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Is there a reason why the infobox will show both |season=
and |series_no=
values and not just one? While not that common, some editors are mistaking one for the episode value as can be seen
Final episode of The Colbert Report and
The Color of Friendship (1981 film), while a fix would be pretty simple. Any objections to limiting this to show only one? --
Gonnym (
talk)
14:49, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
season
or series_no
, but not both. Typically, "series" is used for television series produced within the United Kingdom while "season" is used for American television series." In
Final episode of The Colbert Report the infobox is saying the episode is both in the 11th season and the 1,447th series. The correct field entry should be |episode=160
as the episode was the 160th in the season.
The Color of Friendship (1981 film) had a similar error. --
AussieLegend (
✉)
08:36, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
why the infobox will show bothand the answer was immediately clear to me after looking at the examples that you provided. The documentation says not to use both but someone had at both articles. You don't use both because because it's a simple terminology issue. You obviously weren't clear about that because you had to ask on my talk page. [1] The only fix that was required for the examples you provided was for editors to use the infobox correctly, in accordance with the instructions. Your suggested fix seems to prioritise|season=
and|series_no=
values and not just one
|season=
over |series_no=
which means that articles that use both but which actually should only be using |series_no=
would be incorrect. --
AussieLegend (
✉)
09:10, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
|season=
over |series_no=
which happens for two reasons. The first, is that season is used in much more countries around the world AND in much more articles in en.wiki, hence logically, that should be the one it checks first. Secondly, the current code is "wasteful" by the fact that it does two if
checks, while my code reduces that in most scenarios to only one. If the doc says to use only one and not both, this is really a non-issue, if the infobox shows |season=
over |series_no=
then just change the param and it's fixed, not sure why you insist in having faulty code. This is the same scenario with |release_date=
and |airdate=
- we show one and not both. Do we really need an RfC for this? --
Gonnym (
talk)
10:56, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
The first, is that season is used in much more countries around the world AND in much more articles in en.wiki, hence logically, that should be the one it checks first.- The problem with this assumption is that we don't favour any one spelling or use of terminology over another. Both "series" and "season" are used widely and we can't make any preference for "season" over "series" especially when it will result in a large number of articles suppressing valid information.
not sure why you insist in having faulty code.- I'm not sure why you'd make that claim when I never said anything of the sort. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 14:25, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Any objections to limiting this to show only one?which you've still have not answered, as is common with you, to find something other than the point to argue about and derail the conversation. I did not fix it as I wanted the editors here to see the issue first, as I'm sure leaving it up 1 more day would not change anything. My fix does not give season any preference over series, want to use series in your infobox? go ahead and use it instead of the season param. And yes, by stonewalling this fix you are actively advocating for keeping faulty code, a code which does unnecessary ParserFunctions. Also, don't assume my coding or comprehension skills. If you can't understand anything in the discussion, either ask, or stay away from it - Do as you preach and stop attacking. -- Gonnym ( talk) 14:37, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
as is common with you, to find something other than the point to argue about and derail the conversation- Pleas be civil and stop attacking other editors. This only ensures that other editorswill not respond to you and can result in blocks. So far, you've attacked me here and on my talk page and that is unnaceptable. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 14:48, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
When this infobox is used with {{ DISPLAYTITLE}}, a glitch occurs resulting in a blank line at the top of an article (see Fire and Blood (Game of Thrones), Pilot (American Horror Story), and Wildfire (The Walking Dead) for examples). Does anyone know how to fix this? -- Ted Edwards 22:24, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
{{If empty |{{{showrunner|}}} |{{{executive_producer|}}} }}
(with the label: {{#if: {{{showrunner|}}} | Showrunner | Executive producer }}
). If we just leave it as EP then scripted shows with showrunner credits could even have 10 named personal (look at the series list at
Lost (TV series)). Also worth noting, that we shouldn't take the US style of credit and apply it to the whole world. In a lot of places in the world, a "producer" is the highest TV credit (same as film). So going back to the previous example, the result should be {{If empty |{{{showrunner|}}} |{{{executive_producer|}}} |{{{producer|}}} }}
(with the label: {{#if: {{{showrunner|}}} | Showrunner | {{#if: {{{executive_producer|}}} | Executive producer | Producer }} }}
) - this way we make sure that we cover all types of highest credit, and prevent the infobox from having multiple producer credits. --
Gonnym (
talk)
17:07, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
|producer=
parameter is removed from this template, or the documentation is changed to reflect what actual producer credit we are searching for, as it currently does say that it should be the showrunner. --
Gonnym (
talk)
16:01, 5 February 2019 (UTC)The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
