:8CAC ( talk) 15:26, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
The Wikipedia family tree in footnote Alpha says that Kim Il Sung had a total of eight known children. However, both family trees provided by the Huss and the Lee sources, show seven.
With Kim Jong Suk, he had three children:
With Kim Song Ae, he had four children:
The footnote also mentions two other people Kim Hyŏn-nam, and Kim Yŏng-il, which as far as I can tell from the sources, they do not mention them.
The wikipedia article on Kim Il Sung does say that he had additional children outside of marriage, and mentions one by name:
However, I can't access the sources that are supposed to back that claim.
Also the article on Kim Il Sung mentions a child that was stillborn-- and maybe that is the eighth child the footnote accounted for. That could account for the eighth legitimate child.
And, Kim Kyong Suk who should be named in the footnote, is not mentioned, and should be be added.
If anyone else knows any better, please let me know. Otherwise I'll go ahead and modify the footnote to be as follows:
Thank you. Al83tito ( talk) 04:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC)