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Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be)#Normie Rowe uses the soon-to-be-merged "infobox single
". Currently, I see "I Confess" / "String Module Error: Match not found"
. On the other hand, "
Always Be My Baby" doesn't have that problem. Maybe it's related to two-track releases? --
George Ho (
talk)
02:00, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
<br>(year)
(where year is the year of release) to the end of the text.
Jc86035 (
talk) Use {{
re|Jc86035}}When was it decided to do away with the option of using commas as separators, as an alternative to the various list templates? (cf Note 2 in previous version.) I remember us talking about it but I hadn't got the impression we were going forward with it … no?
One thing, and I'm sure it's not a new addition: under album we say, "If it was originally released as a single, |album= should not be used, since it is not from the album, but later added to one." So does that mean a lead single, released a week or two before the album, and clearly marketed as representing the forthcoming album, shouldn't carry the album title? For example, is " Miss You" not from the album Some Girls?
Also – again, possibly something that's been in the documentation since the year dot – under released (and reinforced under format), we stipulate that the pertinent information is the first known release date. So, does that mean we're doing away with examples where arguably the most notable release and format for the track – a hit single issued months after the parent album – currently appears under released? Some examples: the Stones again, " Beast of Burden", issued on a single three months after Some Girls; Michael Jackson's " Billie Jean" and " Beat It"; countless others …
Finally, I'm confused by the chronology for double A-sides – by the fact that we're allowing for such a chronology. Is it really needed? I'm just imagining the result in infoboxes that already have two tiers of chronologies. Take " Day Tripper": is it necessary to let readers know that the next instance of a Beatles double A-side was "Eleanor Rigby" / "Yellow Submarine"?
Sorry if these comments appear to ignore the good work that's gone into this and focus only on the negative. I don't mean them to sound that way. (The words "welcome", "fart" and "spacesuit" come to mind, perhaps.) JG66 ( talk) 16:28, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
|A-side=
and |B-side=
now. Rest of it (genres, songwriters, etc.) is probably up to WikiProject policy and I would defer that to others who've spent more time in this area.
Jc86035 (
talk) Use {{
re|Jc86035}}|A-side=
/|B-side=
are separated by <br>
tags then {{
ubl}} will be used in place of the tags; and if there are otherwise more than two quotation marks then none will be removed (if I did it correctly).
Jc86035 (
talk) Use {{
re|Jc86035}}Since the infoboxes are now merged, the documentation needs to be clarified to address the different releases. The former infobox single included:
For Infobox song:
Some of the issues:
|type=song
or |type=single
be used? Should it be determined by which was released first or does any single release qualify for |type=single
? What about minor (specialty, limited, etc.) or secondary market releases?Comments
|type=
should reflect the most notable release: if the song charted or otherwise known as a single, |type=single
should be used. If an album track was released years later as a single or in a secondary market, etc., that is not otherwise notable, use |type=song
.|type=
, with only other notable releases added.— Ojorojo ( talk) 15:54, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
– JG66 ( talk) 09:42, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
|Released=
and |Length=
or class=hlist (or neither)? —
Ojorojo (
talk)
21:59, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
|A-side=
, |B-side=
, |released=
, and |length=
. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
18:28, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
<br />
tags in A-side/B-side to {{
ubl}}, although it could be changed to add regular bullets I guess.
Jc86035 (
talk) Use {{
re|Jc86035}}|recorded=
and |studio=
, I thought it would be easier to use the same for the other four (class=ubl doesn't seem to work and |
needs to be used instead of *
). The choice between {{
ubl}} and {{
hlist}} for each parameter would be a benefit, although it might complicate matters for the guideline and many editors. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
15:31, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
plainlist
.) I'll add the class for those parameters then.
Jc86035 (
talk) Use {{
re|Jc86035}}|A-side=
or |B-side=
(see A-side vs B-side in "Dream On" example on
Template:Infobox song/testcases#With extra releases). I'll explain this in the guidelines, unless you think it's worth changing. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
16:06, 9 July 2017 (UTC)I propose an addition to the song infobox which allows the addition of an uploaded open source version of the sheet music of the song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aschuess ( talk • contribs) 02:40, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
I plan to re-categorize "
No Me Ames" as promo single
, promo material
, or simply promo
because the song was never released as commercial single but received radio airplay instead. However, that would default to using the background color of song
or anything that is not single
. Can the promo-only singles use the same background color as song
or single
, or which other color is best suited for promo-only singles?
Also, what about color setup for download
or digital
, intended for singles whose only format are digital downloads?
George Ho (
talk)
22:58, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
Type
parameter. Before the merger of two infoboxes, I tried
switching templates a year ago; previously, "infobox song" didn't carry the infobox layout for singles. Someone else
switched it back, leading to
one discussion at an article talk page, then to
another discussion at WT:SONGS, which led to
"infobox single" becoming backwards-compatible with "infobox song". If I try changing from Single
to something else (i.e. using Song
by default), the change would be reverted.
George Ho (
talk)
01:09, 21 December 2017 (UTC)Should ghost producers be included in the Producer field? See this edit for context. -- ferret ( talk) 18:29, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Only if they're officially credited.-- Ilovetopaint ( talk) 18:40, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Should we not credit somebody who produces vocals alongside those that produce the music? Much more in pop music, the music and vocals are sometimes produced by different people. In my eyes, and where credit is due, if a song has both vocals and a music backing track and the liner notes make reference to both producer (vocals) and producer, both should be listed in the infobox and tracklisting notes. The article Record producer lists vocal coaching as a competency and the article talks both about the vocals and music. → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 19:48, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
@ TheSandDoctor, Jon Kolbert, X201, and Ojorojo: Thank you for continuing the infobox substitution process and fixing errors, which I didn't get to finish last year.
I'm not sure where to put this, but I was also planning to add something which would allow, in the singles chronologies and track listings, the addition of brackets (e.g. "live", "acoustic", "remix") after the double quotes and before the brackets containing the year or the track number. I tried testing this with
Module:Parse chronology, but I don't think I finished it and I'm not sure if it works. The module would allow, using Lua regexes, the display of e.g. "Song" (acoustic) where the input is Song (acoustic)
.
