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See http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Xeno&oldid=281075013 – xeno ( talk) 13:46, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
I think something might still be up. On Talk:Nintendo DS Lite for example, the Search results for merge is "merge prefix:Talk:Nintendo DS Lite/" however, removing the slash at the end gives better results. « ₣M₣ » 21:16, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Didn't there used to be a units parameter for this template? I was using a units= parameter on my own talk page, but just noticed that it was no longer working, and isn't listed on the docs. If it was removed, would someone mind explaining why?
—
V = I * R (
talk to Ohms law)
22:46, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}}
At WT:FAC we need to use {{{root}}} without the trailing slash that it add to the search field. I suggest that we add a new parameter named prefix. — Dispenser 23:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
/core
s implemented differently. Anyway, I've changed the notice on the documentation page to use {{
tdeprecated}} (that template needs to be more flexible). 04:55, 28 February 2010 (UTC)(
Re)
Yes, I know what it means - thank you. I see no reason (nor consensus) to strongly disapprove of, or consider obsolete, {{
archive box}}. It's simpler than {{
archives}} in that it doesn't require the named |list=
parameter in order to create archives with an inline list. –
xeno
talk
19:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
These templates developed in parallel and were later merged by means of subclassing one to the other. {{
archives}} is "more flexible" in that it simply has more features, and should be used for new instances because it has more sensible defaults (auto=yes
is on by default, for instance). They were merged in order to present a consistent, attractive and universal solution to page archive notices and to stop the massive duplication of effort involved in maintaining multiple forks of basically the same thing. There is nothing stopping people from using {{
archive box}} for now if they want, but seeing as it's just a hard-coded instance of the other template there is no reason not to just use the base template directly (and as such it's just legacy code, the
deprecation of which is appropriate to eventually get everyone using the same code). As for why the merge went to {{
archives}} and not the other way around, it could probably have gone either way at the time but that's now irrelevant. I seem to recall you actually being present during the discussion in question, so it's a little puzzling that you've chosen to edit war over it
over a year after that recommendation was made (or indeed edit war over something so lame in the first place).
Chris Cunningham (not at work) -
talk
14:51, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
|auto=no
to it.
Chris Cunningham (not at work) -
talk
23:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
This is what happens when using archives with the first unnamed parameter |
{{{1}}}
through!
Chris Cunningham (not at work) -
talk
14:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)|auto=no
, and then use an unnamed parameter as normal. The default behaviour makes for minimal syntax when both numbered auto-archives and additional pages are needed. Regardless, that the other template doesn't have a particular set of defaults certainly does not mean that this wrapper needs to be promoted in parallel to it; the defaults are sensible for most uses and can be overridden for people who insist on their own special archives layout.
Chris Cunningham (not at work) -
talk
23:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)Is it time to do migration and merging with {{ archives}} and make this into a re-direct? -- Kslotte ( talk) 16:32, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
{{archive box|auto=long|editbox=yes}} {{archives}} {{archive box|auto=long}} {{archives}} {{archive box}} {{archives|auto=no|editbox=no}} {{archive box|editbox=yes}} {{archives|auto=no}}
-- Kslotte ( talk) 16:35, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
-- Kslotte ( talk) 16:42, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
A breakdown of the current template usage:
Based on this it would be simpler doing a migration {{ Archives}} --> {{ Archive box}}. Opinions? -- Kslotte ( talk) 23:13, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
After some thoughts I see the best compromise is to have archive template with default values "editbox=no" and "auto=long". -- Kslotte ( talk) 13:57, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
RE: who was confused by two boxes, I'll admit that I was until I found this page. "Legacy wrapper" suggests to me that using this template calls the other template, but it appears that is not the case (?). Anyway, it's worth cleaning up in my opinion. II | ( t - c)
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Please update the title parameter to
And also reinstate the recent change to {{ Archives}} to restore the new default, according to Template talk:Archives#Edit request: Link title to index.
If there is a nice way to inherit the default value then that would be even better, but the best I can find is “to preserve the possible undefinedness” under meta:Help:Template#A parameter value depending on parameters which is so complicated it isn’t any better than doing it manually.
