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I think "New Feminism" should be included in the Feminist bar. It is significantly different in theory and proposals than other forms of Old Feminism and is considered by some as the "fourth-wave" of the Feminist Movement.
Fourth-wave feminism would be a lot more appropriate than 'new feminism'. If you want to start a page on 4th wave feminism and put it on the template, go for it. -- Helenalex 00:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I disagree. I think it might be too early to say or define "fourth-wave" feminism yet, and New feminism as a feminist movement has been going by that specific name.
It think it will continue to be consecutive "waves of feminism." The reason being is that we as a society continue to marginalize and sub group people. Third wave feminism shed light on groups that were and are still socially otherized. Therefore, as a result, "global feminisms" came about. However, as a result more subgroups and new otherized people are still being ignored. The more we as as a society grow to become politically correct; we grow further apart. Ulitmately, the gaps are not being bridged. Until then, we will still have consecutive waves of feminism.
Aharper12
04:01, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
This template has gotten quite large, so I've taken some steps to reduce its footprint. First, I removed the redundant "feminist" label from almost every subtype. Marxist feminism, New feminism, Postmodern feminism... they're all feminism, it doesn't need to be restated every time. This saved on horizontal space and allowed me to put the subtypes (as well as a other sections) in columns. Some other rearranging, and the template still has all the items it originally had, but takes up far less real estate on the pages it's used on. Neitherday 00:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree that the Lang picture is a better picture overall, but what's the connection to feminism? The original picture was of an international woman's day demonstration, which made sense. Kellen T 11:10, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
could we just go without the picture, please? It adds no value and just wastes screen space in the transcluding article. If there is a fitting image that can be transcluded, the choice should be left with the editors of the individual articles, on a case-by-case basis. -- dab (𒁳) 14:12, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
How is the picture of the women's rally an icon? Also, icons are allowed in infoboxes per WP:MOSICON. -- Aronoel ( talk) 21:14, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Surprising me, it turns out that scanning commercially into a PDF costs about the same as postally mailing the stamps, unless there's a surprise awaiting me when I try. So I'll try to do that over the next few days, and hopefully try uploading this weekend. I have both stamps, too. Nick Levinson ( talk) 01:39, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
No icon is needed , this is just decoration Gnevin ( talk) 19:13, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Erm, I may have unintentionally triggered a deletion discussion about the image used in this template. I know less than zero about image licensing, so if one of you is a Commons expert, can you please jump in? Thanks, and sorry for accidentally poking the hive with a stick... Accedie talk to me 19:04, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
This template did not have a logo before 2011, and I'm intrigued why the current one was chosen. It was originally uploaded in 2006, and it represents "a symbol used by radical feminists in the 1960s and 70s in Germany". Is it really the most suitable logo for this template, or is one needed anyway? Obviously the raised fist symbolizes resistance but I don't think it can be seen as somehow being the most relevant symbol of feminism. I don't think it adds much value. -- Pudeo ' 21:18, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Add to the list Women and Femininity the wordings "Female condition from conception to birth and immediately after", "Female infants", "Female children", "Women's senility", so:
Women · Girls · Female condition from conception to birth and immediately after · Female infants · Female children · Women's senility · Femininity
or elseway (the first section can include themes like, e.g., Female infanticide, Female genital mutilation, etc.). These ones could be also start-ups for articles or sections of articles or rewriting of these.
Else, we can add them, maybe with "Girls", in a new section "Women's ages".
Also the template must consider not just suffragettes and suffragists and suffrage, but also women in politics and, historically, as rulers or historical persons, in the sections "History", "Lists and Indexes" and also in a specific list of the template "Women in politics", with sublists about female rule, female rights of exercising politics and female politicians, female political questions and their addressing by politicians, female and male ones, and politics in general geographically and generally. Again, these ones can be also start-ups for further treatison or rewriting.
Add also in the list Concepts or elsewhere the entries Human female sexuality and Female education.
Mormegil 87.20.75.93 ( talk) 22:45, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Is the inclusion of feminazi under the concepts tab really appropriate? I'm going to go ahead and remove it. If anyone wants to re-add it, I would appreciate if they would say why here. Thanks.-- Witan ( talk) 01:16, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
It was readded by someone without explanation, so I will go ahead an remove again. Obviously it is not a concept in feminism. Jazzcowboy ( talk) 13:49, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Male privilege -- 76.175.67.121 ( talk) 18:35, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
I think "New Feminism" should be included in the Feminist bar. It is significantly different in theory and proposals than other forms of Old Feminism and is considered by some as the "fourth-wave" of the Feminist Movement.
