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Please, add VISUAL EFFECTS category to update information in this film template. Neuropixels ( talk) 13:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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production design to the Info box film template. So that production designers of films can be credited. thanks Maryturner88 ( talk) 05:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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{| class="wikitable"
!Directed by
|[[Roland Joffé]]
|-
!Written by
|[[Robert Bolt]]
|-
!Produced by
|
* [[Fernando Ghia]]
* [[David Puttnam]]
* [[Máximo Berrondo]]
|-
!Starring
|
* [[Robert De Niro]]
* [[Jeremy Irons]]
|-
!Cinematography
|[[Chris Menges]]
|-
!Edited by
|[[Jim Clark (film editor)|Jim Clark]]
|-
!Music by
|[[Ennio Morricone]]
|-
!Production
company
|[[Goldcrest Films]]
|-
!Distributed by
|[[Columbia Pictures|Columbia]]-[[The Cannon Group, Inc.|Cannon]]-[[Warner Bros. Pictures|Warner Distributors]]
|-
!Release dates
|
* 16 May 1986 ([[1986 Cannes Film Festival|Cannes]])
* 31 October 1986 (United States)
|-
!Running time
|125 minutes
|-
!Country
|United Kingdom
|-
!Languages
|
* English
* Latin
* [[Guaraní language|Guaraní]]
|-
!Budget
|[[Pound sterling|£]]16.5 million
|-
!Box office
|[[United States dollar|$]]17.2 million
|}
The core issue is that the community does not want the infobox to get longer with more credits, of which "production designer" is not the only one missing. The infobox takes up space, especially in mobile view. How do we justify one added credit but not another? I personally think we could use less credits in the infobox and have a crew-based list template in the "Production" section to list crew members in more detail. See Panic Room as an example. But whenever I mention that alternative, I don't really see a response in favor of that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 18:18, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
This would point to removing the info box entirely (maybe just an image of the film poster instead?is something no one here brought forward, wanted, or will ever gain any minimal of consensus. Also, as I've explained several times, no one is blocking you or the questionable various IPs editing here, from actually adding to the prose any verifiable piece of text you want, including production designer information. For some reason none of you did that yet. Please WP:DROPTHESTICK and get some experience actually editing articles. Gonnym ( talk) 15:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
I was thinking of adding an entry for "executive producer" in the template to refer to the producers directly involved for financially investing in the film. 2600:1700:B331:50F0:C9F3:119E:1837:833 ( talk) 18:56, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
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Description of suggested change: Add PRODUCTION DESIGNER as credit in the info box
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Fleurwhitlock ( talk) 16:12, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
The PRODUCTION DESIGNER is a key role in any film or TV drama project. It is their job to interpret the script and create the world in which the narrative takes place. They usually begin their work before the cinematographer is engaged and sometimes before the director is confirmed. This credit should be added alongside Director and Cinematographer.
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16:16, 6 June 2024 (UTC)I updated the notice template to say, "A common edit request is to add another crew parameter to the film infobox. Requested additions have included production designer, art director, set decorator, costume designer, choreographer, executive producer. The general consensus of the WikiProject Film community is to not expand the film infobox any further, but this does not preclude naming or listing them in the article body." I commented out the other situations because I feel like these never come up anymore, where additional crew parameters have been ongoing. Mentioning here in case anyone has any feedback. Pinging editors recently discussing this: Doniago, Adamstom.97, Favre1fan93. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 18:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles that use this infobox for film information appear in the aforementioned maintenance category, but also quite frequently appear in
Category:Upcoming films and
Category:Unfinished films at the same time. Is there a way to automate a film's article from not appearing in the missing date category if it's also part of upcoming and/or unfinished films? Removing the |released=
tag doesn't seem to remove it from the category, even after purging.
SmittenGalaxy (
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22:12, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
|released=upcoming
and if the film is unreleased then |released=unreleased
. This can then be coded into the template.
Gonnym (
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12:32, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
|released=upcoming
and |released=unreleased
work on removing movies from missing date category, but don't appear to update the upcoming or unreleased film categories. Not as big of a deal because the maintenance category seems to be just fine, but something I'll keep in mind as a potential issue later on. Thanks though!
SmittenGalaxy (
talk)
17:13, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
|release=upcoming
and |released=unreleased
to get the films off the maintenance category.
SmittenGalaxy (
talk)
18:57, 16 June 2024 (UTC)I've come back from the discussion started at {{
Film date}}. I don't believe there is current consensus within the film project to use anything other than a date in |released=
(so no text of "upcoming" or "unreleased"). In both those cases, the parameter should just be excluded, and a manual addition of the relevant category should be added. So my suggestion is the coding of adding
Category:Pages using infobox film with missing date to either of these instances gets reexamined. -
Favre1fan93 (
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15:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
|released=upcoming
and |released=unreleased
was just a way of cleaning it for films that had no actual release date, but this did not update the associated categories, which is where the initial question had come from.|released
on movies that are not released, yet have no set date online anywhere? Assuming that "unreleased" and "upcoming" shouldn't be used.