{{#if:{{{season|}}}|Season {{{season|}}}<br />}}{{#if:{{{series_no|}}}|{{nowrap|Series {{{series_no|}}}}}<br />}}
{{#if:{{{season|}}}|Season {{{season|}}}<br />|{{#if:{{{series_no|}}}|{{nowrap|Series {{{series_no|}}}}}<br />}}}}
|season=
or the |series_no=
value. This follows the documentation which states The number of the season (or series) this episode is part of. Use either season or series_no, but not both. Typically, "series" is used for television series produced within the United Kingdom while "season" is used for American television series. An added advantage of this code is that it reduces the amount of Parser Functions calls (#if checks) in most cases to just one, instead of the always two. Important to note, this change does not change the usage of the template, its layout or how its viewed, but it fixes an issue which appears in articles where editors mistakenly use both
|season=
and |series_no=
, where |series_no=
is used for values other than what is intended for and also neglect to use |episode=
. This also is consistent with other code used in this template in the same situation, where {{#if:{{{release_date|}}}|release|air}}
uses either |release_date=
or |airdate=
, but not both. --
Gonnym (
talk)
15:22, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
|season=
and |series=
parameters and the documentation says Note: "series" and "season" cannot be included in the same tablein the same fashion as this template does and when trying to use both, only
|season=
will appear. See below:
No. overall |
No. in season | Title |
---|
"Infobox television episode/Archive 4" | |
---|---|
Episode no. | Season 11 Series 12 Episode 1 |
season
over series_no
, which is unnaceptable. In the event that an infobox uses both fields, but is actually supposed to use series_no
, the display will be "Season", not "Series", making that article incorrect. As I've said in the above section we should not be favouring one terminology over another, in the same way that we don't favour US over UK spelling unless
strong national ties apply, or US over UK or even ISO dates per
MOS:DATE. This infobox is used in 9,866 articles and we can't introduce hacks that fix one minor issue but might be introducing errors into thousands of articles. The resolution to the problem that Gonnym sees requires either a more sophisticated resolution or none at all. --
AussieLegend (
✉)
15:55, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Per the result of
Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 March 17#Template:Infobox Inhumans IMAX, {{
Infobox Inhumans IMAX}} is to be merged into this template. The question is should the merger be done, as in, what parameters should be added to the base infobox and what should use the |module=
parameter directly in the article. Without adding any new parameter, this is how using all unique IMAX parameters would look with |module=
being used:
Template:Infobox television episode/testcases. I personally don't like the layout as it separates fields that should be next to one another and would rather add new fields to make it look better. --
Gonnym (
talk)
12:00, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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Could we please add a second season article field, so that two different season-articles can be listed together in a single infobox. This would help in awkward cases were multi-part episodes are aired apart in different seasons. Example 1, Example 2, Example 3. Grapesoda22 ( ✉) 01:57, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
{{
edit template-protected}}
template. --
AussieLegend (
✉)
06:14, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
"Time's Arrow" | |
---|---|
Star Trek: The Next Generation episodes | |
Episode nos. | Season 5 & 6 Episodes 26 & 1 |
Production code | 226 & 227 |
(" Time's Arrow")
Grapesoda22 ( ✉) 16:06, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
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Please add a parameter named "image_upright", alias "upright", to the image section as per Module:InfoboxImage and MOS:UPRIGHT. - BRAINULATOR9 ( TALK) 15:55, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
I see no one has attended to this yet. If it's as simple as AussieLegend said, then this is now in the sandbox — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 07:39, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
Infobox television episode
to Infobox television episode/sandbox
. The image will be slightly wider. If you add |image_upright=1
to the previewed edit, the width of the image should be the same in the article and in the preview.
Dreamy Jazz 🎷
talk to me |
my contributions
14:52, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
|image_upright=1
results in an image that is narrower than the infobox and consequently leaves a lot of whitespace around the image. It's a good size when you can find free portrait images but alas, most TV episodes have to rely in landscape screengrabs. --
AussieLegend (
✉)
15:09, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
As per Gonnym's request here, I'm reposting my comments on Template:Television episode short description where apparently more eyes will see them:
— Joeyconnick ( talk) 18:02, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
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Add the ability for this infobox to be used as a child infobox, by adding:
| child = {{{child|}}}
This would allow this template to be used in {{ Infobox television crossover episode}}, which would make that template more uniform with this one. TheTVExpert ( talk) 14:11, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
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Replace | header24 = {{If empty |{{{guests_title|}}} |{{nowrap|Guest appearance(s)}} }} with | header24 = {{#if: {{{guests|}}} | {{If empty |{{{guests_title|}}} |{{nowrap|Guest appearance(s)}} }} }}. To not cause the "Guest appearance(s)" header to show up when |guest=
is not used, but |module=
is. See
the testcases and
Bart the Daredevil for examples.
