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Is there a shortcut to style="text-align: right; direction: ltr"
for putting RTL text in a blockquote? Also, short of using columns or a table, is there a way to get the blockquote to align to the left of the page but have the text itself align to the right?
As in: ,tema tis rolod muspi meroL .tile gnicsipida rutetcesnoc .subicuaf icro tidnalb ca susruc euqen a eugua sillom siuD .surup sutem cen sullesahP
Thanks for your help. Ibadibam ( talk) 17:15, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
This would be a huge change and it should be discussed in a more central location like WP:TfD or at least advertised there if it is going to be discussed here. It would also need to be advertised at Wikipedia talk:Manual_of_Style as it affects WP:Manual of Style#Block quotations. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 23:45, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
The quote template removes leading and trailing quotation marks, giving us the following formatting in the Greg Packer article, which is quoting a newspaper quoting Packer (who is a man specifically famous for being quoted in newspapers):
"The Jewish people are fans of Pope John Paul II", said Greg Packer of Huntington, N.J. "He does not limit his message to one faith; he reaches out to everybody."
Should {{ trim quotes}} be altered so that it only trims in situations where the only quotemarks in a quote are at the start and the end? Or is this quote of a quote so niche that it's maybe the only article where it goes wrong, and it's better fixed by changing that article to use unstrippable "s? -- Lord Belbury ( talk) 08:47, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
|notrim=y
that works around this. —
SMcCandlish
☏
¢ 😼 22:12, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
|notrim=y
.
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There is a need to prevent {{ trim quotes}} from removing italics and bold from quotes. The documented way of using <nowiki /> is a hack. I've sandboxed a version that adds a new parameter, notrim, which if set to 1 will insert <nowiki /> at the start of the quote automatically. This is less elegant on the output than skipping the call to "trim quotes", but it is far easier to maintain.
Note that earlier today, SMcCandlish added <nowiki /> to the actual template, but it was in a different place. It had the effect of adding <nowiki /> to all quotes. I think he was trying to accomplish the same thing as I am doing here.
The diff to the sandbox is here. The version of the template that I tested against is here. The diff is here.
The test case page I used is here. It has additional test cases for this parameter.
Once this is approved, I will update the documentation page.
See related discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Interrupting parsing at beginning of parameter so wikimarkup at very start of its content is not misparsed( permalink). davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 20:57, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
|notrim=1
syntax; any value like |notrim=y
or |notrim=true
will work. I've also asked for help at
Template talk:Trim quotes to upgrade that template's smarts and make this workaround unnecessary, except for the case of actual embedded quotes as reported in
#Trimming quotation marks above (this new parameter also works around that problem). —
SMcCandlish
☏
¢ 😼 22:27, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Please see Template:Quote/testcases#With indentation for an illustration of a problem encountered with the template when it is used in an indented section (with : markup on a DYK page, for example, as at Template:Did you know nominations/Serious Hazards of Transfusion).
I have fixed the problem in the sandbox, but my fixing of it has somehow broken line wrapping, as shown in Template:Quote/testcases#With line breaks. I tried a wide variety of things in the sandbox to fix the line break issue, and I read the mysterious "explanation" at Template:Quote#Line breaks, but I was unable to preserve the line breaks.
