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When there's two maps that can be flipped between, instead of an option that says "Show all" it should say "Show both". Akeosnhaoe ( talk) 10:02, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
When I set the value of child parameter of the sub-template to Yes, why doesn't it appear as intended, especially within Infobox settlement? The border still exists. Natsuikomin ( talk) 11:42, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
This code for this infobox when embedding an image contains |title={{if empty|{{{image_caption|}}}|{{{caption|}}}|{{{image_alt|}}}|{{{alt|}}}}}}}
. When the alt=
parameter is empty or missing, this results in the image's ALT text getting set to the text of the caption. (
example) This is an improper ALT text: The alt text is intended to be read out by screen readers just before the caption, so avoid having the same details in both.
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MOS:ALT) This behavior is also unhelpful for sighted readers in that it repeats the caption right below the image.
Opencooper (
talk) 16:19, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
|alt=
attributes in the code for any of the images, but there is a lot of code. Can you please create a minimal example showing the problem? –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 18:42, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
<img […] alt="Clockwise, top left[…]
.
Opencooper (
talk) 00:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)|title={{if empty|{{{image_alt|}}}|{{{alt|}}}}}}}
.
Opencooper (
talk) 05:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
[[File:Algiers Montage.png|275px|'''Clockwise, top left''': Coast of Algiers, [[Maqam Echahid|Maqam Echahid (Martyrs' Memorial)]], [[Notre-Dame d'Afrique|Basilique Notre Dame d'Afrique]], [[Ketchaoua Mosque]], [[Kasbah of Algiers]], [[Grande Poste d'Alger|Algiers Central Post Office]], [[Ministry of Finance (Algeria)|Ministry of Finance building]]]]
. I don't see an alt tag in there, which makes me think that changing this infobox will not change the rendered HTML. Something in the MediaWiki code may be generating the alt text in the rendered HTML. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 19:30, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
when thumb […] is not specified [and] no alt text is specifically requested, use the requested caption as alt text. So technically this is expected behavior of the image linking syntax. (though confusingly, is not seen on all Infobox templates) But this behavior is against the MoS and results in unhelpful duplication. However, I'm not sure where to get this changed and would probably need an RfC. Opencooper ( talk) 16:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
I think some items, like elevation_max_point and elevation_min_point, should be moved from the left to the right side. When there is too much text on any row on the left side (like these two parameters), the left column automatically becomes wider and the right column becomes narrower, which isn't great, because the right column generally has more text overall.
An example is Montgomery (village), New York, where you can see the wider left column and narrower right column. I prefer names, areas, and population density on a single line when possible.
I will also note that the "desktop" and mobile views look different. There is much more whitespace on the "desktop" version, and on the page I mentioned, the ratio between left and right column widths is better on the mobile version. Kk.urban ( talk) 20:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Is there a way to remove the pushpin map in Milwaukee while keeping the switchable map above it? Because that's switchable, it shows the same information to readers and greatly extends the infobox. Ed [talk] [OMT] 21:23, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
|pushpin_map=
parameter (and the two following parameters) in the infobox. You could get some pushback from other editors, though.
Deor (
talk) 21:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
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When there's two maps that can be flipped between, instead of an option that says "Show all" it should say "Show both". Akeosnhaoe ( talk) 10:02, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
When I set the value of child parameter of the sub-template to Yes, why doesn't it appear as intended, especially within Infobox settlement? The border still exists. Natsuikomin ( talk) 11:42, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
This code for this infobox when embedding an image contains |title={{if empty|{{{image_caption|}}}|{{{caption|}}}|{{{image_alt|}}}|{{{alt|}}}}}}}
. When the alt=
parameter is empty or missing, this results in the image's ALT text getting set to the text of the caption. (
example) This is an improper ALT text: The alt text is intended to be read out by screen readers just before the caption, so avoid having the same details in both.
(
MOS:ALT) This behavior is also unhelpful for sighted readers in that it repeats the caption right below the image.
Opencooper (
talk) 16:19, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
|alt=
attributes in the code for any of the images, but there is a lot of code. Can you please create a minimal example showing the problem? –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 18:42, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
<img […] alt="Clockwise, top left[…]
.
Opencooper (
talk) 00:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)|title={{if empty|{{{image_alt|}}}|{{{alt|}}}}}}}
.
Opencooper (
talk) 05:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
[[File:Algiers Montage.png|275px|'''Clockwise, top left''': Coast of Algiers, [[Maqam Echahid|Maqam Echahid (Martyrs' Memorial)]], [[Notre-Dame d'Afrique|Basilique Notre Dame d'Afrique]], [[Ketchaoua Mosque]], [[Kasbah of Algiers]], [[Grande Poste d'Alger|Algiers Central Post Office]], [[Ministry of Finance (Algeria)|Ministry of Finance building]]]]
. I don't see an alt tag in there, which makes me think that changing this infobox will not change the rendered HTML. Something in the MediaWiki code may be generating the alt text in the rendered HTML. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 19:30, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
when thumb […] is not specified [and] no alt text is specifically requested, use the requested caption as alt text. So technically this is expected behavior of the image linking syntax. (though confusingly, is not seen on all Infobox templates) But this behavior is against the MoS and results in unhelpful duplication. However, I'm not sure where to get this changed and would probably need an RfC. Opencooper ( talk) 16:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
I think some items, like elevation_max_point and elevation_min_point, should be moved from the left to the right side. When there is too much text on any row on the left side (like these two parameters), the left column automatically becomes wider and the right column becomes narrower, which isn't great, because the right column generally has more text overall.
An example is Montgomery (village), New York, where you can see the wider left column and narrower right column. I prefer names, areas, and population density on a single line when possible.
I will also note that the "desktop" and mobile views look different. There is much more whitespace on the "desktop" version, and on the page I mentioned, the ratio between left and right column widths is better on the mobile version. Kk.urban ( talk) 20:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Is there a way to remove the pushpin map in Milwaukee while keeping the switchable map above it? Because that's switchable, it shows the same information to readers and greatly extends the infobox. Ed [talk] [OMT] 21:23, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
|pushpin_map=
parameter (and the two following parameters) in the infobox. You could get some pushback from other editors, though.
Deor (
talk) 21:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)