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I have removed the company logo from the template as per our fair use policy, which bans the usage of fair use images outside article-space. Thanks, Johnleemk | Talk 16:09, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
The reference to SSE5 has only historic interest because it has never been implemented, but replaced by XOP, etc. I think SSE5 should be removed from the template. The SSE5 page should of course be preserved for the sake of people who want to know where SSE5 has gone, but there should be no reference to it from the template. Afog ( talk) 11:48, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Where should Geode and Alchemy be put in this template? Alchemy sold to Raza, and Geode is in production... What do you think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.71.240.18 ( talk • contribs) 09:27, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Can somebody just put a list of RISC, VLIW or any type of discontinued (PLD ROMs, Cartridge...etc). = = I suck at AMD history. I will organize them, don't worry I expanded the Intel template from this to this with neutral POVs. -- Ramu50 ( talk) 03:35, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Nomadik STn8820 citation. -- Ramu50 ( talk) 22:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
To 218.102.110.78. First I never added any stuff about Intel on the AMD template. Before I even edit this template, I already renamed the MIDs (Intel) article, because there was no citation and absoultely no article on the webpages will would find Intel invented the term. MID refer to any type of Mobile Device, regardless of their purpose, shape, architecture, whatsoever. Since the first OLPC netbooks uses AMD Geode it is a MID. Netbook is a type of laptop/notebook which is a MIDs. It may sound stupid and weird to say that laptops/notebooks are MID, but MID devices use both Intel 32/64 AMD and ARM architecture, such as Pentium M, AMD Geode, Intel Atom and the ARM is eveywhere. Thus laptops/notebooks can be classify as Mobile Devices, just because they have different form factors doesn't mean they are excluded as a MID.
Second do not use term like uP, uArch. Wikipedia is not your instant messaging application. Also I didn't say Fusion and Bobcat aren't CPU+GPU, I recognized therefore I bracket them to make it easier to understand
By the way what the heck is uP. Microprocessors?
Also please don't use this article, I think you'll create more confusion between NexGen and AMD Next Generation Microarchitecture. Also AMD itself have its own defintion of NextGeneration which is also use by reviews, please don't define it yourself. I suggest you either improve the article (with history...etc if you wish to do so) or delete it. AMD NextGeneration currently refer to Puma and Kite platform. -- Ramu50 ( talk) 20:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Ref
-- Ramu50 ( talk) 20:22, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
“ | STOP removing MID. MID is made by AMD | ” |
Then you should read the Mobile Internet Device article for a revision on who proposed this idea of MID, AMD never mention the term MID, not even once in product presentations. You're the one who is being confused about almost anything by linking an AMD product and another completely different concept together and put it on Wikipedia, and create further confusion to people. -- 203.218.111.163 ( talk) 04:13, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
“ | Bulldozer is a execution core (not a standalone processor) | ” |
As an attempt to offer a third opinion could someone please state, clearly and with as little editorializing as possible, what the conflict is? I see personal attacks starting already and I'd like to step in if I could. Padillah ( talk) 17:43, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Given that neither this talk page nor the main template have been edited in almost two weeks I recommend reverting to the simplistic design from 19:26, 22 June 2008. It's clean and only mentions the necessary information. Unless I misunderstand, this is not a template for everything AMD, it's just a list of processors. So let's keep it a simple list of processors. I would do the revert but I'd like someone that knows chips to do it right. Padillah ( talk) 13:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Sorry haven't edit this template for a while, the reason I felt this template should be expanded, is I think this template improve all the misc template that is showing up for no reason, except for minor stub articles. The conflict before was mainly about, I think there are way too many people in Wikipedia that is biased on whether the product is MID or not when many reviews have clearly stated they are. They just don't use the term MID, because they don't want to lose buisness with Intel since they claims that it is invented by them, when it is not
Citation of MID [ http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_April_8/ai_84508719 Innovative Alchemy Au1100 Processor from AMD Sets New Standard for Mobile Internet Appliance Market ]
“ | AMD (NYSE: AMD) today announced the introduction of the Alchemy(TM) Au1100(TM) processor, targeting the non-PC mobile internet appliance market, such as web pads, telematics, and PDAs. | ” |
AMD don't invest in embedded systems, embedded systems have been separated from mobile application from a long time. Nowadays they are generally use for low-requirement such as LCD screen on the refrigerator, DVD players, dishwashers and many home appliances.
China MID report. Brand owners including Toshiba, Lenovo, Aigo, ASUS, BenQ have decided to launch MID product solutions based on Intel, AMD, TI and ARM in the second quarter of 2008 according to tremendous business opportunities on the MID market
I already found this long time ago. I just didn't want to argue with annoying who keep using IP address when he have a main account, that is totally disruptive, was going to report him, but nevermind. -- Ramu50 ( talk) 02:15, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Really? An AMD "clone" (I use the term casually) of the Intel 80286, which is the successor of the Intel 80186, which is the successor of the Intel 8086 is pre-8086?
