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The Mani speak a Mon-Khmer language; that is undisputed. However, the Mani are not descendants of the Mon-Khmer ethicity. Rather, they absorbed the language from later-arriving Mon-Khmer tribes. They are of Negrito descent and represent an earlier wave of immigration.
Chin Yodee is a Thai archaeologist who writes in his book (ref. 3, p. 17-18) that "the Negritos (Ngoh or Hoh) are of black complexion and of shorter build than the Australoids, only 145 cm in body height and with broad skull and curly hair. They live on the Malay peninsula and in Thailand in Trang, Phatthalung and Yala provinces. Carlton S. Coon has classified the Negritos as belonging to the Australoids ".
The Cultural Encyclopaedia of the Southern People, vol. 3 (ref. 15, p. 994) is a work of reference on prehistoric communities in the south of Thailand. It says that "in the Pleistocene period dating back to more than 8-10,000 years, a group of Australoid people, i.e. the Negritos settled in the plains near the coast and were later were pushed into the the hilly forest areas. [1]
The Thai Encyclopaedia, The Royal Academic Edition, vol. 7 writes that the Mani people "are of short build and black complexion", "with curly hair, savage looking, ferocious like agog" . The Encyclopaedia also adds that there are "people of Negrito race who are living in the central and southern parts of the Indian subcontinent, in Sri Lanka, on the Andaman islands, the Malay Peninsula, Borneo, the Philippines and on different islands of the South Sea. [1]
Despite differences of opinion, a majority of anthropologists have come to the conclusion that most of the minority groups with black complexion and curly hair living in the hilly areas and forests of the Malay Peninsula, should be classified as belonging to the Negrito race. The Malay peninsula has from time immemorial been a corridor for the passage for countless smaller and larger migrations and complex mixture of races has been the inevitable result. [1]
Kevin Borland, Esq. 19:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
It's not clear why "Yue" is used, in addition to "Cantonese," under "Chinese." Usually "Yue" is used as a synonym for "Cantonese," although using a different character it can refer to people from the Shanghai area. It would be great if this could be clarified. Badagnani 19:21, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I just looked it up. Yeah, Ethnologue is using "Yue" as a synonym for "Cantonese," so, following usual WP practice, we can use the common English term, which is "Cantonese." Badagnani 19:32, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
What about the issues that arise in the list where we're listing both names of individual ethnic groups and their parent ethnic group? Is that OK, or is there a better way to handle it? I know there's some of this giong on in the Tai category, and that's why we have such a long list there. Kevin Borland, Esq. 19:37, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
By the way, I created a separate article that goes into these ethnic groups from the peopling standpoint at Peopling of Thailand that we can use as a reference point with regard to clean-up of the template. The Tai aren't very nicely organized yet though. Kevin Borland, Esq. 19:46, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Are you going to fill in the new groups you've added to the template at Ethnic groups in Thailand? Badagnani 21:17, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
It's a process of constant improvement. The payoff is that eventually our resource is going to be better and more complete than any other single source. Badagnani 01:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I don't believe the "Isan" are an ethnic group in Thailand. Most inhabitants of the region are Lao people, who affiliate politically with the nation-state of Thailand. Badagnani 20:13, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
It's wishful thinking that Lao speakers are special and significantly different from their neighbors across the Mekong. There are a lot of examples of this, like the U.S. Pima and Mexican Pima. Nationalism can have a very pervasive effect. Badagnani 22:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Factors to consider:
Kevin Borland, Esq. 23:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
This is very good, systematically presented information. Badagnani 23:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
"Vietnamese" was just added, in this edit. What are the sources stating that Vietnamese are a minority ethnic group in Thailand? Badagnani ( talk) 01:37, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm restoring the previous layout. The recent changes made by 123.194.194.64 are problematic at best. The ordering was illogical and inconsistent. Just one example: it listed Khmer, Punjabi and Portuguese ethnic groups under "Thai".-- William Thweatt Talk Contribs 04:45, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
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The Mani speak a Mon-Khmer language; that is undisputed. However, the Mani are not descendants of the Mon-Khmer ethicity. Rather, they absorbed the language from later-arriving Mon-Khmer tribes. They are of Negrito descent and represent an earlier wave of immigration.