TheTVExpert (
talk)
18:11, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
|autoheaders=y
and a blank header (saves on #if statements).
Primefac (
talk)
20:38, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
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The "autoheaders" parm is duplicated, with values "yes" and "y". Davemck ( talk) 20:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC) Davemck ( talk) 20:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Problem with this:
Issue: it produces an either/or situation. Air date is only displayed if release date is empty.
What if both dates are important though? For example with s10e1 premiere of Walking Dead, it was streamed 29 sep 2019, televised 6 oct 2019. Template prevents me from displaying both. You should be able to display both. 64.228.90.251 ( talk) 18:58, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
{{{airdate}}}
in that case. All airdates are "release dates", but not all releases are "aired" (as in over-the-air/broadcast). I don't see why we need both in the /doc if only one is used. --
Netoholic
@
19:09, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
|airdate=
shouldn't be depreciated, because an article for a "traditional" weekly network series should be using "airdate" to have the label state "Original air date", while an episode for a series released on a streaming service all at once, would use |release_date=
for the label to be "Original release date". The documentation has this stated. It's the same reasoning there's the option in {{
Episode table}} to use either airdate or release in the column text. -
Favre1fan93 (
talk)
21:37, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
I think this needs a little bit of a refresh, given the intent for the parameter is to include the series' showrunners. As it is currently, just having |producer=
and the label say "Produced by" doesn't easily indicate who should be included in the parameter. A few changes I think could be made: first, the parameter becomes |executive_producer=
and the label becomes "Executive produced by"; and second, we create parameter aliases |showrunner=
and |head_writer=
, which in turn would change the labels to "Showrunner" and "Head writer" (which doesn't fit with the current labeling scheme), so if there are instances where a show clearly has someone in either of these roles, that's what is used. -
Favre1fan93 (
talk)
15:43, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
There seems to be a problem rendering titles for television episodes if they include an apostrophe in the disambiguation modifier (for example: Torpedo (Bob's Burgers) or The Sound of Silence (Grey's Anatomy)). I've narrowed it down to a conflict between {{ DISPLAYTITLE}} and {{ infobox television episode}}, but can't determine what parameter needs to change. I notice the title will render correctly if I place {{ DISPLAYTITLE}} after the episode infobox - but I still get the DISPLAY TITLE warning. Is there a work around? Hoof Hearted ( talk) 20:24, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
|no_italic=yes
in the infobox to disable it setting it. --
Gonnym (
talk)
20:31, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
@
Gonnym: I found another case that isn't rendering titles correctly. See
Episode 1 (Ashes to Ashes series 1), which should only italicize the show name in the disambiguation, i.e. Episode 1 (Ashes to Ashes series 1) - assuming this article is named correctly. I can't recall other examples, but I seem to remember some articles being named "...(TV show episode)" Would this be a good time to turn on |no_italic=yes
?
Hoof Hearted (
talk)
14:18, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
I propose to remove the following parameters from the infobox:
|awards=
- a typical award consists of the award giver, the category and the nominee - these values are way to big to add to the infobox without it spreading over multiple lines. We end up with entries like:
|child=
was added at
Template talk:Infobox television episode/Archive 4#Template-protected edit request on 15 May 2020 with the rational of it being used in
Template:Infobox television crossover episode. There is never a reason to use that as a child of the crossover one as that will make the template incredibly large, which is why it was setup the way it is. It has also remained unused for over a year.
Gonnym (
talk)
15:52, 1 July 2021 (UTC)@
Gonnym: The removal of |multi_episodes=
poses a problem in cases were a series has
special episodes, in multiple parts, that are not counted as episodes in the main series.
[example] Another update that poses an issue is the removal of the parenthesis around the "s" in Guest appearance header. There are numerous examples of episodes that only have one single guest, and having this strictly plural-only header results in several pages being mislabeled. It is for those reasons I am requesting for these two changes to be reverted. I do find the other changes helpful though.
Grapesoda22 (
talk)
00:43, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
Looking at article
The Bed of Nails (Yes Minister) which uses |series_no=
gives a short description of "5th episode of the third season of Yes Minister". I would have expected this to be "5th episode of the third series of Yes Minister".