Vadmium ( talk, contribs) 05:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
I’ll try. Before my proposed change to {{ Archives}}, its title parameter is used like this:
In {{Archive box}} diff 294233019, the title parameter is passed through {{ Archive box}} to {{ Archives}}, and the same help link is introduced if this parameter is not specified. Now I am trying to have the {{ Archives}} title parameter used as follows, depending on whether the index parameter is specified:
I think {{ Archive box}} should use the plain text “Archives” if no title is specified, without specifying a link, since my changes to {{ Archives}} include the help link independently. Hope this explains things :)
If we were to simply unlink the help page in {{ Archives}} by default, this change to {{ Archive box}} would be less important because it wouldn’t be duplicated or broken by the index link. But I guess I would still prefer it be unlinked in {{ Archive box}} too. Vadmium ( talk, contribs) 11:30, 31 May 2012 (UTC).
{{archive box/sandbox|index=Foo}}
|
|
{{ Archive box/sandbox}} |
{{ Archives/sandbox}} |
It makes things more inconsistent; compare the two templates on the right. Why not just pass title={{{title|Archives}}} to keep it consistent with {{ Archives}}? Vadmium ( talk, contribs) 01:39, 1 June 2012 (UTC).
For clarity, I made User:Vadmium/Template:Archive box which has the precise change I was suggesting here. It still works with your latest changes to {{ Archives/sandbox}}. Vadmium ( talk, contribs) 02:00, 1 June 2012 (UTC).
This was introduced in 2008 but now seems to be redundant and therefore appears to require removal. It's still referred to in the /doc. -- Trevj ( talk) 08:30, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
How do I do mulitple titles, for example like this (ignoring beginning template call):
|title=2013 Archives| * [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] * [[/Archive 2|Archive 2]] |2014 Archives| * [[Another archive]] * etc.
I tried something like that, but I couldn't get it to work properly. Numbermaniac - T - C 08:47, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
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Please see 3rd box on Wikipedia:Archiving#Archive_box. Its image layout seems to be broken, however I was unable to fix it, can some admin help me with this and fix this ugly layout bug? Thanks in advance! -- Rezonansowy ( talk • contribs) 14:08, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I tried to put my talk page into an ArchiveBox. But the outcome is not what I intended. Esp. the Template {{Start multicol}} und the Template {{Multicol break}} do not seem to do what the documentation says. What did I do wrong?? -- hdamm ( talk) 08:43, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
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Please consider the edit I just made to the sandbox version of the template for the live template. My similar change (functionally, not technically) worked well on meta. ( [1]). Change default to include search of archive feature. Elvey( t• c) 18:47, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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See http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Xeno&oldid=281075013 – xeno ( talk) 13:46, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
I think something might still be up. On Talk:Nintendo DS Lite for example, the Search results for merge is "merge prefix:Talk:Nintendo DS Lite/" however, removing the slash at the end gives better results. « ₣M₣ » 21:16, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Didn't there used to be a units parameter for this template? I was using a units= parameter on my own talk page, but just noticed that it was no longer working, and isn't listed on the docs. If it was removed, would someone mind explaining why?
—
V = I * R (
talk to Ohms law)
22:46, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}}
At WT:FAC we need to use {{{root}}} without the trailing slash that it add to the search field. I suggest that we add a new parameter named prefix. — Dispenser 23:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
/core
s implemented differently. Anyway, I've changed the notice on the documentation page to use {{
tdeprecated}} (that template needs to be more flexible). 04:55, 28 February 2010 (UTC)(
Re)
Yes, I know what it means - thank you. I see no reason (nor consensus) to strongly disapprove of, or consider obsolete, {{
archive box}}. It's simpler than {{
archives}} in that it doesn't require the named |list=
parameter in order to create archives with an inline list. –
xeno
talk
19:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
These templates developed in parallel and were later merged by means of subclassing one to the other. {{
archives}} is "more flexible" in that it simply has more features, and should be used for new instances because it has more sensible defaults (auto=yes
is on by default, for instance). They were merged in order to present a consistent, attractive and universal solution to page archive notices and to stop the massive duplication of effort involved in maintaining multiple forks of basically the same thing. There is nothing stopping people from using {{
archive box}} for now if they want, but seeing as it's just a hard-coded instance of the other template there is no reason not to just use the base template directly (and as such it's just legacy code, the
deprecation of which is appropriate to eventually get everyone using the same code). As for why the merge went to {{
archives}} and not the other way around, it could probably have gone either way at the time but that's now irrelevant. I seem to recall you actually being present during the discussion in question, so it's a little puzzling that you've chosen to edit war over it
over a year after that recommendation was made (or indeed edit war over something so lame in the first place).
Chris Cunningham (not at work) -
talk
14:51, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
|auto=no
to it.
Chris Cunningham (not at work) -
talk
23:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
This is what happens when using archives with the first unnamed parameter |
{{{1}}}
through!