I now don't think doing it this way would be a good idea since it would be much easier to put it in new parameters such as |prev_track_type=
/ |prev_type=
, though this might require a bot run or a tracking category to find pages where some text needs to be moved outside the quotes. Currently the existence of brackets outside the quotes in the legacy parameters (commonly "(reissue)", which I personally don't think should be included in chronologies) causes a Module:String error. Do you think the the parameters should be added?
Jc86035 (
talk)
11:25, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
[Aa]coustic
, [Rr]emix
, etc. within the parameters would probably flag most of them; and many of them are in unformatted brackets before the year (some of those brackets, e.g. "feat. Artist", could be deleted semi-automatically or otherwise semi-automatically fixed). Currently the entire substitution is based on a complicated mess of
Module:String calls, although regular (non-Lua) regexes like those in pywikibot and AWB might be better for future edits.
Jc86035 (
talk)
13:15, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
|prev_title=
, |next_title=
, |prev_track=
, etc. in this template and in {{
Extra chronology}}; and the deprecated |Last single title=
, |Last single=
etc. in {{
Infobox single}} and {{
Extra chronology}}.
Jc86035 (
talk)
14:34, 24 April 2018 (UTC)Should Beats per minute be added, Wikidata has a matching field and it gives a simple way for readers to see if its a slow, fast or medium paced song
The last time we talked about this ( some 15 months ago) it seemed like there was enough of a consensus to get rid of the partial track listing from the template documentation. The only person in the discussion that wanted to retain the partial track listing was User:Gonejackal, later blocked as a sockpuppet. So can we revisit the issue and get rid of the partial track listing? Or can we simply act upon the apparent consensus from March–May 2017?
My problem with the partial track listing is that it bloats the infobox unnecessarily (see WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE), in by far the most cases it's unimportant what song came before and what song came after on the album, and if that information were actually important for a particular song, I think we should tell the reader in prose why it's important, not just list it without context. Binksternet ( talk) 21:31, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
DO NOT INCLUDE TRACKLISTS IN INFOBOXES as they serve as needless filler and go against WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE. Snuggums ( talk / edits) 19:08, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
|prev_track=
, |this_no=
, |next_track=
and the earlier |prev_no=
, |next_no=
, and related partial track listing parameters from the infobox and
Template:Extra track listing? —
Ojorojo (
talk)
20:22, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
|type=single
, parameters for a partial album track listing (|prev_track=
, etc.) are added (along with |prev_title=
, |prev_year=
, etc.) when there were no fields. Is this what you mean by "as if they still exist"? Otherwise, can this function be removed? —
Ojorojo (
talk)
19:23, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
A RfC has been opened at WT:SONGS#RfC: Should album track listings be removed from infobox song?. Please add your comments there. — Ojorojo ( talk) 17:23, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
What would be the best way to handle songs (or for that matter, albums) where the producer is unknown? For instance, I've searched high and low and have been utterly unable to find out who produced Ronan (song) or All Cried Out (Kree Harrison song). Allmusic says nothing, and Google searching extensively gives only false positives. Should the field say "unknown" or something to that effect, to differentiate from instances where the "producer" field was just left blank by mistake? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 06:37, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
There is an RFC on removing genres from music infoboxes at WT:Manual of Style/Infoboxes#Request for comment on removing genres from musician, album, and song infoboxes — BillHPike ( talk, contribs) 16:22, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
@
Jc86035: picking up on the thread from your talk page... (putting here for transparency) Any reason you went with {{{A-side}}}
& {{{B-side}}}
instead of {{{a_side}}}
& {{{b_side}}}
? These would be much more consistent with the other parameters. I think we should make these all lowercase and underscored for consistency. --
Zackmann (
Talk to me/
What I been doing)
19:43, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
"In My Life" | |
---|---|
Song by the Beatles | |
from the album Rubber Soul | |
Released | 3 December 1965 |
Recorded | 18 and 22 October 1965, EMI Studios, London |
Length | 2:28 |
Label | Parlophone |
Songwriter(s) | Lennon–McCartney |
Producer(s) | George Martin |
External link | |
"In My Life" (Remastered 2009) on YouTube |
I think that, since we're already linking to music videos in the infobox, we ought to also include authorized YouTube videos that present an audio recording and nothing else. But I'm not sure of the best way to achieve this. The example on the right is how I'd imagine the addition of |youtube_id=
and |youtube_title=
.
Is this a good/bad idea? -- Ilovetopaint ( talk) 09:55, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
"My song" | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Song | ||||
singles chronology | ||||
|
I've been noticing a number of issues with the fact that the template is forcing quotes to be added to templates around the song titles. For example see
'Round Midnight (song) where the title is super confusing. Additionally if the {{{prev_title}}}
or {{{next_title}}}
contain more than just the song name, the quotes surround the entire value. For example see the template to the right. I don't see any reason for the quotes to be automatically added. --
Zackmann (
Talk to me/
What I been doing)
19:24, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
|prev_title=
and |next_title=
should only contain the song title. —
JJMC89 (
T·
C)
06:10, 18 December 2018 (UTC)Any thought on removing the format parameter from this infobox? It's not included on the album infobox, and I was wondering if it's even relevant since the format will, for the most part, just match the technology of the time it was released: 50s through early 80s: 7 inch or 45 rpm, 80 and 90s: cassette and CD, 2000s: CD and digital download, 2010s: digital download and streaming. Also, isn't the "format" for both downloads and streaming the same: digital. Is a download an actual format? Is the act of streaming music a format? Anyway, it seems unnecessary in the infobox, and if it is important to note, it can be done so in the text. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 16:13, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:Infobox song has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
"R.I.P." | |
---|---|
Single by Sofía Reyes | |
Language |
|
For the infoboxes of multilingual songs (see ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Multilingual songs), it would be useful to have bullet points be formatted into a hlist without having to transclude the hlist template (consistent with songwriters and producers). Minor but convenient addition. TheKaphox T 20:11, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Would it be possible to add a mixtape parameter like with the EP/album parameters. For example Don't Call Me Up is a single from Ivy to Roses which is a mixtape, not an album or EP. Cool Marc 09:07, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
album_type
field to cover all possibilities would be the way forward. -
X201 (
talk)
09:29, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
The parameter guidance for "cover" and "caption" is out-of-date. The caption "[Article name]" cover
is no longer automatically produced when |cover=
is used and |caption=
is missing or left blank. Propose to change the wording as follows:
Add an image of a sheet music cover, picture sleeve, or other image appropriate for the song. First, one must be uploaded (see
Wikipedia:Uploading images for details). Then, enter the file name (without File:) into the field, such as [Image Name].jpg
. This will automatically produce the caption "[Article name] cover" beneath the image if the
|caption=
field is not used.