Fourth-wave feminism would be a lot more appropriate than 'new feminism'. If you want to start a page on 4th wave feminism and put it on the template, go for it. -- Helenalex 00:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I disagree. I think it might be too early to say or define "fourth-wave" feminism yet, and New feminism as a feminist movement has been going by that specific name.
It think it will continue to be consecutive "waves of feminism." The reason being is that we as a society continue to marginalize and sub group people. Third wave feminism shed light on groups that were and are still socially otherized. Therefore, as a result, "global feminisms" came about. However, as a result more subgroups and new otherized people are still being ignored. The more we as as a society grow to become politically correct; we grow further apart. Ulitmately, the gaps are not being bridged. Until then, we will still have consecutive waves of feminism.
Aharper12
04:01, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
This template has gotten quite large, so I've taken some steps to reduce its footprint. First, I removed the redundant "feminist" label from almost every subtype. Marxist feminism, New feminism, Postmodern feminism... they're all feminism, it doesn't need to be restated every time. This saved on horizontal space and allowed me to put the subtypes (as well as a other sections) in columns. Some other rearranging, and the template still has all the items it originally had, but takes up far less real estate on the pages it's used on. Neitherday 00:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree that the Lang picture is a better picture overall, but what's the connection to feminism? The original picture was of an international woman's day demonstration, which made sense. Kellen T 11:10, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
could we just go without the picture, please? It adds no value and just wastes screen space in the transcluding article. If there is a fitting image that can be transcluded, the choice should be left with the editors of the individual articles, on a case-by-case basis. -- dab (𒁳) 14:12, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
How is the picture of the women's rally an icon? Also, icons are allowed in infoboxes per WP:MOSICON. -- Aronoel ( talk) 21:14, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Surprising me, it turns out that scanning commercially into a PDF costs about the same as postally mailing the stamps, unless there's a surprise awaiting me when I try. So I'll try to do that over the next few days, and hopefully try uploading this weekend. I have both stamps, too. Nick Levinson ( talk) 01:39, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
No icon is needed , this is just decoration Gnevin ( talk) 19:13, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Erm, I may have unintentionally triggered a deletion discussion about the image used in this template. I know less than zero about image licensing, so if one of you is a Commons expert, can you please jump in? Thanks, and sorry for accidentally poking the hive with a stick... Accedie talk to me 19:04, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
This template did not have a logo before 2011, and I'm intrigued why the current one was chosen. It was originally uploaded in 2006, and it represents "a symbol used by radical feminists in the 1960s and 70s in Germany". Is it really the most suitable logo for this template, or is one needed anyway? Obviously the raised fist symbolizes resistance but I don't think it can be seen as somehow being the most relevant symbol of feminism. I don't think it adds much value. -- Pudeo ' 21:18, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Add to the list Women and Femininity the wordings "Female condition from conception to birth and immediately after", "Female infants", "Female children", "Women's senility", so:
Women · Girls · Female condition from conception to birth and immediately after · Female infants · Female children · Women's senility · Femininity
or elseway (the first section can include themes like, e.g., Female infanticide, Female genital mutilation, etc.). These ones could be also start-ups for articles or sections of articles or rewriting of these.
Else, we can add them, maybe with "Girls", in a new section "Women's ages".
Also the template must consider not just suffragettes and suffragists and suffrage, but also women in politics and, historically, as rulers or historical persons, in the sections "History", "Lists and Indexes" and also in a specific list of the template "Women in politics", with sublists about female rule, female rights of exercising politics and female politicians, female political questions and their addressing by politicians, female and male ones, and politics in general geographically and generally. Again, these ones can be also start-ups for further treatison or rewriting.
Add also in the list Concepts or elsewhere the entries Human female sexuality and Female education.
Mormegil 87.20.75.93 ( talk) 22:45, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Is the inclusion of feminazi under the concepts tab really appropriate? I'm going to go ahead and remove it. If anyone wants to re-add it, I would appreciate if they would say why here. Thanks.-- Witan ( talk) 01:16, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
It was readded by someone without explanation, so I will go ahead an remove again. Obviously it is not a concept in feminism. Jazzcowboy ( talk) 13:49, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Male privilege -- 76.175.67.121 ( talk) 18:35, 19 November 2014 (UTC)