Keith D (
talk)
11:58, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
I've made several behind the scenes updates in the /sandbox.
|title=
parameter will now use {{
Space+single}} and {{
Single+space}} if needed. This was added as I've noticed that articles such as
Bart Gets an 'F' and
'Round Springfield already manually added these fixes. This will create a consistent fix across all articles needing it.|episode_list=
is used as is, if it doesn't find it creates a link.|episode_list=
isn't used but |series=
is, the infobox creates an automatic link to "List of series-link episodes".|title=
which doesn't match {{
PAGENAMEBASE}} are placed in
Category:Pages using infobox television episode with non-matching title. I've already cleaned quite a few from here (as this is already live) and it seems a lot of the differences were either vandalism or inconsistencies in spelling.|series=
, |prev=
or |next=
with unlinked values will be placed in
Category:Pages using infobox television episode with unlinked values.
|series=
, |prev=
, |next=
, |episode_list=
with bold or italics (for |episode_list=
also "]]") will be placed in
Category:Pages using infobox television episode with incorrectly formatted values.
|rprev=
and |rnext=
.|release_date=
or |airdate=
are now checked to make sure they use {{
Start date}} like the other television infoboxes. If they aren't, they are placed in
Category:Pages using infobox television with nonstandard dates|multi_episodes=
is no longer needed as the template can automatically extract that based on the input.Feel free to comment or ask any questions. Gonnym ( talk) 12:07, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
At " Prince Andrew & the Epstein Scandal", there's a need to suppress the default "List of episodes" redlink, as no list of Newsnight episodes exists (including at the page Newsnight itself, which is already linked in the infobox anyway). No list of episodes page would be appropriate per WP:IINFO; god knows how many episodes there have been but 5 days a week for 40 years (10,000 or so) is a starting approximation. This is, genuinely, one of the single-digit number of notable episodes of the programme. — Bilorv ( talk) 16:02, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
|episode_list=no
. Is that good?
Gonnym (
talk)
15:20, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
I noticed when a reference is placed beside the episode number in the infobox, it is being displayed as "Episode nos." and saying it's "Episodes 1". See various Seinfeld articles such as " The Seinfeld Chronicles" as an example. Drovethrughosts ( talk) 21:55, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
The template's documentation says to use {{
Plainlist}} or {{
Unbulleted list}} when adding multiple values for a parameter. I was looking recently at @
Nardog's comment
Template talk:Based on ((Speaking of which, why we don't simply attach the
) and decided to implement it here.
plainlist
class to all <td>...</td>
's of {{
Infobox film}} so that we wouldn't have to call {{
Plainlist}} each and every time is beyond me.)
I've consulted with the resident CSS expert @ Izno on their talk page and got the confirmation that such a change is viable and made the changes in the sandbox and added tests which worked as expected.
What this means?
Current system (usually one of the two):
<br>...</br>
tags.New system:
| director = only one value | writer = * writer one * writer two
The following parameters are the ones that will get this change:
|director=
|writer=
|story=
|teleplay=
|narrator=
|presenter=
|producer=
|music =
|photographer=
|editor =
|production=
|airdate=
Gain:
<br>...</br>
anymore).If there is consensus to implement this then I'll make a bot request to have current usages (the ones using the one of the manual list options) be simplified to bulleted lists. As always, if you have questions feel free to ask them. Gonnym ( talk) 15:44, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
|music=
entries use the same style of values as the |based_on=
one ('music' by 'artist'), should the /doc be updated to say to use {{
Work by author}} (a redirect of {{
Based on}}) in these situations?|based_on=
also receive the new class? Should |music=
not get it?
Gonnym (
talk)
09:34, 4 November 2021 (UTC)|based_on=
requires two values, so I wouldn't say it needs to be added to the list, but |music=
should be on there. Using {{
Work by author}} for each music entry makes sense to me. —
Bilorv (
talk)
10:48, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
<br>...</br>
(and its variations) into bulleted lists?
Gonnym (
talk)
08:56, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
Out of curiosity, will there be a tracking category for the pages that need this change, or will I just have to run through all 11,300 calls? Primefac ( talk) 15:14, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
|commentary=
parameter which is used in {{
Infobox Simpsons episode}} is currently not tracked (but should) as it is used in the nested infobox (will see how I fix that). Additional question for this task, are cosmetic changes to the infobox possible while list mark is fixed?
Gonnym (
talk)
19:22, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
The "photographer" parameter should be retitled "cinematography". Template:Infobox film and Template:Infobox television both use "cinematography" so why should this be any different? "Photographer" can also be confused with other roles in a show's production, such as on-set photographers who are actually taking photos, like a photographer would. Once this change is made, a bot can be set up to change the uses. Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 01:37, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
I think we should modify the auto short description such that it uses the same shorthand numbering format for seasons and episodes. It is awkward and inconsistent to have one use an abbreviation and the other spell it out.