If something other than the automatically generated "[Article name] cover" is desired, add the description here. If there is an image, a suitable caption may be added that follows
MOS:CAPTION (begins with a capital letter, no period at end if it is a sentence fragment, etc.) Please note that if the image is unambiguously a picture sleeve or record label for the release that is described in the infobox, then it is "self-captioning", and a caption is unneeded.
Sometimes my computer displays things differently than others; if the auto function still works, let me know or I'll go ahead with the changes.
—
Ojorojo (
talk)
21:17, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Should the first item in the "genre" parameter (for a song article) be capitalized? The infobox template for musical artists says "Most genres are not proper nouns and should not be capitalized. However, the first word in a list of multiple genres should be capitalized." But the template for song infoboxes doesn't mention capitalization either way. So...what's the proper formatting for song infoboxes? Thanks! Big universe ( talk) 03:42, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
A RfC which may affect this infobox's |studio=
and |venue=
parameters has been opened at
WT:WikiProject Music#Naming countries in infoboxes. Please add your comments there. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
17:21, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
As was successfully done for Infobox album (see discussion), I'd like to propose adding a short description to this template too. The code I've created in Template:Infobox song/sandbox generates short descriptions of the form "year type by artist", e.g "2000 single by Spice Girls" for Holler (Spice Girls song) or "1967 single by the Beatles" for Penny_Lane, which are generally improvements or as good as the Wikidata short descriptions (being often just "single" or "song"). Galobtter ( pingó mió) 04:59, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Fred Gandt ·
talk ·
contribs
17:14, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
{{infobox song}}
would have an arguable short desc if extracted from the infobox data, and how low that percentage would need to be to be acceptable? As long as the automatic short descs can be overridden by a manual {{short description}}
, and the percentage of whoopsies is acceptably low, we can always run around afterwards cleaning up.
Fred Gandt ·
talk ·
contribs
20:33, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Searching hastemplate:"Infobox song" insource:/\{\{ *infobox[_ ]+song.+\{\{ *infobox[_ ]+song/i
returned 4,506 articles with more than one {{infobox song}}
.
Fred Gandt ·
talk ·
contribs
01:17, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Fred Gandt ·
talk ·
contribs
16:42, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
{{Short description|none}}
to a couple, but it doesn't seem to overwrite the largely duplicated Wikidata description, such as
Mercy, Mercy (Don Covay song))|type=single
, most articles are about "songs", which may have been released as singles at some point. A fully-developed article addresses all aspects of a song, not just one aspect of it. Is there really a benefit in using "2000 single by X" vs. "2000 song by X"?|short_desc=
similar to what was suggested for infobox album?
[11] (It doesn't appear to have been added to the documentation to explain its use).Apparently, there are some problems to be worked out (see WT:Short description#Null value and WT:Short description#Double description). Using {{ Short description}} should overwrite descriptions from Wikidata and those auto-generated from the infoboxes. — Ojorojo ( talk) 15:19, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Please see Rain (Beatles song) or Old Brown Shoe. In both cases, the title of the other side of the 7-inch/45rpm single is also rendered bold, and the entry now begins and ends with two set of double quote marks/inverted commas. Anyone able to fix this perhaps? Many thanks, JG66 ( talk) 18:23, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
|title=
(although this is unnecessary, since it's auto generated from the article title & bolded) and not as |title2=
(which is not bolded). Extra chronologies for double A-sides should use:| misc = {{subst:Extra chronology | artist = [[The Beatles]] US | type = single | prev_title = [[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]] | prev_title2 = | prev_year = 1966 | title = Rain <!-- Article song title first in extra chrono; not auto generated, but will be bolded) --> | title2 = [[Paperback Writer]] | year = 1966 | next_title = [[Eleanor Rigby]] | next_title2 = [[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]] | next_year = 1966 }}
| chronology = [[The Beatles]] | prev_title = [[Get Back]] | prev_title2 = | prev_year = 1969 | title2 = [[The Ballad of John and Yoko]] <!-- Article song title automatically generated first & bolded--> | next_title = [[Something (Beatles song)|Something]] | next_title2 = [[Come Together]] | next_year = 1969
|title="
Paperback Writer" /<br />"Rain"
, both are bolded, since anything in that parameter is auto bolded. Please see my test edit
[12], which uses |title=Rain
and |title2=
Paperback Writer
in the extra chrono – only "Rain" is bolded. Anyway, this all might be moot, since the articles identify "Rain" as the B-side and "PW" as the A-side. Therefore, only the subject song should be included in the chrono. Two songs should only be included for double A-side singles. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
18:34, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
|title=
for both the regular and extra chronologies and they worked (I doubt these were intended, but ...). They might give you the order you want, but the article title song is still bolded (see tests
[13]
[14]). —
Ojorojo (
talk)
00:46, 5 October 2019 (UTC)Ojorojo: That looks great, especially the example (for Rain) with the second singles chronology. Big thanks for taking the time to experiment. JG66 ( talk) 14:56, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
|A-side=
and again in the chrono). Since the A-side is already clearly identified, having only the B-side in the chrono (as is the current practice) does not imply that it is the A-side. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
15:09, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
|A-side="Paperback Writer"
, which is sufficient, IMO. Check out other mostly 1960s songs where this practice has been common for some time (although even earlier, B-sides only used Infobox song instead of Infobox single, which now may seem like a better approach). I'm surprised this is being raised now; |title2=
(for double A-sides) was added May–June 2017 during the merger with Infobox single and the template upgrade and most of the chrono clutter was subsequently removed. I didn't support the idea – I prefer the "key facts" approach. If the reader needs to see discographical info, there are better ways to do it. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
17:55, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
A discussion has begun at
WT:ALBUMS#RfC on producer entries in infobox album regarding the |producer=
parameter used in that infobox. Please add your comments there. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
16:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
All downloads are digital by nature, therefore the word "digital" doesn't need to be included when downloads are mentioned in an article or infobox. It's as simple as that. Using it would be as ridiculous as using "digital streaming" instead of simply "streaming" in the infobox. I've been told that this is the "widely accepted" way of noting a download format in the infobox, which in turn means that we're promoting redundancies, which I thought was something we try to avoid when editing Wikipedia. Pinging @ Gagaluv1: and @ MarioSoulTruthFan: as I have been involved in edit exchanges with them both over this issue. I think it's time for a change here. Aria1561 ( talk) 04:43, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
{{
ping}}