If the sandbox code is moved to the live template, it will fix one problem and introduce another. Does anyone know how to work around this line break issue, which does not occur in regular text? Something makes me think that a little CSS wizardry will help, but I don't know enough about CSS to fix it. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 17:49, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
{{quote|text=<small>Your service as a teacher has been most satisfactory, but it is in the field of music that your contribution to the country has been outstanding. Since 1952 you have been largely responsible for the Biennial Music Festivals in Georgetown. You are joint Honorary Secretary of the Music Festival Committee and the success of the Festivals is in a large measure due to your organization and supervision. You have also made a name for yourself in arranging musical programmes in the Schools Broadcasts which have taught many children the joy of music and of singing together. By Command of the Queen conveyed to me through Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies, I present to you the Insignia of a Member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire.|author=His Excellency the Governor, [[Patrick Muir Renison|Sir Patrick Renison]], [[Order of St Michael and St George|K.C.M.G.]] on May 8, 1959</small><ref>{{Cite web |url=http://parliament.gov.gy/documents/hansards/parliamentary_debates_8th_may_1959.pdf|title=Second Legislative Council, Constituted under the British Guiana, Friday, 8th May, 1959|date=May 8, 1959 |accessdate=February 28, 2020 }}</ref>}}
Would someone please include a link to the W3C specification of the "poem" tag? I can't find it. JKeck ( talk) 01:25, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
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/>
at the end of style.css inclusion. Due to the lack of this space in the moment the highlighting of wikisyntax with CodeMirror is impeded for everything following.|5=
). So, I would suggest to add it:{{#if:{{{sign|}}}{{{cite|}}}{{{author|}}}{{{by|}}}{{{personquoted|}}}{{{source|}}}{{{ts|}}}{{{title|}}}{{{publication|}}}{{{quotesource|}}}{{{char|}}}{{{character|}}}{{{2|}}}{{{3|}}}{{{4|}}}{{{5|}}}|{{#if:{{{multiline|}}}|<nowiki />}} […] {{#if:{{{char|{{{character|{{{5|}}}}}}}}}|{{{char|{{{character|{{{5|}}}}}}}}}, in }}{{Comma separated entries
(Edit: Note that here in output  
is not displayed.)
—
Speravir (
talk) – 22:25, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
|answered=yes
from {{
Edit template-protected}}
. Also, your signature messes with the timestamp in a way that screws up
WP:REPLYLINK (and probably other scripts and bots), please change it to use the system-generated format (HH:MM, D MM YYYY (UTC)
) without customizations (like <span> and </span>
) per
WP:SIGPROB. Best, --
Mdaniels5757 (
talk) 20:28, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Template:Zitat. The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 13#Template:Zitat until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. –
Deacon Vorbis (
carbon •
videos) 21:40, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
How come the beginning of this Template, before the documentation stats, has the full "Lorem ipsum" message showing? I looked around to see if I can find where it was placed, but can't see where it's coming from... I'd suggest deleting that, as that doesn't have any use for appearing at the beginning of a Template page. Hezkezl ( talk) 01:17, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Could someone explain how to make quotes spanning multiple paragraphs? I'm having difficulty getting the syntax to work. ImTheIP ( talk) 02:52, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Paragraph 1
Paragraph 2
Paragraph 3
Paragraph 1
Paragraph 2
Paragraph 3
Please see:
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Fixing the accidental return of decorative quotations
—
SMcCandlish
☏
¢ 😼 01:37, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
Not sure if anyone watches this talk page, but I'm confused why in the examples, "Ceci n’est pas une pipe" translates to "This is Not a Pipe" vs "This is not a pipe'. What's with the non-standard case? Is this on purpose? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 21:22, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Go to an article with a blockquote and try editing the surrounding text in Visual Editor. The surrounding text is suddenly uneditable, and has to be edited instead in the quote template in the "content" field.
For example, in the Visual Editor, go to Adaptation (film), go to the Production section, and select the text either side of the blockquote ("Kaufman said" or "Kaufman also said..").
What is the utility of this? Why can't it just be ordinary text? Popcornfud ( talk) 23:58, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
We all know the problems trying to find help with formatting on Wikipedia as the help pages are virtually useless, but usually I have been able to muddle through. However I give up with blockquotes. I know that <center> works, but how do I align text right? <right> and <align=right> don't work. Why is it so difficult to find this kind of basic information? Davidelit (Talk) 06:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. TR filed. ( non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader ( talk) 19:03, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Template:Quote →
Template:Blockquote – The current name is ambiguous and confusing, and appears to be the primary cause of misuse of this template for {{
Quote|Very short quotations.}}
See
MOS:BQ: Only long quotations that will (on most monitors anyway) take up multiple lines should be put in <blockquote>...</blockquote>
or a template wrapper for it like this one. Using
Template:Blockquote will also be mnemonic with <blockquote>
, and help prevent confusion with the <q>
HTML element (which is for inline, non-block quotations, and which WP generally doesn't use). The change will not break anything, as the proposed name already redirects to the current one, and the current one would continue to work in situ with no changes. WP has been moving for years to less ambiguous and less "shortcutty" actual template names while retaining the short versions as redirs (e.g.