So instead of:
1st episode of the second season of <series>
it would say:
1st episode of the 2nd season of <series>
This will also keep the descriptions as short as conveniently possible. Thrakkx ( talk) 02:17, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
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Is there a reason why the infobox will show both |season=
and |series_no=
values and not just one? While not that common, some editors are mistaking one for the episode value as can be seen
Final episode of The Colbert Report and
The Color of Friendship (1981 film), while a fix would be pretty simple. Any objections to limiting this to show only one? --
Gonnym (
talk)
14:49, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
season
or series_no
, but not both. Typically, "series" is used for television series produced within the United Kingdom while "season" is used for American television series." In
Final episode of The Colbert Report the infobox is saying the episode is both in the 11th season and the 1,447th series. The correct field entry should be |episode=160
as the episode was the 160th in the season.
The Color of Friendship (1981 film) had a similar error. --
AussieLegend (
✉)
08:36, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
why the infobox will show bothand the answer was immediately clear to me after looking at the examples that you provided. The documentation says not to use both but someone had at both articles. You don't use both because because it's a simple terminology issue. You obviously weren't clear about that because you had to ask on my talk page. [1] The only fix that was required for the examples you provided was for editors to use the infobox correctly, in accordance with the instructions. Your suggested fix seems to prioritise|season=
and|series_no=
values and not just one
|season=
over |series_no=
which means that articles that use both but which actually should only be using |series_no=
would be incorrect. --
AussieLegend (
✉)
09:10, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
|season=
over |series_no=
which happens for two reasons. The first, is that season is used in much more countries around the world AND in much more articles in en.wiki, hence logically, that should be the one it checks first. Secondly, the current code is "wasteful" by the fact that it does two if
checks, while my code reduces that in most scenarios to only one. If the doc says to use only one and not both, this is really a non-issue, if the infobox shows |season=
over |series_no=
then just change the param and it's fixed, not sure why you insist in having faulty code. This is the same scenario with |release_date=
and |airdate=
- we show one and not both. Do we really need an RfC for this? --
Gonnym (
talk)
10:56, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
The first, is that season is used in much more countries around the world AND in much more articles in en.wiki, hence logically, that should be the one it checks first.- The problem with this assumption is that we don't favour any one spelling or use of terminology over another. Both "series" and "season" are used widely and we can't make any preference for "season" over "series" especially when it will result in a large number of articles suppressing valid information.
not sure why you insist in having faulty code.- I'm not sure why you'd make that claim when I never said anything of the sort. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 14:25, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Any objections to limiting this to show only one?which you've still have not answered, as is common with you, to find something other than the point to argue about and derail the conversation. I did not fix it as I wanted the editors here to see the issue first, as I'm sure leaving it up 1 more day would not change anything. My fix does not give season any preference over series, want to use series in your infobox? go ahead and use it instead of the season param. And yes, by stonewalling this fix you are actively advocating for keeping faulty code, a code which does unnecessary ParserFunctions. Also, don't assume my coding or comprehension skills. If you can't understand anything in the discussion, either ask, or stay away from it - Do as you preach and stop attacking. -- Gonnym ( talk) 14:37, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
as is common with you, to find something other than the point to argue about and derail the conversation- Pleas be civil and stop attacking other editors. This only ensures that other editorswill not respond to you and can result in blocks. So far, you've attacked me here and on my talk page and that is unnaceptable. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 14:48, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
When this infobox is used with {{ DISPLAYTITLE}}, a glitch occurs resulting in a blank line at the top of an article (see Fire and Blood (Game of Thrones), Pilot (American Horror Story), and Wildfire (The Walking Dead) for examples). Does anyone know how to fix this? -- Ted Edwards 22:24, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
{{If empty |{{{showrunner|}}} |{{{executive_producer|}}} }}
(with the label: {{#if: {{{showrunner|}}} | Showrunner | Executive producer }}
). If we just leave it as EP then scripted shows with showrunner credits could even have 10 named personal (look at the series list at
Lost (TV series)). Also worth noting, that we shouldn't take the US style of credit and apply it to the whole world. In a lot of places in the world, a "producer" is the highest TV credit (same as film). So going back to the previous example, the result should be {{If empty |{{{showrunner|}}} |{{{executive_producer|}}} |{{{producer|}}} }}
(with the label: {{#if: {{{showrunner|}}} | Showrunner | {{#if: {{{executive_producer|}}} | Executive producer | Producer }} }}
) - this way we make sure that we cover all types of highest credit, and prevent the infobox from having multiple producer credits. --
Gonnym (
talk)
17:07, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
|producer=
parameter is removed from this template, or the documentation is changed to reflect what actual producer credit we are searching for, as it currently does say that it should be the showrunner. --
