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Hi, I was wondering what people would think about adding ORCID numbers to this infobox? They are standarised unique numbers for individual authors and might help readers identify work better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamzze ( talk • contribs) 19:14, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
Not sure why the thesis link inside the {{ Infobox academic}} template is not displaying correctly for Ty Seidule but seems to work when the {{ Infobox academic}} template is embedded inside another template when used in Carol T. Christ. -- 64.202.138.67 ( talk) 02:08, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
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When editing an article containing {{ Infobox academic}} such as Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, we see errors stating Preview warning: Page using Template:Infobox person with unknown empty parameter "denomination", "salary", "weight" even if those parameters are not used in the article. Could someone please remove these unsupported parameters from {{ Infobox academic}} to remove these errors? Thanks! GoingBatty ( talk) 15:01, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
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The contents of the academic_advisors
field normally appear alongside the label "Academic advisors"; however, when the field is used alongside the doctoral_advisor
field, it uses the label "Other academic advisors" with a non-breaking space after the word "Other". In most use cases, this has the unfortunate side effect of substantially increasing the width of the label column and decreasing the width of the content column. While the effect of this may seem minor in theory, in practice this frequently results in numerous additional line breaks in the infobox, substantially increasing the infobox's length.
To avoid this, I would suggest that rather than using the label "Other[
]academic advisors" when the field is used alongside doctoral_advisor
, we instead use the label "Other advisors" in such cases. As the field normally appears under the heading "Academic background", this label would be no less precise than the existing one. And the fact that we are referring specifically to academic advisors is further reinforced by the fact that the label would only appear when immediately followed by the doctoral_advisor
field.
207.161.86.162 (
talk)
04:12, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
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Notes
I have almost emptied
Pages using infobox academic with unknown parameters. The few remaining articles need |burial_place=
and/or |resting_place=
. Since this is a standard parameter of {{
infobox person}}
, it should be available for academics just like most other bios.
Frietjes or
Jonesey (or anyone else), could you please add this.
MB
03:44, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Relevant and related discussion at Template talk:Infobox scientist#Award parameter. Skjoldbro ( talk) 16:32, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
It is better to added a parameter for the published books of an academician. Thanks, Hooman Mallahzadeh ( talk) 16:10, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
In the sandbox, I have a version of the template that uses Module:Template wrapper, which allows any parameter in {{ Infobox person}} to also be accepted here, while also accepting all existing parameters to this template. The downside is that all error checking is now handled by {{ Infobox person}}, so parameter errors will show up in Category:Pages using infobox person with unknown parameters.
What do editors think? Should I make the sandbox template go live? — hike395 ( talk) 05:27, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
Can H-index and Citation (as in citation count) parameters be added to this Infobox? KD HU ( talk) 15:13, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
The Academic background divider is often a bit obstructive for the many articles which have no other info that fits under that section besides education/alma mater, so it ends up pushing the infobox downward and overall looks awkward. Some of the parameters are also confusing and appear contradictory — i.e., Thesis goes under academic background but is thus excluded from Academic work, which sort of implies that a person's thesis is not a part of their academic work.
I think it would be great to have the infobox take on a similar formatting as Template:Infobox scientist, and it will provide the additional benefit of providing some consistency to readers. For example, Template:Infobox scientist actually puts Thesis under Scientific career, which is appropriate, and doesn't have any sort of divider at all; it would be less of an eyesore/confusion if Template:Infobox academic did the same.
I've attempted to replicate an example of what an article would look like without that large infobox divider in the GA John Hart Ely. GuardianH ( talk) 19:58, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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Hi, I was wondering what people would think about adding ORCID numbers to this infobox? They are standarised unique numbers for individual authors and might help readers identify work better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamzze ( talk • contribs) 19:14, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
Not sure why the thesis link inside the {{ Infobox academic}} template is not displaying correctly for Ty Seidule but seems to work when the {{ Infobox academic}} template is embedded inside another template when used in Carol T. Christ. -- 64.202.138.67 ( talk) 02:08, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
When editing an article containing {{ Infobox academic}} such as Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, we see errors stating Preview warning: Page using Template:Infobox person with unknown empty parameter "denomination", "salary", "weight" even if those parameters are not used in the article. Could someone please remove these unsupported parameters from {{ Infobox academic}} to remove these errors? Thanks! GoingBatty ( talk) 15:01, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The contents of the academic_advisors
field normally appear alongside the label "Academic advisors"; however, when the field is used alongside the doctoral_advisor
field, it uses the label "Other academic advisors" with a non-breaking space after the word "Other". In most use cases, this has the unfortunate side effect of substantially increasing the width of the label column and decreasing the width of the content column. While the effect of this may seem minor in theory, in practice this frequently results in numerous additional line breaks in the infobox, substantially increasing the infobox's length.
To avoid this, I would suggest that rather than using the label "Other[
]academic advisors" when the field is used alongside doctoral_advisor
, we instead use the label "Other advisors" in such cases. As the field normally appears under the heading "Academic background", this label would be no less precise than the existing one. And the fact that we are referring specifically to academic advisors is further reinforced by the fact that the label would only appear when immediately followed by the doctoral_advisor
field.
207.161.86.162 (
talk)
04:12, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
With academic advisors field
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References
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Without academic advisors field
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References
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Notes
I have almost emptied
Pages using infobox academic with unknown parameters. The few remaining articles need |burial_place=
and/or |resting_place=
. Since this is a standard parameter of {{
infobox person}}
, it should be available for academics just like most other bios.
Frietjes or
Jonesey (or anyone else), could you please add this.
MB
03:44, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Relevant and related discussion at Template talk:Infobox scientist#Award parameter. Skjoldbro ( talk) 16:32, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
It is better to added a parameter for the published books of an academician. Thanks, Hooman Mallahzadeh ( talk) 16:10, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
In the sandbox, I have a version of the template that uses Module:Template wrapper, which allows any parameter in {{ Infobox person}} to also be accepted here, while also accepting all existing parameters to this template. The downside is that all error checking is now handled by {{ Infobox person}}, so parameter errors will show up in Category:Pages using infobox person with unknown parameters.
What do editors think? Should I make the sandbox template go live? — hike395 ( talk) 05:27, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
Can H-index and Citation (as in citation count) parameters be added to this Infobox? KD HU ( talk) 15:13, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
The Academic background divider is often a bit obstructive for the many articles which have no other info that fits under that section besides education/alma mater, so it ends up pushing the infobox downward and overall looks awkward. Some of the parameters are also confusing and appear contradictory — i.e., Thesis goes under academic background but is thus excluded from Academic work, which sort of implies that a person's thesis is not a part of their academic work.
I think it would be great to have the infobox take on a similar formatting as Template:Infobox scientist, and it will provide the additional benefit of providing some consistency to readers. For example, Template:Infobox scientist actually puts Thesis under Scientific career, which is appropriate, and doesn't have any sort of divider at all; it would be less of an eyesore/confusion if Template:Infobox academic did the same.
I've attempted to replicate an example of what an article would look like without that large infobox divider in the GA John Hart Ely. GuardianH ( talk) 19:58, 23 June 2024 (UTC)