Template:Citation needed and its {{
cn}}
shortcut). —
SMcCandlish
☏
¢ 😼 00:53, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
<blockquote>...</blockquote>
tag in this case. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 13:58, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
<blockquote>
, it would be more
WP:CONSISTENT for the template to be named after the element (cf. {{
em}}
, {{
strong}}
, {{
var}}
, {{
samp}}
, {{
kbd}}
, etc., etc.). The very fact that it was a redlink suggests that this extra-long name wouldn't be what people are thinking of; I mean, we've had over a decade and half to make that redir work, right? :-) —
SMcCandlish
☏
¢ 😼 02:19, 4 December 2020 (UTC)Somehow, the promised automagic appears to have failed. See Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Quote/styles.css, where dozens of pages are transcluding a template styles page that was moved without leaving behind a redirect. Pinging SMcCandlish and JJMC89. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 18:44, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
<
templatestyles>
, probably from template substitution. I'll restore a redir to the styles.css page. —
SMcCandlish
☏
¢ 😼 18:52, 1 January 2021 (UTC)Hello, I would propose a Parameter for the Date of the Quote. W like wiki good to know 15:41, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
source
parameter is insufficient for this purpose?
Ibadibam (
talk) 17:49, 30 August 2021 (UTC)![]() | This
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Title of the unknown parameters tracking category needs to be changed since it has been moved to Category:Pages using quote box with unknown parameters. Thank you. Jeeputer ( talk) 21:26, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
HTML spec has changed. The attribution must be outside the blockquote element. Working on potential solution in /sandbox. Matt Fitzpatrick ( talk) 01:51, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
<small>{{blockquote}}</small>
type abuse out there. Linter will have new complaints about the sandbox expansion <small><div class="templatequote">...</div></small>
, but only because Linter fails to complain as it should about the current expansion <small><blockquote class="templatequote">...</blockquote></small>
. Both div and blockquote are flow, so neither is actually more of an error than the other. @
Jonesey95: Will the increase in Linter count be acceptable? I'll be happy to help squash the errors that turn up. CC
WT:LINT.
Matt Fitzpatrick (
talk) 04:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
<small>{{blockquote
--
WOSlinker (
talk) 11:09, 24 January 2022 (UTC)Does anyone know what causes an article to categorised as using the template incorrectly, besides what the cat page itself says? Specific issue described at Category talk:Pages incorrectly using the Blockquote template. -- Scyrme ( talk) 20:34, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
|class=
in {{
rquote}}, a wrapper for {{
blockquote}}, in the section "Symbolic approaches to ritual" is causing this categorization. I don't know if the use of |class=
is still worth tracking. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 20:54, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
|class=
does, but messing with {{
rquote}} (in the article preview, not directly) it seems the article gets categorised as "incorrect" even if you follow the advice on the template documentation, whether the parameters are explicitly named or not, even if the input for all four recommended parameters are plain text with no '=' signs; the mere existence of the template on the page seems to be tagged as "incorrect", and only commenting it out or deleting it from article removes the category. Either I'm being very clumsy or this is a mistake with {{
rquote}} itself or something else. Fixing it is beyond me. --
Scyrme (
talk) 21:36, 17 March 2022 (UTC)|class=
, so all articles using it will end up in the category. Someone needs to decide whether usage of |class=
still needs to be tracked in this way. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 22:57, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
|class=
from the code that performs this category assignment. If anyone knows why it was there, they are welcome to post here. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 21:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
|class=
to
Template:Blockquote is
Special:Diff/646356023, quote: template:bq has now been redirected/merged here per tfd, adding parameters which were not merged here in the tracking(emphasis mine). As per edit summary, at the time in 2015, template {{Blockquote}} did not support parameter
|class=
! It wasn't added during said merge intentionally.Note that Category:Template bq using class param and Category:Template bq using id param are empty, and Category:Template bq using title param has but one entry, suggesting that the additional features are neither used nor needed, with parameter
|class=
being one of those unused and unneeded features. However, in the same TfD some people voiced support for |class=
: [template resolving to <blockquote>] should have an option to add predefined classes.