Gonnym (
talk)
16:01, 5 February 2019 (UTC)The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
{{#if:{{{season|}}}|Season {{{season|}}}<br />}}{{#if:{{{series_no|}}}|{{nowrap|Series {{{series_no|}}}}}<br />}}
{{#if:{{{season|}}}|Season {{{season|}}}<br />|{{#if:{{{series_no|}}}|{{nowrap|Series {{{series_no|}}}}}<br />}}}}
|season=
or the |series_no=
value. This follows the documentation which states The number of the season (or series) this episode is part of. Use either season or series_no, but not both. Typically, "series" is used for television series produced within the United Kingdom while "season" is used for American television series. An added advantage of this code is that it reduces the amount of Parser Functions calls (#if checks) in most cases to just one, instead of the always two. Important to note, this change does not change the usage of the template, its layout or how its viewed, but it fixes an issue which appears in articles where editors mistakenly use both
|season=
and |series_no=
, where |series_no=
is used for values other than what is intended for and also neglect to use |episode=
. This also is consistent with other code used in this template in the same situation, where {{#if:{{{release_date|}}}|release|air}}
uses either |release_date=
or |airdate=
, but not both. --
Gonnym (
talk)
15:22, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
|season=
and |series=
parameters and the documentation says Note: "series" and "season" cannot be included in the same tablein the same fashion as this template does and when trying to use both, only
|season=
will appear. See below:
No. overall |
No. in season | Title |
---|
"Infobox television episode/Archive 4" | |
---|---|
Episode no. | Season 11 Series 12 Episode 1 |
season
over series_no
, which is unnaceptable. In the event that an infobox uses both fields, but is actually supposed to use series_no
, the display will be "Season", not "Series", making that article incorrect. As I've said in the above section we should not be favouring one terminology over another, in the same way that we don't favour US over UK spelling unless
strong national ties apply, or US over UK or even ISO dates per
MOS:DATE. This infobox is used in 9,866 articles and we can't introduce hacks that fix one minor issue but might be introducing errors into thousands of articles. The resolution to the problem that Gonnym sees requires either a more sophisticated resolution or none at all. --
AussieLegend (
✉)
15:55, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Per the result of
Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 March 17#Template:Infobox Inhumans IMAX, {{
Infobox Inhumans IMAX}} is to be merged into this template. The question is should the merger be done, as in, what parameters should be added to the base infobox and what should use the |module=
parameter directly in the article. Without adding any new parameter, this is how using all unique IMAX parameters would look with |module=
being used:
Template:Infobox television episode/testcases. I personally don't like the layout as it separates fields that should be next to one another and would rather add new fields to make it look better. --
Gonnym (
talk)
12:00, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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Could we please add a second season article field, so that two different season-articles can be listed together in a single infobox. This would help in awkward cases were multi-part episodes are aired apart in different seasons. Example 1, Example 2, Example 3. Grapesoda22 ( ✉) 01:57, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
{{
edit template-protected}}
template. --
AussieLegend (
✉)
06:14, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
"Time's Arrow" | |
---|---|
Star Trek: The Next Generation episodes | |
Episode nos. | Season 5 & 6 Episodes 26 & 1 |
Production code | 226 & 227 |
(" Time's Arrow")
Grapesoda22 ( ✉) 16:06, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
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Please add a parameter named "image_upright", alias "upright", to the image section as per Module:InfoboxImage and MOS:UPRIGHT. - BRAINULATOR9 ( TALK) 15:55, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
I see no one has attended to this yet. If it's as simple as AussieLegend said, then this is now in the sandbox — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 07:39, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
Infobox television episode
to Infobox television episode/sandbox
. The image will be slightly wider. If you add |image_upright=1
to the previewed edit, the width of the image should be the same in the article and in the preview.
Dreamy Jazz 🎷
talk to me |
my contributions
14:52, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
|image_upright=1
results in an image that is narrower than the infobox and consequently leaves a lot of whitespace around the image. It's a good size when you can find free portrait images but alas, most TV episodes have to rely in landscape screengrabs. --
AussieLegend (
✉)
15:09, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
As per Gonnym's request here, I'm reposting my comments on Template:Television episode short description where apparently more eyes will see them:
— Joeyconnick ( talk) 18:02, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
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Add the ability for this infobox to be used as a child infobox, by adding:
| child = {{{child|}}}
This would allow this template to be used in {{ Infobox television crossover episode}}, which would make that template more uniform with this one. TheTVExpert ( talk) 14:11, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
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Replace | header24 = {{If empty |{{{guests_title|}}} |{{nowrap|Guest appearance(s)}} }} with | header24 = {{#if: {{{guests|}}} | {{If empty |{{{guests_title|}}} |{{nowrap|Guest appearance(s)}} }} }}. To not cause the "Guest appearance(s)" header to show up when |guest=
is not used, but |module=
is. See
the testcases and
Bart the Daredevil for examples.
