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My request is that - instead of 'Died' it should be 'Disappeared' in the main page that appears in Google or inside the page in Wikipedia in side bar (as devotees never died they appear and disappear from this material world when their role reaches climax). Thank you !! Satyam BCS ( talk) 17:57, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
I am using this template in a list, and would like it to sort in chronological order. A condensed sampling of the table is below. Clicking to sort the "Date and death of age" parameter orders them by the name of the month. Is there a way to make them order in actual chronological order? If not, is there a template that does this? BD2412 T 16:34, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
Judge | Date of birth | Confirmation date | Date of death and age |
---|---|---|---|
Francis Hopkinson | September 21, 1737 | September 26, 1789 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
Henry Marchant | April 9, 1741 | July 3, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
William Paca | October 31, 1740 | February 10, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
John Sitgreaves | 1757 | December 20, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
John Stokes | March 20, 1756 | August 3, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
John Sullivan | February 17, 1740 | September 26, 1789 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
James Wilson | September 14, 1742 | September 29, 1789 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
data-sort-value="yyyy-mm-dd"
where yyyy-mm-dd
is the death date:Judge | Date of birth | Confirmation date | Date of death and age |
---|---|---|---|
Francis Hopkinson | September 21, 1737 | September 26, 1789 | May 9, 1791 | (aged 53)
Henry Marchant | April 9, 1741 | July 3, 1790 | August 30, 1796 | (aged 55)
William Paca | October 31, 1740 | February 10, 1790 | October 13, 1799 | (aged 58)
John Sitgreaves | 1757 | December 20, 1790 | February 13, 1801 | (aged 43–44)
John Stokes | March 20, 1756 | August 3, 1790 | October 12, 1790 | (aged 34)
John Sullivan | February 17, 1740 | September 26, 1789 | January 23, 1795 | (aged 54)
James Wilson | September 14, 1742 | September 29, 1789 | August 21, 1798 | (aged 55)
sortable=on
and sortable=table
for most of the templates. I edited the sandbox module so these also work in {{
Death date and age/sandbox}}, and I edited the first table above to use the sandbox template with the new parameter (sortable=table
). It appears to be working now. The sort key is a weird number that is compatible with how the module works for other templates. It is based on the
Julian day for the death date. That date can be given in full (like May 9, 1791) or it might be "partial" such as 1791 or May 1791. By the way, the module supports entering dates in a single field. For example:
{{Death date and age|9 May 1791|21 Sep 1737}}
→ May 9, 1791 (aged 53){{Death date and age/sandbox|9 May 1791|21 Sep 1737|sortable=table}}
→ Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day{{Death date and age/sandbox|1791|05|09|1737|09|21|sortable=table}}
, including the /sandbox?
BD2412
T
04:47, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
{{Death date and age|1791|05|09|1737|09|21|sortable=table}}
→ data-sort-value="7006237533750000000"|May 9, 1791 (aged 53){{Death date and age|1791|5|9|1737|9|21|sortable=table}}
→ data-sort-value="7006237533750000000"|May 9, 1791 (aged 53){{Death date and age|May 9, 1791|Sep 21, 1737|sortable=table}}
→ data-sort-value="7006237533750000000"|May 9, 1791 (aged 53)I'd like to summarize the progress by repeating the table in the first post, with Johnuniq's improvement and avoiding the Birth date template for Julian dates. I mixed the Birth date template and the Dts template in the birth date column to see if it would work. It would be on the person writing the table to insure that there weren't any out-of-order dates on account of a Julian date that looks later than a Gregorian date but is actually earlier. It shouldn't be a problem so long as the dates are separated by 14 days or so. It appears to fail when only a birth year; there may be other problems I haven't spotted.
Judge | Date of birth | Confirmation date | Date of death and age |
---|---|---|---|
Francis Hopkinson | September 21, 1737 | September 26, 1789 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
Henry Marchant | April 9, 1741 | July 3, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
William Paca | October 31, 1740 | February 10, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
John Sitgreaves | Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "{"., 1757 | December 20, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
John Stokes | March 20, 1756 | August 3, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
John Sullivan | February 17, 1740 | September 26, 1789 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
James Wilson | September 14, 1742 | September 29, 1789 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
Jc3s5h ( talk) 11:45, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
sortable=table
. I believe {{Birth date}} needs the full date which is why there is that strange error in the table above. Further, {{
dts}} uses a different approach which handles geological time (billions of years), where Module:Age only works from 9999 BCE to 9999 CE. The sort key produced by dts is not compatible with that from Module:Age. I think we are going to have to live with the limitations of these designs for some time.Johnuniq ( talk) 02:25, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
What happens if this template is used for someone born on Feb 29 1904 and died on Feb 28 1969? Would that show aged 65, aged 64, or aged 64–65? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KaiHunter12 ( talk • contribs) 21:08, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
{{Death date and age|Feb 28 1969|Feb 28 1904}}
→ February 28, 1969 (aged 65){{Death date and age|Feb 28 1969|Feb 29 1904}}
→ February 28, 1969 (aged 64){{Death date and age|Mar 1 1969|Feb 29 1904}}
→ March 1, 1969 (aged 65)A significant fraction of death dates are unknown (prior to 1838 in England at least, when civil registers start) while a burial date may exist from a Parish Register. One cannot add an accurate burial date though one has it, whenever a date of death is called for at which one can clearly not just guess. Wikipedia templates relating to date of death should consider extending with date of burial. JohnHarris ( talk) 12:18, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Right now, it gives an error if the birth date comes before the death date. I would recommend to change this so that in this instance, we just resolve it, and take whichever date comes later as the death year. DarmaniLink ( talk) 14:30, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