Chin Yodee is a Thai archaeologist who writes in his book (ref. 3, p. 17-18) that "the Negritos (Ngoh or Hoh) are of black complexion and of shorter build than the Australoids, only 145 cm in body height and with broad skull and curly hair. They live on the Malay peninsula and in Thailand in Trang, Phatthalung and Yala provinces. Carlton S. Coon has classified the Negritos as belonging to the Australoids ".
The Cultural Encyclopaedia of the Southern People, vol. 3 (ref. 15, p. 994) is a work of reference on prehistoric communities in the south of Thailand. It says that "in the Pleistocene period dating back to more than 8-10,000 years, a group of Australoid people, i.e. the Negritos settled in the plains near the coast and were later were pushed into the the hilly forest areas. [1]
The Thai Encyclopaedia, The Royal Academic Edition, vol. 7 writes that the Mani people "are of short build and black complexion", "with curly hair, savage looking, ferocious like agog" . The Encyclopaedia also adds that there are "people of Negrito race who are living in the central and southern parts of the Indian subcontinent, in Sri Lanka, on the Andaman islands, the Malay Peninsula, Borneo, the Philippines and on different islands of the South Sea. [1]
Despite differences of opinion, a majority of anthropologists have come to the conclusion that most of the minority groups with black complexion and curly hair living in the hilly areas and forests of the Malay Peninsula, should be classified as belonging to the Negrito race. The Malay peninsula has from time immemorial been a corridor for the passage for countless smaller and larger migrations and complex mixture of races has been the inevitable result. [1]
Kevin Borland, Esq. 19:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
It's not clear why "Yue" is used, in addition to "Cantonese," under "Chinese." Usually "Yue" is used as a synonym for "Cantonese," although using a different character it can refer to people from the Shanghai area. It would be great if this could be clarified. Badagnani 19:21, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I just looked it up. Yeah, Ethnologue is using "Yue" as a synonym for "Cantonese," so, following usual WP practice, we can use the common English term, which is "Cantonese." Badagnani 19:32, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
What about the issues that arise in the list where we're listing both names of individual ethnic groups and their parent ethnic group? Is that OK, or is there a better way to handle it? I know there's some of this giong on in the Tai category, and that's why we have such a long list there. Kevin Borland, Esq. 19:37, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
By the way, I created a separate article that goes into these ethnic groups from the peopling standpoint at Peopling of Thailand that we can use as a reference point with regard to clean-up of the template. The Tai aren't very nicely organized yet though. Kevin Borland, Esq. 19:46, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Are you going to fill in the new groups you've added to the template at Ethnic groups in Thailand? Badagnani 21:17, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
It's a process of constant improvement. The payoff is that eventually our resource is going to be better and more complete than any other single source. Badagnani 01:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I don't believe the "Isan" are an ethnic group in Thailand. Most inhabitants of the region are Lao people, who affiliate politically with the nation-state of Thailand. Badagnani 20:13, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
It's wishful thinking that Lao speakers are special and significantly different from their neighbors across the Mekong. There are a lot of examples of this, like the U.S. Pima and Mexican Pima. Nationalism can have a very pervasive effect. Badagnani 22:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Factors to consider:
Kevin Borland, Esq. 23:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
This is very good, systematically presented information. Badagnani 23:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
"Vietnamese" was just added, in this edit. What are the sources stating that Vietnamese are a minority ethnic group in Thailand? Badagnani ( talk) 01:37, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm restoring the previous layout. The recent changes made by 123.194.194.64 are problematic at best. The ordering was illogical and inconsistent. Just one example: it listed Khmer, Punjabi and Portuguese ethnic groups under "Thai".-- William Thweatt Talk Contribs 04:45, 19 September 2017 (UTC)