template, nor look at the history of a page that wasn't mentioned at all. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
21:38, 15 February 2020 (UTC)|format=
even needed in infoboxes? It's not used for songs (just singles) and
Template:Infobox album doesn't use it. A discussion (
Template talk:Infobox song/Archive 8#Format) was began almost a year ago, but didn't go anywhere. Maybe it's time to revisit the issue. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
18:29, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Module:Parse chronology has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the module's entry on the Templates for discussion page. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:08, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Am I right in understanding Template:Infobox song#Track listing examples, in that a track listing template should not be included in the infobox if the song already has a navbox at the bottom of the article and appears in that navbox? An editor has been creating these templates for various albums, such as Template:Future Nostalgia (Dua Lipa album) track listing and Template:Rare (Selena Gomez album) track listing, but even though it's true that most of the songs have their own article (as is the case these days, usually most of the album's tracks will be released as singles of some sort), I thought that it wasn't standard practice to include these templates. Richard3120 ( talk) 19:12, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
|tracks=
is not used that much (676 out of 65K infoboxes
[15]) and maybe whether they should continue to be used could be revisited. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
15:00, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
There's an issue with linking the chronology of the singles for the band 7eventh Time Down. It can be seen What About Tonight (song) where it capitalizes the first letter, and there's no article at 7Eventh Time Down. It's easy enough to fix by using a redirect there, but it would also be easy enough to fix by not forcing a cap on the first letter in the word if it's not the first letter in the string. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 16:23, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
{{ucfirst:}}
parser function instead:
{{#invoke:String2 | ucfirst |7eventh Time Down}}
→ 7eventh Time Down{{ucfirst:7eventh Time Down}}
→ 7eventh Time Down|artist=
:
{{ucfirst:[[the Beatles]]}}
→
the Beatles@ Jonesey95: The artist name capitalization is causing issues for songs by artists whose names start with non-English characters, such as " La Vie en rose" by Édith Piaf. Is it possible to fix this? I think the issue stems from Module:String2, which only capitalizes the letters that are part of the alphabet of the wiki's content language, but I'm not sure what should replace it. Jc86035 ( talk) 10:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
I am seeing a growing trend of users uploading YouTube thumbnails, and digital .PDF booklet images as cover images for songs. Is this appropriate, per what the template calls for? livelikemusic talk! 20:57, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Livelikemusic: @ Ojorojo: @ JG66: I am busy reviewing "Follow God" for GA now and this is the first time I have seen a lyric video screenshot being used in the cover art parameter in the Infobox. I could not find any consensus or discussion about this type of use. I'm honestly not convinced if this is appropriate use as I don't see this screenshot being used to promote the single anywhere else. Any of your comments would be appreciated. Thank you. Cool Marc ✉ 21:42, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi, this is a very minor request, in the case of Pressure Drop (song), the single was used for two albums which are significant in their own ways. However, the infobox says, "From the album Monkey Man and The Harder They Come"... which is only decipherable because one album is linked and the other isn't. Honestly, I haven't noticed this anywhere else, but I just said I'd let you know it was there. ~ R. T. G 06:53, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
|album=
(if not released previously as a single). In this case, the 1970 album Monkey Man (no article to link to) appears to be the original release; it was later added to the various artists
The Harder They Come 1972 soundtrack. Identifying compilations, reissues, soundtracks, etc., is for the main body, such as in a "Releases" section, if noteworthy. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
13:58, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
See Talk:Brightest_Blue#RFC_on_Singles_from_the_Album. Thanks ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 11:13, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
When it comes to Template:Track listing, we list an individual's full name and link it once and from there on we only use their last name. I was wondering how this applies to this template. For example, on Wave (Meghan Trainor song), should it be listed as:
or
Both names are already mentioned ("Single by Meghan Trainor featuring Mike Sabath") so I'm just wondering what would the general guideline be in listing their full names again. — Status ( talk · contribs) 22:43, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
This issue was brought up previously by another user and including them, there were three users who supported the removal of the format parameter. I think that it's worth bringing up again, as I too agree that it should be removed for the reasons that were discussed previously. — Status ( talk · contribs) 22:39, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
There appears to be a clear consensus (between this discussion and the previous one) to remove the format parameter from this infobox. — Status ( talk · contribs) 18:12, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
|format=
and |Format=
from the main body of the template and the parameter error checks. The 50,000+ articles using these parameters will appear in ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:Pages using infobox song with unknown parameters. I did not modify the substing code. If there is post hoc objection to this removal, I'm happy to revert it or to have another template editor revert this change. –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
22:08, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:Infobox song has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
the "" should imo not be bolded in the infobox heading, as theyre obviously not part of the song name, e.g. "Songname"-------> "Songname" -- 91.64.153.66 ( talk) 20:35, 2 September 2020 (UTC) 91.64.153.66 ( talk) 20:35, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
{{
edit template-protected}}
template. –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
14:19, 3 September 2020 (UTC)Nearly eight years after the discussion recorded in Template talk:Infobox song/Archive 3#Quotation marks should not be in boldface, the template is still using boldface for the quote marks in the heading of the infobox. This is contrary to the way we do the styling of the corresponding article titles. The same issue is still handled much better by {{ Infobox television episode}}. — BarrelProof ( talk) 00:10, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
| aboveclass = summary
| abovestyle = background-color: {{Infobox song/color|{{{type|{{{Type|}}}}}} }};
| above = "{{if empty|{{{name|}}}|{{{Name|}}}|{{#if:{{{title2|}}}||{{{title|}}}}}|{{PAGENAMEBASE}}}}"
summary
class applies to the whole cell. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
08:11, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 5 | Archive 6 | Archive 7 | Archive 8 | Archive 9 |
Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be)#Normie Rowe uses the soon-to-be-merged "infobox single
". Currently, I see "I Confess" / "String Module Error: Match not found"
. On the other hand, "
Always Be My Baby" doesn't have that problem. Maybe it's related to two-track releases? --
George Ho (
talk)
02:00, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
<br>(year)
(where year is the year of release) to the end of the text.