TheTVExpert (
talk)
18:11, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
|autoheaders=y
and a blank header (saves on #if statements).
Primefac (
talk)
20:38, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
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The "autoheaders" parm is duplicated, with values "yes" and "y". Davemck ( talk) 20:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC) Davemck ( talk) 20:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Problem with this:
Issue: it produces an either/or situation. Air date is only displayed if release date is empty.
What if both dates are important though? For example with s10e1 premiere of Walking Dead, it was streamed 29 sep 2019, televised 6 oct 2019. Template prevents me from displaying both. You should be able to display both. 64.228.90.251 ( talk) 18:58, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
{{{airdate}}}
in that case. All airdates are "release dates", but not all releases are "aired" (as in over-the-air/broadcast). I don't see why we need both in the /doc if only one is used. --
Netoholic
@
19:09, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
|airdate=
shouldn't be depreciated, because an article for a "traditional" weekly network series should be using "airdate" to have the label state "Original air date", while an episode for a series released on a streaming service all at once, would use |release_date=
for the label to be "Original release date". The documentation has this stated. It's the same reasoning there's the option in {{
Episode table}} to use either airdate or release in the column text. -
Favre1fan93 (
talk)
21:37, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
I think this needs a little bit of a refresh, given the intent for the parameter is to include the series' showrunners. As it is currently, just having |producer=
and the label say "Produced by" doesn't easily indicate who should be included in the parameter. A few changes I think could be made: first, the parameter becomes |executive_producer=
and the label becomes "Executive produced by"; and second, we create parameter aliases |showrunner=
and |head_writer=
, which in turn would change the labels to "Showrunner" and "Head writer" (which doesn't fit with the current labeling scheme), so if there are instances where a show clearly has someone in either of these roles, that's what is used. -
Favre1fan93 (
talk)
15:43, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
There seems to be a problem rendering titles for television episodes if they include an apostrophe in the disambiguation modifier (for example: Torpedo (Bob's Burgers) or The Sound of Silence (Grey's Anatomy)). I've narrowed it down to a conflict between {{ DISPLAYTITLE}} and {{ infobox television episode}}, but can't determine what parameter needs to change. I notice the title will render correctly if I place {{ DISPLAYTITLE}} after the episode infobox - but I still get the DISPLAY TITLE warning. Is there a work around? Hoof Hearted ( talk) 20:24, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
|no_italic=yes
in the infobox to disable it setting it. --
Gonnym (
talk)
20:31, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
@
Gonnym: I found another case that isn't rendering titles correctly. See
Episode 1 (Ashes to Ashes series 1), which should only italicize the show name in the disambiguation, i.e. Episode 1 (Ashes to Ashes series 1) - assuming this article is named correctly. I can't recall other examples, but I seem to remember some articles being named "...(TV show episode)" Would this be a good time to turn on |no_italic=yes
?
Hoof Hearted (
talk)
14:18, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
I propose to remove the following parameters from the infobox:
|awards=
- a typical award consists of the award giver, the category and the nominee - these values are way to big to add to the infobox without it spreading over multiple lines. We end up with entries like:
|child=
was added at
Template talk:Infobox television episode/Archive 4#Template-protected edit request on 15 May 2020 with the rational of it being used in
Template:Infobox television crossover episode. There is never a reason to use that as a child of the crossover one as that will make the template incredibly large, which is why it was setup the way it is. It has also remained unused for over a year.
Gonnym (
talk)
15:52, 1 July 2021 (UTC)@
Gonnym: The removal of |multi_episodes=
poses a problem in cases were a series has
special episodes, in multiple parts, that are not counted as episodes in the main series.
[example] Another update that poses an issue is the removal of the parenthesis around the "s" in Guest appearance header. There are numerous examples of episodes that only have one single guest, and having this strictly plural-only header results in several pages being mislabeled. It is for those reasons I am requesting for these two changes to be reverted. I do find the other changes helpful though.
Grapesoda22 (
talk)
00:43, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
Looking at article
The Bed of Nails (Yes Minister) which uses |series_no=
gives a short description of "5th episode of the third season of Yes Minister". I would have expected this to be "5th episode of the third series of Yes Minister".