Seriously! I would edit this out myself, but due to conflict, I would rather wait. Rilak ( talk) 10:25, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
That is not true Intel only developed SSE4.1 AMD developed SSE4a. Many of the SSE4.1 are even invented by Intel. They just incorporate / migrate technologies from other products on theirs. Such as DWORD is Microsoft. To be more specific, most of the technologies beyond SSE3 are not really invented by Intel nor AMD, some of them are propose by Intel Software Developer Network while AMD uses AMD Core Math Library (ACML). -- Ramu50 ( talk) 02:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Should lists be included in the template? I think it doesn't serve much purpose as people will go for the articles as they are more general, which link to the lists anyways. Rilak ( talk) 07:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Majority of the articles I've seen that directs to a specific topics does have list and I think it is require as template are for navigation and putting See Also in every single article is not necessary. -- Ramu50 ( talk) 01:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Ramu50, your version of the template has not gained community consensus for a variety of reasons as highlighted by multiple editors. I would suggest you stop reverting to your version. If you think that there can be improvements to the template, please discuss it with the community first before making major changes. If this continues, it will be considered to be edit warring and appropriate action, such as administrative intervention, will be sought. Rilak ( talk) 04:33, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah right the only one not approving the template is you and the other IP address guy. So far more than 80% of template I edit, the only one I seen in Wikipedia that is against is you, Thumperward and 203.218.111.163. Go ahead report to adminstrators, the template methdology I use on the following template, you and Thumperward claim most people disapprove it. Yet despite your load of craps doesn't show anything, when the exact opposite is happening in
What a load of crap hype you are trying to create, as if you are recruting somebody against me. Like that is a really mature way to edit Wikipedia. -- Ramu50 ( talk) 07:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Whatever, I quit editing to contributions to most of the template that is corporation based. The fact is most of the corporations in the industry aren't that good as they seem. Majority of them are modifications, and the continously problem of stubs and template stub, no one care about solving them together, but only keep on making new article, putting Wikipedia as if they are a place to advertise your open source products.
Modifications list
There more people to come like you that is keep on making excuses, when they can't even explain a simple topic on cloud computing, difference between MID and Embedded, difference between Server and Workstation processors.
FSF founder saying immature comment on Cloud Computing
Pat Gelsinger still thinking his Moore Law is right, when RAM industry already overrule him.
I seen the world in better days. Such a useless endless war I been involve. Wasted
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Ramu50 (
talk)
18:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Not sure if this should be discussed or if I should go ahead and do this myself, however I feel that it is necessary to have the autocollapse feature enabled on this template. Thanks! The Tech Geek ( talk) 09:15, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Added Expert-care request tag. The template is a mess as far as technical accuracy goes. It not only lacks most of the proper items, but the categorization is just bogus or in some cases pure marketing. If time and heaven allows, I will hopefully take the time to make it proper. For now tagging and hoping some nice soul will come :) Ihosama ( talk) 01:36, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
In case somebody would like to know, how other people do it, please have a look at: {{ Intel processors}} and {{ Intel processor roadmap}}. Now even though AMD were not nearly successful enough do adopt something like Intel Tick-Tock (another great article providing information) and eventually even became a fab-less semiconductor design company by spinning off GlobalFoundries, this and the other AMD templates ({{ AMD graphics}} and {{ AMD CPU sockets}}) could clearly benefit from benevolent and motivated people. In the current state, not only is it obvious that less and less motivated people are working on the AMD-Templates compared to the ones regarding Intel, but sometimes it even seems efforts to make them better are being sabotaged. User:ScotXW t@lk 13:49, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Why both APU and Athlon X4s line is categorized as discounted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlienKnuckle ( talk • contribs)
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I have removed the company logo from the template as per our fair use policy, which bans the usage of fair use images outside article-space. Thanks, Johnleemk | Talk 16:09, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
The reference to SSE5 has only historic interest because it has never been implemented, but replaced by XOP, etc. I think SSE5 should be removed from the template. The SSE5 page should of course be preserved for the sake of people who want to know where SSE5 has gone, but there should be no reference to it from the template. Afog ( talk) 11:48, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Where should Geode and Alchemy be put in this template? Alchemy sold to Raza, and Geode is in production... What do you think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.71.240.18 ( talk • contribs) 09:27, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Can somebody just put a list of RISC, VLIW or any type of discontinued (PLD ROMs, Cartridge...etc). = = I suck at AMD history. I will organize them, don't worry I expanded the Intel template from this to this with neutral POVs. -- Ramu50 ( talk) 03:35, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Nomadik STn8820 citation. -- Ramu50 ( talk) 22:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
To 218.102.110.78. First I never added any stuff about Intel on the AMD template. Before I even edit this template, I already renamed the MIDs (Intel) article, because there was no citation and absoultely no article on the webpages will would find Intel invented the term. MID refer to any type of Mobile Device, regardless of their purpose, shape, architecture, whatsoever. Since the first OLPC netbooks uses AMD Geode it is a MID. Netbook is a type of laptop/notebook which is a MIDs. It may sound stupid and weird to say that laptops/notebooks are MID, but MID devices use both Intel 32/64 AMD and ARM architecture, such as Pentium M, AMD Geode, Intel Atom and the ARM is eveywhere. Thus laptops/notebooks can be classify as Mobile Devices, just because they have different form factors doesn't mean they are excluded as a MID.