Template:Death date and age is permanently
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My request is that - instead of 'Died' it should be 'Disappeared' in the main page that appears in Google or inside the page in Wikipedia in side bar (as devotees never died they appear and disappear from this material world when their role reaches climax). Thank you !! Satyam BCS ( talk) 17:57, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
I am using this template in a list, and would like it to sort in chronological order. A condensed sampling of the table is below. Clicking to sort the "Date and death of age" parameter orders them by the name of the month. Is there a way to make them order in actual chronological order? If not, is there a template that does this? BD2412 T 16:34, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
Judge | Date of birth | Confirmation date | Date of death and age |
---|---|---|---|
Francis Hopkinson | September 21, 1737 | September 26, 1789 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
Henry Marchant | April 9, 1741 | July 3, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
William Paca | October 31, 1740 | February 10, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
John Sitgreaves | 1757 | December 20, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
John Stokes | March 20, 1756 | August 3, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
John Sullivan | February 17, 1740 | September 26, 1789 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
James Wilson | September 14, 1742 | September 29, 1789 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
data-sort-value="yyyy-mm-dd"
where yyyy-mm-dd
is the death date:Judge | Date of birth | Confirmation date | Date of death and age |
---|---|---|---|
Francis Hopkinson | September 21, 1737 | September 26, 1789 | May 9, 1791 | (aged 53)
Henry Marchant | April 9, 1741 | July 3, 1790 | August 30, 1796 | (aged 55)
William Paca | October 31, 1740 | February 10, 1790 | October 13, 1799 | (aged 58)
John Sitgreaves | 1757 | December 20, 1790 | February 13, 1801 | (aged 43–44)
John Stokes | March 20, 1756 | August 3, 1790 | October 12, 1790 | (aged 34)
John Sullivan | February 17, 1740 | September 26, 1789 | January 23, 1795 | (aged 54)
James Wilson | September 14, 1742 | September 29, 1789 | August 21, 1798 | (aged 55)
sortable=on
and sortable=table
for most of the templates. I edited the sandbox module so these also work in {{
Death date and age/sandbox}}, and I edited the first table above to use the sandbox template with the new parameter (sortable=table
). It appears to be working now. The sort key is a weird number that is compatible with how the module works for other templates. It is based on the
Julian day for the death date. That date can be given in full (like May 9, 1791) or it might be "partial" such as 1791 or May 1791. By the way, the module supports entering dates in a single field. For example:
{{Death date and age|9 May 1791|21 Sep 1737}}
→ May 9, 1791 (aged 53){{Death date and age/sandbox|9 May 1791|21 Sep 1737|sortable=table}}
→ Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day{{Death date and age/sandbox|1791|05|09|1737|09|21|sortable=table}}
, including the /sandbox?
BD2412
T
04:47, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
{{Death date and age|1791|05|09|1737|09|21|sortable=table}}
→ data-sort-value="7006237533750000000"|May 9, 1791 (aged 53){{Death date and age|1791|5|9|1737|9|21|sortable=table}}
→ data-sort-value="7006237533750000000"|May 9, 1791 (aged 53){{Death date and age|May 9, 1791|Sep 21, 1737|sortable=table}}
→ data-sort-value="7006237533750000000"|May 9, 1791 (aged 53)I'd like to summarize the progress by repeating the table in the first post, with Johnuniq's improvement and avoiding the Birth date template for Julian dates. I mixed the Birth date template and the Dts template in the birth date column to see if it would work. It would be on the person writing the table to insure that there weren't any out-of-order dates on account of a Julian date that looks later than a Gregorian date but is actually earlier. It shouldn't be a problem so long as the dates are separated by 14 days or so. It appears to fail when only a birth year; there may be other problems I haven't spotted.
Judge | Date of birth | Confirmation date | Date of death and age |
---|---|---|---|
Francis Hopkinson | September 21, 1737 | September 26, 1789 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
Henry Marchant | April 9, 1741 | July 3, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
William Paca | October 31, 1740 | February 10, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
John Sitgreaves | Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "{"., 1757 | December 20, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
John Stokes | March 20, 1756 | August 3, 1790 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
John Sullivan | February 17, 1740 | September 26, 1789 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
James Wilson | September 14, 1742 | September 29, 1789 | Error: Need valid death date (first date): year, month, day |
Jc3s5h ( talk) 11:45, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
sortable=table
. I believe {{Birth date}} needs the full date which is why there is that strange error in the table above. Further, {{
dts}} uses a different approach which handles geological time (billions of years), where Module:Age only works from 9999 BCE to 9999 CE. The sort key produced by dts is not compatible with that from Module:Age. I think we are going to have to live with the limitations of these designs for some time.Johnuniq ( talk) 02:25, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
What happens if this template is used for someone born on Feb 29 1904 and died on Feb 28 1969? Would that show aged 65, aged 64, or aged 64–65? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KaiHunter12 ( talk • contribs) 21:08, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
{{Death date and age|Feb 28 1969|Feb 28 1904}}
→ February 28, 1969 (aged 65){{Death date and age|Feb 28 1969|Feb 29 1904}}
→ February 28, 1969 (aged 64){{Death date and age|Mar 1 1969|Feb 29 1904}}
→ March 1, 1969 (aged 65)A significant fraction of death dates are unknown (prior to 1838 in England at least, when civil registers start) while a burial date may exist from a Parish Register. One cannot add an accurate burial date though one has it, whenever a date of death is called for at which one can clearly not just guess. Wikipedia templates relating to date of death should consider extending with date of burial. JohnHarris ( talk) 12:18, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Right now, it gives an error if the birth date comes before the death date. I would recommend to change this so that in this instance, we just resolve it, and take whichever date comes later as the death year. DarmaniLink ( talk) 14:30, 9 February 2024 (UTC)