Jc86035 (
talk) Use {{
re|Jc86035}}When was it decided to do away with the option of using commas as separators, as an alternative to the various list templates? (cf Note 2 in previous version.) I remember us talking about it but I hadn't got the impression we were going forward with it … no?
One thing, and I'm sure it's not a new addition: under album we say, "If it was originally released as a single, |album= should not be used, since it is not from the album, but later added to one." So does that mean a lead single, released a week or two before the album, and clearly marketed as representing the forthcoming album, shouldn't carry the album title? For example, is " Miss You" not from the album Some Girls?
Also – again, possibly something that's been in the documentation since the year dot – under released (and reinforced under format), we stipulate that the pertinent information is the first known release date. So, does that mean we're doing away with examples where arguably the most notable release and format for the track – a hit single issued months after the parent album – currently appears under released? Some examples: the Stones again, " Beast of Burden", issued on a single three months after Some Girls; Michael Jackson's " Billie Jean" and " Beat It"; countless others …
Finally, I'm confused by the chronology for double A-sides – by the fact that we're allowing for such a chronology. Is it really needed? I'm just imagining the result in infoboxes that already have two tiers of chronologies. Take " Day Tripper": is it necessary to let readers know that the next instance of a Beatles double A-side was "Eleanor Rigby" / "Yellow Submarine"?
Sorry if these comments appear to ignore the good work that's gone into this and focus only on the negative. I don't mean them to sound that way. (The words "welcome", "fart" and "spacesuit" come to mind, perhaps.) JG66 ( talk) 16:28, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
|A-side=
and |B-side=
now. Rest of it (genres, songwriters, etc.) is probably up to WikiProject policy and I would defer that to others who've spent more time in this area.
Jc86035 (
talk) Use {{
re|Jc86035}}|A-side=
/|B-side=
are separated by <br>
tags then {{
ubl}} will be used in place of the tags; and if there are otherwise more than two quotation marks then none will be removed (if I did it correctly).
Jc86035 (
talk) Use {{
re|Jc86035}}Since the infoboxes are now merged, the documentation needs to be clarified to address the different releases. The former infobox single included:
For Infobox song:
Some of the issues:
|type=song
or |type=single
be used? Should it be determined by which was released first or does any single release qualify for |type=single
? What about minor (specialty, limited, etc.) or secondary market releases?Comments
|type=
should reflect the most notable release: if the song charted or otherwise known as a single, |type=single
should be used. If an album track was released years later as a single or in a secondary market, etc., that is not otherwise notable, use |type=song
.|type=
, with only other notable releases added.— Ojorojo ( talk) 15:54, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
– JG66 ( talk) 09:42, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
|Released=
and |Length=
or class=hlist (or neither)? —
Ojorojo (
talk)
21:59, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
|A-side=
, |B-side=
, |released=
, and |length=
. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
18:28, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
<br />
tags in A-side/B-side to {{
ubl}}, although it could be changed to add regular bullets I guess.
Jc86035 (
talk) Use {{
re|Jc86035}}|recorded=
and |studio=
, I thought it would be easier to use the same for the other four (class=ubl doesn't seem to work and |
needs to be used instead of *
). The choice between {{
ubl}} and {{
hlist}} for each parameter would be a benefit, although it might complicate matters for the guideline and many editors. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
15:31, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
plainlist
.) I'll add the class for those parameters then.
Jc86035 (
talk) Use {{
re|Jc86035}}|A-side=
or |B-side=
(see A-side vs B-side in "Dream On" example on
Template:Infobox song/testcases#With extra releases). I'll explain this in the guidelines, unless you think it's worth changing. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
16:06, 9 July 2017 (UTC)I propose an addition to the song infobox which allows the addition of an uploaded open source version of the sheet music of the song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aschuess ( talk • contribs) 02:40, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
I plan to re-categorize "
No Me Ames" as promo single
, promo material
, or simply promo
because the song was never released as commercial single but received radio airplay instead. However, that would default to using the background color of song
or anything that is not single
. Can the promo-only singles use the same background color as song
or single
, or which other color is best suited for promo-only singles?
Also, what about color setup for download
or digital
, intended for singles whose only format are digital downloads?
George Ho (
talk)
22:58, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
Type
parameter. Before the merger of two infoboxes, I tried
switching templates a year ago; previously, "infobox song" didn't carry the infobox layout for singles. Someone else
switched it back, leading to
one discussion at an article talk page, then to
another discussion at WT:SONGS, which led to
"infobox single" becoming backwards-compatible with "infobox song". If I try changing from Single
to something else (i.e. using Song
by default), the change would be reverted.
George Ho (
talk)
01:09, 21 December 2017 (UTC)Should ghost producers be included in the Producer field? See this edit for context. -- ferret ( talk) 18:29, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Only if they're officially credited.-- Ilovetopaint ( talk) 18:40, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Should we not credit somebody who produces vocals alongside those that produce the music? Much more in pop music, the music and vocals are sometimes produced by different people. In my eyes, and where credit is due, if a song has both vocals and a music backing track and the liner notes make reference to both producer (vocals) and producer, both should be listed in the infobox and tracklisting notes. The article Record producer lists vocal coaching as a competency and the article talks both about the vocals and music. → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 19:48, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
@ TheSandDoctor, Jon Kolbert, X201, and Ojorojo: Thank you for continuing the infobox substitution process and fixing errors, which I didn't get to finish last year.
I'm not sure where to put this, but I was also planning to add something which would allow, in the singles chronologies and track listings, the addition of brackets (e.g. "live", "acoustic", "remix") after the double quotes and before the brackets containing the year or the track number. I tried testing this with
Module:Parse chronology, but I don't think I finished it and I'm not sure if it works. The module would allow, using Lua regexes, the display of e.g. "Song" (acoustic) where the input is Song (acoustic)
.