|class=
was added to {{Blockquote}}, but without removing the tracking in question. Edit summary refers (but unfortunately doesn't link) to
this discussion, where
User:Great Brightstar explains the rationale for |class=
: On your phone [template {{Rquote}}] may looks extremely narrow. To improve the visual appearance on mobile view, I created TemplateStyles to this template. But in order to make this template works as expected, you need to add |class=
parameter into Template:Blockquote
.|class=
has been added to template {{Bq}} in 2012 (
corresponding doc update) and the tracking of it
was added in 2014. —
andrybak (
talk) 23:42, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
|class=
is used in 11 articles. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 02:02, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
It's confusing that this template page starts out with lorem ipsum text. Can we add an introduction explaining what the template is, before we give an example of how blockquote looks on the page? Birdsinthewindow ( talk) 21:06, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
References contained within the blockquote template (before the terminating curly braces) will not link to the correct citation in the article, and break the citation numbering for the article. It appears that the relevant citation is skipped and not included in the reference list. This method of referencing should be depreciated from this template. Please see this historic version of the circumcision and law article and take note of each blockquote. Geordannik ( talk) 01:18, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
<ref>...</ref>
{{
blockquote|Quoted material here.}}
" —
SMcCandlish
☏
¢ 😼 03:44, 4 July 2023 (UTC)FYI, I've started a discussion on the Manual of Style for whether this template (and others) should put a hair space or a thin space after the attribution dash. (Apologies if I'm just totally misunderstanding something.) — Will • B [talk] 20:57, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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Change the thin space ( ) to a hair space ( ), per WP:Manual of Style § Other uses (em dash only), which recommends attribution em dashes be followed by a hair space in block quotations. {{ Cquote}} and {{ Quote frame}} both use the hair space; this template is the only one I could find that uses a thin space. — Will • B [talk] 01:37, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
|source=
parameter, I think. Could you fix that too? —
Will • B
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Is there a shortcut to style="text-align: right; direction: ltr"
for putting RTL text in a blockquote? Also, short of using columns or a table, is there a way to get the blockquote to align to the left of the page but have the text itself align to the right?
As in: ,tema tis rolod muspi meroL .tile gnicsipida rutetcesnoc .subicuaf icro tidnalb ca susruc euqen a eugua sillom siuD .surup sutem cen sullesahP
Thanks for your help. Ibadibam ( talk) 17:15, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
This would be a huge change and it should be discussed in a more central location like WP:TfD or at least advertised there if it is going to be discussed here. It would also need to be advertised at Wikipedia talk:Manual_of_Style as it affects WP:Manual of Style#Block quotations. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 23:45, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
The quote template removes leading and trailing quotation marks, giving us the following formatting in the Greg Packer article, which is quoting a newspaper quoting Packer (who is a man specifically famous for being quoted in newspapers):
"The Jewish people are fans of Pope John Paul II", said Greg Packer of Huntington, N.J. "He does not limit his message to one faith; he reaches out to everybody."
Should {{ trim quotes}} be altered so that it only trims in situations where the only quotemarks in a quote are at the start and the end? Or is this quote of a quote so niche that it's maybe the only article where it goes wrong, and it's better fixed by changing that article to use unstrippable "s? -- Lord Belbury ( talk) 08:47, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
|notrim=y
that works around this. —
SMcCandlish
☏
¢ 😼 22:12, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
|notrim=y
.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 03:15, 31 January 2020 (UTC)![]() | This
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There is a need to prevent {{ trim quotes}} from removing italics and bold from quotes. The documented way of using <nowiki /> is a hack. I've sandboxed a version that adds a new parameter, notrim, which if set to 1 will insert <nowiki /> at the start of the quote automatically. This is less elegant on the output than skipping the call to "trim quotes", but it is far easier to maintain.
Note that earlier today, SMcCandlish added <nowiki /> to the actual template, but it was in a different place. It had the effect of adding <nowiki /> to all quotes. I think he was trying to accomplish the same thing as I am doing here.
The diff to the sandbox is here. The version of the template that I tested against is here. The diff is here.