Keith D (
talk)
11:58, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
I've made several behind the scenes updates in the /sandbox.
|title=
parameter will now use {{
Space+single}} and {{
Single+space}} if needed. This was added as I've noticed that articles such as
Bart Gets an 'F' and
'Round Springfield already manually added these fixes. This will create a consistent fix across all articles needing it.|episode_list=
is used as is, if it doesn't find it creates a link.|episode_list=
isn't used but |series=
is, the infobox creates an automatic link to "List of series-link episodes".|title=
which doesn't match {{
PAGENAMEBASE}} are placed in
Category:Pages using infobox television episode with non-matching title. I've already cleaned quite a few from here (as this is already live) and it seems a lot of the differences were either vandalism or inconsistencies in spelling.|series=
, |prev=
or |next=
with unlinked values will be placed in
Category:Pages using infobox television episode with unlinked values.
|series=
, |prev=
, |next=
, |episode_list=
with bold or italics (for |episode_list=
also "]]") will be placed in
Category:Pages using infobox television episode with incorrectly formatted values.
|rprev=
and |rnext=
.|release_date=
or |airdate=
are now checked to make sure they use {{
Start date}} like the other television infoboxes. If they aren't, they are placed in
Category:Pages using infobox television with nonstandard dates|multi_episodes=
is no longer needed as the template can automatically extract that based on the input.Feel free to comment or ask any questions. Gonnym ( talk) 12:07, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
At " Prince Andrew & the Epstein Scandal", there's a need to suppress the default "List of episodes" redlink, as no list of Newsnight episodes exists (including at the page Newsnight itself, which is already linked in the infobox anyway). No list of episodes page would be appropriate per WP:IINFO; god knows how many episodes there have been but 5 days a week for 40 years (10,000 or so) is a starting approximation. This is, genuinely, one of the single-digit number of notable episodes of the programme. — Bilorv ( talk) 16:02, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
|episode_list=no
. Is that good?
Gonnym (
talk)
15:20, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
I noticed when a reference is placed beside the episode number in the infobox, it is being displayed as "Episode nos." and saying it's "Episodes 1". See various Seinfeld articles such as " The Seinfeld Chronicles" as an example. Drovethrughosts ( talk) 21:55, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
The template's documentation says to use {{
Plainlist}} or {{
Unbulleted list}} when adding multiple values for a parameter. I was looking recently at @
Nardog's comment
Template talk:Based on ((Speaking of which, why we don't simply attach the
) and decided to implement it here.
plainlist
class to all <td>...</td>
's of {{
Infobox film}} so that we wouldn't have to call {{
Plainlist}} each and every time is beyond me.)
I've consulted with the resident CSS expert @ Izno on their talk page and got the confirmation that such a change is viable and made the changes in the sandbox and added tests which worked as expected.
What this means?
Current system (usually one of the two):
<br>...</br>
tags.New system:
| director = only one value | writer = * writer one * writer two
The following parameters are the ones that will get this change:
|director=
|writer=
|story=
|teleplay=
|narrator=
|presenter=
|producer=
|music =
|photographer=
|editor =
|production=
|airdate=
Gain:
<br>...</br>
anymore).If there is consensus to implement this then I'll make a bot request to have current usages (the ones using the one of the manual list options) be simplified to bulleted lists. As always, if you have questions feel free to ask them. Gonnym ( talk) 15:44, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
|music=
entries use the same style of values as the |based_on=
one ('music' by 'artist'), should the /doc be updated to say to use {{
Work by author}} (a redirect of {{
Based on}}) in these situations?|based_on=
also receive the new class? Should |music=
not get it?
Gonnym (
talk)
09:34, 4 November 2021 (UTC)|based_on=
requires two values, so I wouldn't say it needs to be added to the list, but |music=
should be on there. Using {{
Work by author}} for each music entry makes sense to me. —
Bilorv (
talk)
10:48, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
<br>...</br>
(and its variations) into bulleted lists?
Gonnym (
talk)
08:56, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
Out of curiosity, will there be a tracking category for the pages that need this change, or will I just have to run through all 11,300 calls? Primefac ( talk) 15:14, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
|commentary=
parameter which is used in {{
Infobox Simpsons episode}} is currently not tracked (but should) as it is used in the nested infobox (will see how I fix that). Additional question for this task, are cosmetic changes to the infobox possible while list mark is fixed?
Gonnym (
talk)
19:22, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
The "photographer" parameter should be retitled "cinematography". Template:Infobox film and Template:Infobox television both use "cinematography" so why should this be any different? "Photographer" can also be confused with other roles in a show's production, such as on-set photographers who are actually taking photos, like a photographer would. Once this change is made, a bot can be set up to change the uses. Some Dude From North Carolina ( talk) 01:37, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
I think we should modify the auto short description such that it uses the same shorthand numbering format for seasons and episodes. It is awkward and inconsistent to have one use an abbreviation and the other spell it out.
So instead of:
1st episode of the second season of <series>
it would say:
1st episode of the 2nd season of <series>
This will also keep the descriptions as short as conveniently possible. Thrakkx ( talk) 02:17, 3 August 2022 (UTC)