I now don't think doing it this way would be a good idea since it would be much easier to put it in new parameters such as |prev_track_type=
/ |prev_type=
, though this might require a bot run or a tracking category to find pages where some text needs to be moved outside the quotes. Currently the existence of brackets outside the quotes in the legacy parameters (commonly "(reissue)", which I personally don't think should be included in chronologies) causes a Module:String error. Do you think the the parameters should be added?
Jc86035 (
talk)
11:25, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
[Aa]coustic
, [Rr]emix
, etc. within the parameters would probably flag most of them; and many of them are in unformatted brackets before the year (some of those brackets, e.g. "feat. Artist", could be deleted semi-automatically or otherwise semi-automatically fixed). Currently the entire substitution is based on a complicated mess of
Module:String calls, although regular (non-Lua) regexes like those in pywikibot and AWB might be better for future edits.
Jc86035 (
talk)
13:15, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
|prev_title=
, |next_title=
, |prev_track=
, etc. in this template and in {{
Extra chronology}}; and the deprecated |Last single title=
, |Last single=
etc. in {{
Infobox single}} and {{
Extra chronology}}.
Jc86035 (
talk)
14:34, 24 April 2018 (UTC)Should Beats per minute be added, Wikidata has a matching field and it gives a simple way for readers to see if its a slow, fast or medium paced song
The last time we talked about this ( some 15 months ago) it seemed like there was enough of a consensus to get rid of the partial track listing from the template documentation. The only person in the discussion that wanted to retain the partial track listing was User:Gonejackal, later blocked as a sockpuppet. So can we revisit the issue and get rid of the partial track listing? Or can we simply act upon the apparent consensus from March–May 2017?
My problem with the partial track listing is that it bloats the infobox unnecessarily (see WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE), in by far the most cases it's unimportant what song came before and what song came after on the album, and if that information were actually important for a particular song, I think we should tell the reader in prose why it's important, not just list it without context. Binksternet ( talk) 21:31, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
DO NOT INCLUDE TRACKLISTS IN INFOBOXES as they serve as needless filler and go against WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE. Snuggums ( talk / edits) 19:08, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
|prev_track=
, |this_no=
, |next_track=
and the earlier |prev_no=
, |next_no=
, and related partial track listing parameters from the infobox and
Template:Extra track listing? —
Ojorojo (
talk)
20:22, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
|type=single
, parameters for a partial album track listing (|prev_track=
, etc.) are added (along with |prev_title=
, |prev_year=
, etc.) when there were no fields. Is this what you mean by "as if they still exist"? Otherwise, can this function be removed? —
Ojorojo (
talk)
19:23, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
A RfC has been opened at WT:SONGS#RfC: Should album track listings be removed from infobox song?. Please add your comments there. — Ojorojo ( talk) 17:23, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
What would be the best way to handle songs (or for that matter, albums) where the producer is unknown? For instance, I've searched high and low and have been utterly unable to find out who produced Ronan (song) or All Cried Out (Kree Harrison song). Allmusic says nothing, and Google searching extensively gives only false positives. Should the field say "unknown" or something to that effect, to differentiate from instances where the "producer" field was just left blank by mistake? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 06:37, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
There is an RFC on removing genres from music infoboxes at WT:Manual of Style/Infoboxes#Request for comment on removing genres from musician, album, and song infoboxes — BillHPike ( talk, contribs) 16:22, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
@
Jc86035: picking up on the thread from your talk page... (putting here for transparency) Any reason you went with {{{A-side}}}
& {{{B-side}}}
instead of {{{a_side}}}
& {{{b_side}}}
? These would be much more consistent with the other parameters. I think we should make these all lowercase and underscored for consistency. --
Zackmann (
Talk to me/
What I been doing)
19:43, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
"In My Life" | |
---|---|
Song by the Beatles | |
from the album Rubber Soul | |
Released | 3 December 1965 |
Recorded | 18 and 22 October 1965, EMI Studios, London |
Length | 2:28 |
Label | Parlophone |
Songwriter(s) | Lennon–McCartney |
Producer(s) | George Martin |
External link | |
"In My Life" (Remastered 2009) on YouTube |
I think that, since we're already linking to music videos in the infobox, we ought to also include authorized YouTube videos that present an audio recording and nothing else. But I'm not sure of the best way to achieve this. The example on the right is how I'd imagine the addition of |youtube_id=
and |youtube_title=
.
Is this a good/bad idea? -- Ilovetopaint ( talk) 09:55, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
"My song" | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Song | ||||
singles chronology | ||||
|
I've been noticing a number of issues with the fact that the template is forcing quotes to be added to templates around the song titles. For example see
'Round Midnight (song) where the title is super confusing. Additionally if the {{{prev_title}}}
or {{{next_title}}}
contain more than just the song name, the quotes surround the entire value. For example see the template to the right. I don't see any reason for the quotes to be automatically added. --
Zackmann (
Talk to me/
What I been doing)
19:24, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
|prev_title=
and |next_title=
should only contain the song title. —
JJMC89 (
T·
C)
06:10, 18 December 2018 (UTC)Any thought on removing the format parameter from this infobox? It's not included on the album infobox, and I was wondering if it's even relevant since the format will, for the most part, just match the technology of the time it was released: 50s through early 80s: 7 inch or 45 rpm, 80 and 90s: cassette and CD, 2000s: CD and digital download, 2010s: digital download and streaming. Also, isn't the "format" for both downloads and streaming the same: digital. Is a download an actual format? Is the act of streaming music a format? Anyway, it seems unnecessary in the infobox, and if it is important to note, it can be done so in the text. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 16:13, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:Infobox song has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
"R.I.P." | |
---|---|
Single by Sofía Reyes | |
Language |
|
For the infoboxes of multilingual songs (see ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Multilingual songs), it would be useful to have bullet points be formatted into a hlist without having to transclude the hlist template (consistent with songwriters and producers). Minor but convenient addition. TheKaphox T 20:11, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Would it be possible to add a mixtape parameter like with the EP/album parameters. For example Don't Call Me Up is a single from Ivy to Roses which is a mixtape, not an album or EP. Cool Marc 09:07, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
album_type
field to cover all possibilities would be the way forward. -
X201 (
talk)
09:29, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
The parameter guidance for "cover" and "caption" is out-of-date. The caption "[Article name]" cover
is no longer automatically produced when |cover=
is used and |caption=
is missing or left blank. Propose to change the wording as follows:
Add an image of a sheet music cover, picture sleeve, or other image appropriate for the song. First, one must be uploaded (see
Wikipedia:Uploading images for details). Then, enter the file name (without File:) into the field, such as [Image Name].jpg
. This will automatically produce the caption "[Article name] cover" beneath the image if the
|caption=
field is not used.