The test case page I used is here. It has additional test cases for this parameter.
Once this is approved, I will update the documentation page.
See related discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Interrupting parsing at beginning of parameter so wikimarkup at very start of its content is not misparsed( permalink). davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 20:57, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
|notrim=1
syntax; any value like |notrim=y
or |notrim=true
will work. I've also asked for help at
Template talk:Trim quotes to upgrade that template's smarts and make this workaround unnecessary, except for the case of actual embedded quotes as reported in
#Trimming quotation marks above (this new parameter also works around that problem). —
SMcCandlish
☏
¢ 😼 22:27, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Please see Template:Quote/testcases#With indentation for an illustration of a problem encountered with the template when it is used in an indented section (with : markup on a DYK page, for example, as at Template:Did you know nominations/Serious Hazards of Transfusion).
I have fixed the problem in the sandbox, but my fixing of it has somehow broken line wrapping, as shown in Template:Quote/testcases#With line breaks. I tried a wide variety of things in the sandbox to fix the line break issue, and I read the mysterious "explanation" at Template:Quote#Line breaks, but I was unable to preserve the line breaks.
If the sandbox code is moved to the live template, it will fix one problem and introduce another. Does anyone know how to work around this line break issue, which does not occur in regular text? Something makes me think that a little CSS wizardry will help, but I don't know enough about CSS to fix it. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 17:49, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
{{quote|text=<small>Your service as a teacher has been most satisfactory, but it is in the field of music that your contribution to the country has been outstanding. Since 1952 you have been largely responsible for the Biennial Music Festivals in Georgetown. You are joint Honorary Secretary of the Music Festival Committee and the success of the Festivals is in a large measure due to your organization and supervision. You have also made a name for yourself in arranging musical programmes in the Schools Broadcasts which have taught many children the joy of music and of singing together. By Command of the Queen conveyed to me through Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies, I present to you the Insignia of a Member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire.|author=His Excellency the Governor, [[Patrick Muir Renison|Sir Patrick Renison]], [[Order of St Michael and St George|K.C.M.G.]] on May 8, 1959</small><ref>{{Cite web |url=http://parliament.gov.gy/documents/hansards/parliamentary_debates_8th_may_1959.pdf|title=Second Legislative Council, Constituted under the British Guiana, Friday, 8th May, 1959|date=May 8, 1959 |accessdate=February 28, 2020 }}</ref>}}
Would someone please include a link to the W3C specification of the "poem" tag? I can't find it. JKeck ( talk) 01:25, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
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/>
at the end of style.css inclusion. Due to the lack of this space in the moment the highlighting of wikisyntax with CodeMirror is impeded for everything following.|5=
). So, I would suggest to add it:{{#if:{{{sign|}}}{{{cite|}}}{{{author|}}}{{{by|}}}{{{personquoted|}}}{{{source|}}}{{{ts|}}}{{{title|}}}{{{publication|}}}{{{quotesource|}}}{{{char|}}}{{{character|}}}{{{2|}}}{{{3|}}}{{{4|}}}{{{5|}}}|{{#if:{{{multiline|}}}|<nowiki />}} […] {{#if:{{{char|{{{character|{{{5|}}}}}}}}}|{{{char|{{{character|{{{5|}}}}}}}}}, in }}{{Comma separated entries
(Edit: Note that here in output  
is not displayed.)