SmittenGalaxy (
talk)
02:14, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Currently the film Infobox doesn't identify a film's prequels or sequels even when they're explicit, and I don't think that's helpful. I think most Wikipedia users would agree it's helpful to have the prequels and sequels if they exist in the Infobox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chachilongbow ( talk • contribs) 05:41, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Please, add VISUAL EFFECTS category to update information in this film template. Neuropixels ( talk) 13:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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production design to the Info box film template. So that production designers of films can be credited. thanks Maryturner88 ( talk) 05:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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Nardog (
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10:57, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
{| class="wikitable"
!Directed by
|[[Roland Joffé]]
|-
!Written by
|[[Robert Bolt]]
|-
!Produced by
|
* [[Fernando Ghia]]
* [[David Puttnam]]
* [[Máximo Berrondo]]
|-
!Starring
|
* [[Robert De Niro]]
* [[Jeremy Irons]]
|-
!Cinematography
|[[Chris Menges]]
|-
!Edited by
|[[Jim Clark (film editor)|Jim Clark]]
|-
!Music by
|[[Ennio Morricone]]
|-
!Production
company
|[[Goldcrest Films]]
|-
!Distributed by
|[[Columbia Pictures|Columbia]]-[[The Cannon Group, Inc.|Cannon]]-[[Warner Bros. Pictures|Warner Distributors]]
|-
!Release dates
|
* 16 May 1986 ([[1986 Cannes Film Festival|Cannes]])
* 31 October 1986 (United States)
|-
!Running time
|125 minutes
|-
!Country
|United Kingdom
|-
!Languages
|
* English
* Latin
* [[Guaraní language|Guaraní]]
|-
!Budget
|[[Pound sterling|£]]16.5 million
|-
!Box office
|[[United States dollar|$]]17.2 million
|}
The core issue is that the community does not want the infobox to get longer with more credits, of which "production designer" is not the only one missing. The infobox takes up space, especially in mobile view. How do we justify one added credit but not another? I personally think we could use less credits in the infobox and have a crew-based list template in the "Production" section to list crew members in more detail. See Panic Room as an example. But whenever I mention that alternative, I don't really see a response in favor of that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 18:18, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
This would point to removing the info box entirely (maybe just an image of the film poster instead?is something no one here brought forward, wanted, or will ever gain any minimal of consensus. Also, as I've explained several times, no one is blocking you or the questionable various IPs editing here, from actually adding to the prose any verifiable piece of text you want, including production designer information. For some reason none of you did that yet. Please WP:DROPTHESTICK and get some experience actually editing articles. Gonnym ( talk) 15:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
I was thinking of adding an entry for "executive producer" in the template to refer to the producers directly involved for financially investing in the film. 2600:1700:B331:50F0:C9F3:119E:1837:833 ( talk) 18:56, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
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Description of suggested change: Add PRODUCTION DESIGNER as credit in the info box
Diff:
− | + | Production Designer |
Fleurwhitlock ( talk) 16:12, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
The PRODUCTION DESIGNER is a key role in any film or TV drama project. It is their job to interpret the script and create the world in which the narrative takes place. They usually begin their work before the cinematographer is engaged and sometimes before the director is confirmed. This credit should be added alongside Director and Cinematographer.
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template. -
FlightTime (
open channel)
16:16, 6 June 2024 (UTC)I updated the notice template to say, "A common edit request is to add another crew parameter to the film infobox. Requested additions have included production designer, art director, set decorator, costume designer, choreographer, executive producer. The general consensus of the WikiProject Film community is to not expand the film infobox any further, but this does not preclude naming or listing them in the article body." I commented out the other situations because I feel like these never come up anymore, where additional crew parameters have been ongoing. Mentioning here in case anyone has any feedback. Pinging editors recently discussing this: Doniago, Adamstom.97, Favre1fan93. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 18:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles that use this infobox for film information appear in the aforementioned maintenance category, but also quite frequently appear in
Category:Upcoming films and
Category:Unfinished films at the same time. Is there a way to automate a film's article from not appearing in the missing date category if it's also part of upcoming and/or unfinished films? Removing the |released=
tag doesn't seem to remove it from the category, even after purging.
SmittenGalaxy (
talk)
22:12, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
|released=upcoming
and if the film is unreleased then |released=unreleased
. This can then be coded into the template.
Gonnym (
talk)
12:32, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
|released=upcoming
and |released=unreleased
work on removing movies from missing date category, but don't appear to update the upcoming or unreleased film categories. Not as big of a deal because the maintenance category seems to be just fine, but something I'll keep in mind as a potential issue later on. Thanks though!
SmittenGalaxy (
talk)
17:13, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
|release=upcoming
and |released=unreleased
to get the films off the maintenance category.
SmittenGalaxy (
talk)
18:57, 16 June 2024 (UTC)I've come back from the discussion started at {{
Film date}}. I don't believe there is current consensus within the film project to use anything other than a date in |released=
(so no text of "upcoming" or "unreleased"). In both those cases, the parameter should just be excluded, and a manual addition of the relevant category should be added. So my suggestion is the coding of adding
Category:Pages using infobox film with missing date to either of these instances gets reexamined. -
Favre1fan93 (
talk)
15:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
|released=upcoming
and |released=unreleased
was just a way of cleaning it for films that had no actual release date, but this did not update the associated categories, which is where the initial question had come from.|released
on movies that are not released, yet have no set date online anywhere? Assuming that "unreleased" and "upcoming" shouldn't be used.
SmittenGalaxy (
talk)
02:14, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Currently the film Infobox doesn't identify a film's prequels or sequels even when they're explicit, and I don't think that's helpful. I think most Wikipedia users would agree it's helpful to have the prequels and sequels if they exist in the Infobox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chachilongbow ( talk • contribs) 05:41, 4 July 2024 (UTC)