If something other than the automatically generated "[Article name] cover" is desired, add the description here. If there is an image, a suitable caption may be added that follows
MOS:CAPTION (begins with a capital letter, no period at end if it is a sentence fragment, etc.) Please note that if the image is unambiguously a picture sleeve or record label for the release that is described in the infobox, then it is "self-captioning", and a caption is unneeded.
Sometimes my computer displays things differently than others; if the auto function still works, let me know or I'll go ahead with the changes.
—
Ojorojo (
talk)
21:17, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Should the first item in the "genre" parameter (for a song article) be capitalized? The infobox template for musical artists says "Most genres are not proper nouns and should not be capitalized. However, the first word in a list of multiple genres should be capitalized." But the template for song infoboxes doesn't mention capitalization either way. So...what's the proper formatting for song infoboxes? Thanks! Big universe ( talk) 03:42, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
A RfC which may affect this infobox's |studio=
and |venue=
parameters has been opened at
WT:WikiProject Music#Naming countries in infoboxes. Please add your comments there. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
17:21, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
As was successfully done for Infobox album (see discussion), I'd like to propose adding a short description to this template too. The code I've created in Template:Infobox song/sandbox generates short descriptions of the form "year type by artist", e.g "2000 single by Spice Girls" for Holler (Spice Girls song) or "1967 single by the Beatles" for Penny_Lane, which are generally improvements or as good as the Wikidata short descriptions (being often just "single" or "song"). Galobtter ( pingó mió) 04:59, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Fred Gandt ·
talk ·
contribs
17:14, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
{{infobox song}}
would have an arguable short desc if extracted from the infobox data, and how low that percentage would need to be to be acceptable? As long as the automatic short descs can be overridden by a manual {{short description}}
, and the percentage of whoopsies is acceptably low, we can always run around afterwards cleaning up.
Fred Gandt ·
talk ·
contribs
20:33, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Searching hastemplate:"Infobox song" insource:/\{\{ *infobox[_ ]+song.+\{\{ *infobox[_ ]+song/i
returned 4,506 articles with more than one {{infobox song}}
.
Fred Gandt ·
talk ·
contribs
01:17, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Fred Gandt ·
talk ·
contribs
16:42, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
{{Short description|none}}
to a couple, but it doesn't seem to overwrite the largely duplicated Wikidata description, such as
Mercy, Mercy (Don Covay song))|type=single
, most articles are about "songs", which may have been released as singles at some point. A fully-developed article addresses all aspects of a song, not just one aspect of it. Is there really a benefit in using "2000 single by X" vs. "2000 song by X"?|short_desc=
similar to what was suggested for infobox album?
[11] (It doesn't appear to have been added to the documentation to explain its use).Apparently, there are some problems to be worked out (see WT:Short description#Null value and WT:Short description#Double description). Using {{ Short description}} should overwrite descriptions from Wikidata and those auto-generated from the infoboxes. — Ojorojo ( talk) 15:19, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Please see Rain (Beatles song) or Old Brown Shoe. In both cases, the title of the other side of the 7-inch/45rpm single is also rendered bold, and the entry now begins and ends with two set of double quote marks/inverted commas. Anyone able to fix this perhaps? Many thanks, JG66 ( talk) 18:23, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
|title=
(although this is unnecessary, since it's auto generated from the article title & bolded) and not as |title2=
(which is not bolded). Extra chronologies for double A-sides should use:| misc = {{subst:Extra chronology | artist = [[The Beatles]] US | type = single | prev_title = [[Nowhere Man (song)|Nowhere Man]] | prev_title2 = | prev_year = 1966 | title = Rain <!-- Article song title first in extra chrono; not auto generated, but will be bolded) --> | title2 = [[Paperback Writer]] | year = 1966 | next_title = [[Eleanor Rigby]] | next_title2 = [[Yellow Submarine (song)|Yellow Submarine]] | next_year = 1966 }}
| chronology = [[The Beatles]] | prev_title = [[Get Back]] | prev_title2 = | prev_year = 1969 | title2 = [[The Ballad of John and Yoko]] <!-- Article song title automatically generated first & bolded--> | next_title = [[Something (Beatles song)|Something]] | next_title2 = [[Come Together]] | next_year = 1969
|title="
Paperback Writer" /<br />"Rain"
, both are bolded, since anything in that parameter is auto bolded. Please see my test edit
[12], which uses |title=Rain
and |title2=
Paperback Writer
in the extra chrono – only "Rain" is bolded. Anyway, this all might be moot, since the articles identify "Rain" as the B-side and "PW" as the A-side. Therefore, only the subject song should be included in the chrono. Two songs should only be included for double A-side singles. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
18:34, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
|title=
for both the regular and extra chronologies and they worked (I doubt these were intended, but ...). They might give you the order you want, but the article title song is still bolded (see tests
[13]
[14]). —
Ojorojo (
talk)
00:46, 5 October 2019 (UTC)Ojorojo: That looks great, especially the example (for Rain) with the second singles chronology. Big thanks for taking the time to experiment. JG66 ( talk) 14:56, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
|A-side=
and again in the chrono). Since the A-side is already clearly identified, having only the B-side in the chrono (as is the current practice) does not imply that it is the A-side. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
15:09, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
|A-side="Paperback Writer"
, which is sufficient, IMO. Check out other mostly 1960s songs where this practice has been common for some time (although even earlier, B-sides only used Infobox song instead of Infobox single, which now may seem like a better approach). I'm surprised this is being raised now; |title2=
(for double A-sides) was added May–June 2017 during the merger with Infobox single and the template upgrade and most of the chrono clutter was subsequently removed. I didn't support the idea – I prefer the "key facts" approach. If the reader needs to see discographical info, there are better ways to do it. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
17:55, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
A discussion has begun at
WT:ALBUMS#RfC on producer entries in infobox album regarding the |producer=
parameter used in that infobox. Please add your comments there. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
16:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
All downloads are digital by nature, therefore the word "digital" doesn't need to be included when downloads are mentioned in an article or infobox. It's as simple as that. Using it would be as ridiculous as using "digital streaming" instead of simply "streaming" in the infobox. I've been told that this is the "widely accepted" way of noting a download format in the infobox, which in turn means that we're promoting redundancies, which I thought was something we try to avoid when editing Wikipedia. Pinging @ Gagaluv1: and @ MarioSoulTruthFan: as I have been involved in edit exchanges with them both over this issue. I think it's time for a change here. Aria1561 ( talk) 04:43, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