—
Speravir (
talk) – 22:25, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
|answered=yes
from {{
Edit template-protected}}
. Also, your signature messes with the timestamp in a way that screws up
WP:REPLYLINK (and probably other scripts and bots), please change it to use the system-generated format (HH:MM, D MM YYYY (UTC)
) without customizations (like <span> and </span>
) per
WP:SIGPROB. Best, --
Mdaniels5757 (
talk) 20:28, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Template:Zitat. The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 13#Template:Zitat until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. –
Deacon Vorbis (
carbon •
videos) 21:40, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
How come the beginning of this Template, before the documentation stats, has the full "Lorem ipsum" message showing? I looked around to see if I can find where it was placed, but can't see where it's coming from... I'd suggest deleting that, as that doesn't have any use for appearing at the beginning of a Template page. Hezkezl ( talk) 01:17, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Could someone explain how to make quotes spanning multiple paragraphs? I'm having difficulty getting the syntax to work. ImTheIP ( talk) 02:52, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Paragraph 1
Paragraph 2
Paragraph 3
Paragraph 1
Paragraph 2
Paragraph 3
Please see:
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Fixing the accidental return of decorative quotations
—
SMcCandlish
☏
¢ 😼 01:37, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
Not sure if anyone watches this talk page, but I'm confused why in the examples, "Ceci n’est pas une pipe" translates to "This is Not a Pipe" vs "This is not a pipe'. What's with the non-standard case? Is this on purpose? Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 21:22, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Go to an article with a blockquote and try editing the surrounding text in Visual Editor. The surrounding text is suddenly uneditable, and has to be edited instead in the quote template in the "content" field.
For example, in the Visual Editor, go to Adaptation (film), go to the Production section, and select the text either side of the blockquote ("Kaufman said" or "Kaufman also said..").
What is the utility of this? Why can't it just be ordinary text? Popcornfud ( talk) 23:58, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
We all know the problems trying to find help with formatting on Wikipedia as the help pages are virtually useless, but usually I have been able to muddle through. However I give up with blockquotes. I know that <center> works, but how do I align text right? <right> and <align=right> don't work. Why is it so difficult to find this kind of basic information? Davidelit (Talk) 06:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. TR filed. ( non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader ( talk) 19:03, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Template:Quote →
Template:Blockquote – The current name is ambiguous and confusing, and appears to be the primary cause of misuse of this template for {{
Quote|Very short quotations.}}
See
MOS:BQ: Only long quotations that will (on most monitors anyway) take up multiple lines should be put in <blockquote>...</blockquote>
or a template wrapper for it like this one. Using
Template:Blockquote will also be mnemonic with <blockquote>
, and help prevent confusion with the <q>
HTML element (which is for inline, non-block quotations, and which WP generally doesn't use). The change will not break anything, as the proposed name already redirects to the current one, and the current one would continue to work in situ with no changes. WP has been moving for years to less ambiguous and less "shortcutty" actual template names while retaining the short versions as redirs (e.g.
Template:Citation needed and its {{
cn}}
shortcut). —
SMcCandlish
☏
¢ 😼 00:53, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
<blockquote>...</blockquote>
tag in this case. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 13:58, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
<blockquote>
, it would be more
WP:CONSISTENT for the template to be named after the element (cf. {{
em}}
, {{
strong}}
, {{
var}}
, {{
samp}}
, {{
kbd}}
, etc., etc.). The very fact that it was a redlink suggests that this extra-long name wouldn't be what people are thinking of; I mean, we've had over a decade and half to make that redir work, right? :-) —
SMcCandlish
☏
¢ 😼 02:19, 4 December 2020 (UTC)Somehow, the promised automagic appears to have failed. See Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Quote/styles.css, where dozens of pages are transcluding a template styles page that was moved without leaving behind a redirect. Pinging SMcCandlish and JJMC89. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 18:44, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
<
templatestyles>
, probably from template substitution. I'll restore a redir to the styles.css page. —
SMcCandlish
☏
¢ 😼 18:52, 1 January 2021 (UTC)Hello, I would propose a Parameter for the Date of the Quote. W like wiki good to know 15:41, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
source
parameter is insufficient for this purpose?
Ibadibam (
talk) 17:49, 30 August 2021 (UTC)![]() | This
edit request to
Template:Blockquote has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Title of the unknown parameters tracking category needs to be changed since it has been moved to Category:Pages using quote box with unknown parameters. Thank you. Jeeputer ( talk) 21:26, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
HTML spec has changed. The attribution must be outside the blockquote element. Working on potential solution in /sandbox. Matt Fitzpatrick ( talk) 01:51, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
<small>{{blockquote}}</small>
type abuse out there. Linter will have new complaints about the sandbox expansion <small><div class="templatequote">...</div></small>
, but only because Linter fails to complain as it should about the current expansion <small><blockquote class="templatequote">...</blockquote></small>
. Both div and blockquote are flow, so neither is actually more of an error than the other. @
Jonesey95: Will the increase in Linter count be acceptable? I'll be happy to help squash the errors that turn up. CC
WT:LINT.