Chris Cunningham (not at work) -
talk
14:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)|auto=no
, and then use an unnamed parameter as normal. The default behaviour makes for minimal syntax when both numbered auto-archives and additional pages are needed. Regardless, that the other template doesn't have a particular set of defaults certainly does not mean that this wrapper needs to be promoted in parallel to it; the defaults are sensible for most uses and can be overridden for people who insist on their own special archives layout.
Chris Cunningham (not at work) -
talk
23:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)Is it time to do migration and merging with {{ archives}} and make this into a re-direct? -- Kslotte ( talk) 16:32, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
{{archive box|auto=long|editbox=yes}} {{archives}} {{archive box|auto=long}} {{archives}} {{archive box}} {{archives|auto=no|editbox=no}} {{archive box|editbox=yes}} {{archives|auto=no}}
-- Kslotte ( talk) 16:35, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
-- Kslotte ( talk) 16:42, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
A breakdown of the current template usage:
Based on this it would be simpler doing a migration {{ Archives}} --> {{ Archive box}}. Opinions? -- Kslotte ( talk) 23:13, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
After some thoughts I see the best compromise is to have archive template with default values "editbox=no" and "auto=long". -- Kslotte ( talk) 13:57, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
RE: who was confused by two boxes, I'll admit that I was until I found this page. "Legacy wrapper" suggests to me that using this template calls the other template, but it appears that is not the case (?). Anyway, it's worth cleaning up in my opinion. II | ( t - c)
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please update the title parameter to
And also reinstate the recent change to {{ Archives}} to restore the new default, according to Template talk:Archives#Edit request: Link title to index.
If there is a nice way to inherit the default value then that would be even better, but the best I can find is “to preserve the possible undefinedness” under meta:Help:Template#A parameter value depending on parameters which is so complicated it isn’t any better than doing it manually.
Vadmium ( talk, contribs) 05:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
I’ll try. Before my proposed change to {{ Archives}}, its title parameter is used like this:
In {{Archive box}} diff 294233019, the title parameter is passed through {{ Archive box}} to {{ Archives}}, and the same help link is introduced if this parameter is not specified. Now I am trying to have the {{ Archives}} title parameter used as follows, depending on whether the index parameter is specified:
I think {{ Archive box}} should use the plain text “Archives” if no title is specified, without specifying a link, since my changes to {{ Archives}} include the help link independently. Hope this explains things :)
If we were to simply unlink the help page in {{ Archives}} by default, this change to {{ Archive box}} would be less important because it wouldn’t be duplicated or broken by the index link. But I guess I would still prefer it be unlinked in {{ Archive box}} too. Vadmium ( talk, contribs) 11:30, 31 May 2012 (UTC).
{{archive box/sandbox|index=Foo}}
|
|
{{ Archive box/sandbox}} |
{{ Archives/sandbox}} |
It makes things more inconsistent; compare the two templates on the right. Why not just pass title={{{title|Archives}}} to keep it consistent with {{ Archives}}? Vadmium ( talk, contribs) 01:39, 1 June 2012 (UTC).
For clarity, I made User:Vadmium/Template:Archive box which has the precise change I was suggesting here. It still works with your latest changes to {{ Archives/sandbox}}. Vadmium ( talk, contribs) 02:00, 1 June 2012 (UTC).
This was introduced in 2008 but now seems to be redundant and therefore appears to require removal. It's still referred to in the /doc. -- Trevj ( talk) 08:30, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
How do I do mulitple titles, for example like this (ignoring beginning template call):
|title=2013 Archives| * [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] * [[/Archive 2|Archive 2]] |2014 Archives| * [[Another archive]] * etc.
I tried something like that, but I couldn't get it to work properly. Numbermaniac - T - C 08:47, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
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Please see 3rd box on Wikipedia:Archiving#Archive_box. Its image layout seems to be broken, however I was unable to fix it, can some admin help me with this and fix this ugly layout bug? Thanks in advance! -- Rezonansowy ( talk • contribs) 14:08, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I tried to put my talk page into an ArchiveBox. But the outcome is not what I intended. Esp. the Template {{Start multicol}} und the Template {{Multicol break}} do not seem to do what the documentation says. What did I do wrong?? -- hdamm ( talk) 08:43, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
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edit request to
Template:Archive box has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please consider the edit I just made to the sandbox version of the template for the live template. My similar change (functionally, not technically) worked well on meta. ( [1]). Change default to include search of archive feature. Elvey( t• c) 18:47, 13 June 2015 (UTC)