{{
ping}}
template, nor look at the history of a page that wasn't mentioned at all. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
21:38, 15 February 2020 (UTC)|format=
even needed in infoboxes? It's not used for songs (just singles) and
Template:Infobox album doesn't use it. A discussion (
Template talk:Infobox song/Archive 8#Format) was began almost a year ago, but didn't go anywhere. Maybe it's time to revisit the issue. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
18:29, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Module:Parse chronology has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the module's entry on the Templates for discussion page. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:08, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Am I right in understanding Template:Infobox song#Track listing examples, in that a track listing template should not be included in the infobox if the song already has a navbox at the bottom of the article and appears in that navbox? An editor has been creating these templates for various albums, such as Template:Future Nostalgia (Dua Lipa album) track listing and Template:Rare (Selena Gomez album) track listing, but even though it's true that most of the songs have their own article (as is the case these days, usually most of the album's tracks will be released as singles of some sort), I thought that it wasn't standard practice to include these templates. Richard3120 ( talk) 19:12, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
|tracks=
is not used that much (676 out of 65K infoboxes
[15]) and maybe whether they should continue to be used could be revisited. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
15:00, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
There's an issue with linking the chronology of the singles for the band 7eventh Time Down. It can be seen What About Tonight (song) where it capitalizes the first letter, and there's no article at 7Eventh Time Down. It's easy enough to fix by using a redirect there, but it would also be easy enough to fix by not forcing a cap on the first letter in the word if it's not the first letter in the string. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 16:23, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
{{ucfirst:}}
parser function instead:
{{#invoke:String2 | ucfirst |7eventh Time Down}}
→ 7eventh Time Down{{ucfirst:7eventh Time Down}}
→ 7eventh Time Down|artist=
:
{{ucfirst:[[the Beatles]]}}
→
the Beatles@ Jonesey95: The artist name capitalization is causing issues for songs by artists whose names start with non-English characters, such as " La Vie en rose" by Édith Piaf. Is it possible to fix this? I think the issue stems from Module:String2, which only capitalizes the letters that are part of the alphabet of the wiki's content language, but I'm not sure what should replace it. Jc86035 ( talk) 10:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
I am seeing a growing trend of users uploading YouTube thumbnails, and digital .PDF booklet images as cover images for songs. Is this appropriate, per what the template calls for? livelikemusic talk! 20:57, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Livelikemusic: @ Ojorojo: @ JG66: I am busy reviewing "Follow God" for GA now and this is the first time I have seen a lyric video screenshot being used in the cover art parameter in the Infobox. I could not find any consensus or discussion about this type of use. I'm honestly not convinced if this is appropriate use as I don't see this screenshot being used to promote the single anywhere else. Any of your comments would be appreciated. Thank you. Cool Marc ✉ 21:42, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi, this is a very minor request, in the case of Pressure Drop (song), the single was used for two albums which are significant in their own ways. However, the infobox says, "From the album Monkey Man and The Harder They Come"... which is only decipherable because one album is linked and the other isn't. Honestly, I haven't noticed this anywhere else, but I just said I'd let you know it was there. ~ R. T. G 06:53, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
|album=
(if not released previously as a single). In this case, the 1970 album Monkey Man (no article to link to) appears to be the original release; it was later added to the various artists
The Harder They Come 1972 soundtrack. Identifying compilations, reissues, soundtracks, etc., is for the main body, such as in a "Releases" section, if noteworthy. —
Ojorojo (
talk)
13:58, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
See Talk:Brightest_Blue#RFC_on_Singles_from_the_Album. Thanks ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 11:13, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
When it comes to Template:Track listing, we list an individual's full name and link it once and from there on we only use their last name. I was wondering how this applies to this template. For example, on Wave (Meghan Trainor song), should it be listed as:
or
Both names are already mentioned ("Single by Meghan Trainor featuring Mike Sabath") so I'm just wondering what would the general guideline be in listing their full names again. — Status ( talk · contribs) 22:43, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
This issue was brought up previously by another user and including them, there were three users who supported the removal of the format parameter. I think that it's worth bringing up again, as I too agree that it should be removed for the reasons that were discussed previously. — Status ( talk · contribs) 22:39, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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There appears to be a clear consensus (between this discussion and the previous one) to remove the format parameter from this infobox. — Status ( talk · contribs) 18:12, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
|format=
and |Format=
from the main body of the template and the parameter error checks. The 50,000+ articles using these parameters will appear in ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:Pages using infobox song with unknown parameters. I did not modify the substing code. If there is post hoc objection to this removal, I'm happy to revert it or to have another template editor revert this change. –
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the "" should imo not be bolded in the infobox heading, as theyre obviously not part of the song name, e.g. "Songname"-------> "Songname" -- 91.64.153.66 ( talk) 20:35, 2 September 2020 (UTC) 91.64.153.66 ( talk) 20:35, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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Jonesey95 (
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14:19, 3 September 2020 (UTC)Nearly eight years after the discussion recorded in Template talk:Infobox song/Archive 3#Quotation marks should not be in boldface, the template is still using boldface for the quote marks in the heading of the infobox. This is contrary to the way we do the styling of the corresponding article titles. The same issue is still handled much better by {{ Infobox television episode}}. — BarrelProof ( talk) 00:10, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
| aboveclass = summary
| abovestyle = background-color: {{Infobox song/color|{{{type|{{{Type|}}}}}} }};
| above = "{{if empty|{{{name|}}}|{{{Name|}}}|{{#if:{{{title2|}}}||{{{title|}}}}}|{{PAGENAMEBASE}}}}"
summary
class applies to the whole cell. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
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08:11, 10 October 2020 (UTC)