Matt Fitzpatrick (
talk) 04:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
<small>{{blockquote
--
WOSlinker (
talk) 11:09, 24 January 2022 (UTC)Does anyone know what causes an article to categorised as using the template incorrectly, besides what the cat page itself says? Specific issue described at Category talk:Pages incorrectly using the Blockquote template. -- Scyrme ( talk) 20:34, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
|class=
in {{
rquote}}, a wrapper for {{
blockquote}}, in the section "Symbolic approaches to ritual" is causing this categorization. I don't know if the use of |class=
is still worth tracking. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 20:54, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
|class=
does, but messing with {{
rquote}} (in the article preview, not directly) it seems the article gets categorised as "incorrect" even if you follow the advice on the template documentation, whether the parameters are explicitly named or not, even if the input for all four recommended parameters are plain text with no '=' signs; the mere existence of the template on the page seems to be tagged as "incorrect", and only commenting it out or deleting it from article removes the category. Either I'm being very clumsy or this is a mistake with {{
rquote}} itself or something else. Fixing it is beyond me. --
Scyrme (
talk) 21:36, 17 March 2022 (UTC)|class=
, so all articles using it will end up in the category. Someone needs to decide whether usage of |class=
still needs to be tracked in this way. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 22:57, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
|class=
from the code that performs this category assignment. If anyone knows why it was there, they are welcome to post here. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 21:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
|class=
to
Template:Blockquote is
Special:Diff/646356023, quote: template:bq has now been redirected/merged here per tfd, adding parameters which were not merged here in the tracking(emphasis mine). As per edit summary, at the time in 2015, template {{Blockquote}} did not support parameter
|class=
! It wasn't added during said merge intentionally.Note that Category:Template bq using class param and Category:Template bq using id param are empty, and Category:Template bq using title param has but one entry, suggesting that the additional features are neither used nor needed, with parameter
|class=
being one of those unused and unneeded features. However, in the same TfD some people voiced support for |class=
: [template resolving to <blockquote>] should have an option to add predefined classes.
|class=
was added to {{Blockquote}}, but without removing the tracking in question. Edit summary refers (but unfortunately doesn't link) to
this discussion, where
User:Great Brightstar explains the rationale for |class=
: On your phone [template {{Rquote}}] may looks extremely narrow. To improve the visual appearance on mobile view, I created TemplateStyles to this template. But in order to make this template works as expected, you need to add |class=
parameter into Template:Blockquote
.|class=
has been added to template {{Bq}} in 2012 (
corresponding doc update) and the tracking of it
was added in 2014. —
andrybak (
talk) 23:42, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
|class=
is used in 11 articles. –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 02:02, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
It's confusing that this template page starts out with lorem ipsum text. Can we add an introduction explaining what the template is, before we give an example of how blockquote looks on the page? Birdsinthewindow ( talk) 21:06, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
References contained within the blockquote template (before the terminating curly braces) will not link to the correct citation in the article, and break the citation numbering for the article. It appears that the relevant citation is skipped and not included in the reference list. This method of referencing should be depreciated from this template. Please see this historic version of the circumcision and law article and take note of each blockquote. Geordannik ( talk) 01:18, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
<ref>...</ref>
{{
blockquote|Quoted material here.}}
" —
SMcCandlish
☏
¢ 😼 03:44, 4 July 2023 (UTC)FYI, I've started a discussion on the Manual of Style for whether this template (and others) should put a hair space or a thin space after the attribution dash. (Apologies if I'm just totally misunderstanding something.) — Will • B [talk] 20:57, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request to
Template:Blockquote has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Change the thin space ( ) to a hair space ( ), per WP:Manual of Style § Other uses (em dash only), which recommends attribution em dashes be followed by a hair space in block quotations. {{ Cquote}} and {{ Quote frame}} both use the hair space; this template is the only one I could find that uses a thin space. — Will • B [talk] 01:37, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
|source=
parameter, I think. Could you fix that too? —
Will • B
[talk] 03:56, 4 July 2023 (UTC)