Second do not use term like uP, uArch. Wikipedia is not your instant messaging application. Also I didn't say Fusion and Bobcat aren't CPU+GPU, I recognized therefore I bracket them to make it easier to understand
By the way what the heck is uP. Microprocessors?
Also please don't use this article, I think you'll create more confusion between NexGen and AMD Next Generation Microarchitecture. Also AMD itself have its own defintion of NextGeneration which is also use by reviews, please don't define it yourself. I suggest you either improve the article (with history...etc if you wish to do so) or delete it. AMD NextGeneration currently refer to Puma and Kite platform. -- Ramu50 ( talk) 20:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Ref
-- Ramu50 ( talk) 20:22, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
“ | STOP removing MID. MID is made by AMD | ” |
Then you should read the Mobile Internet Device article for a revision on who proposed this idea of MID, AMD never mention the term MID, not even once in product presentations. You're the one who is being confused about almost anything by linking an AMD product and another completely different concept together and put it on Wikipedia, and create further confusion to people. -- 203.218.111.163 ( talk) 04:13, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
“ | Bulldozer is a execution core (not a standalone processor) | ” |
As an attempt to offer a third opinion could someone please state, clearly and with as little editorializing as possible, what the conflict is? I see personal attacks starting already and I'd like to step in if I could. Padillah ( talk) 17:43, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Given that neither this talk page nor the main template have been edited in almost two weeks I recommend reverting to the simplistic design from 19:26, 22 June 2008. It's clean and only mentions the necessary information. Unless I misunderstand, this is not a template for everything AMD, it's just a list of processors. So let's keep it a simple list of processors. I would do the revert but I'd like someone that knows chips to do it right. Padillah ( talk) 13:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Sorry haven't edit this template for a while, the reason I felt this template should be expanded, is I think this template improve all the misc template that is showing up for no reason, except for minor stub articles. The conflict before was mainly about, I think there are way too many people in Wikipedia that is biased on whether the product is MID or not when many reviews have clearly stated they are. They just don't use the term MID, because they don't want to lose buisness with Intel since they claims that it is invented by them, when it is not
Citation of MID [ http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_April_8/ai_84508719 Innovative Alchemy Au1100 Processor from AMD Sets New Standard for Mobile Internet Appliance Market ]
“ | AMD (NYSE: AMD) today announced the introduction of the Alchemy(TM) Au1100(TM) processor, targeting the non-PC mobile internet appliance market, such as web pads, telematics, and PDAs. | ” |
AMD don't invest in embedded systems, embedded systems have been separated from mobile application from a long time. Nowadays they are generally use for low-requirement such as LCD screen on the refrigerator, DVD players, dishwashers and many home appliances.
China MID report. Brand owners including Toshiba, Lenovo, Aigo, ASUS, BenQ have decided to launch MID product solutions based on Intel, AMD, TI and ARM in the second quarter of 2008 according to tremendous business opportunities on the MID market
I already found this long time ago. I just didn't want to argue with annoying who keep using IP address when he have a main account, that is totally disruptive, was going to report him, but nevermind. -- Ramu50 ( talk) 02:15, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Really? An AMD "clone" (I use the term casually) of the Intel 80286, which is the successor of the Intel 80186, which is the successor of the Intel 8086 is pre-8086?
Seriously! I would edit this out myself, but due to conflict, I would rather wait. Rilak ( talk) 10:25, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
That is not true Intel only developed SSE4.1 AMD developed SSE4a. Many of the SSE4.1 are even invented by Intel. They just incorporate / migrate technologies from other products on theirs. Such as DWORD is Microsoft. To be more specific, most of the technologies beyond SSE3 are not really invented by Intel nor AMD, some of them are propose by Intel Software Developer Network while AMD uses AMD Core Math Library (ACML). -- Ramu50 ( talk) 02:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Should lists be included in the template? I think it doesn't serve much purpose as people will go for the articles as they are more general, which link to the lists anyways. Rilak ( talk) 07:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Majority of the articles I've seen that directs to a specific topics does have list and I think it is require as template are for navigation and putting See Also in every single article is not necessary. -- Ramu50 ( talk) 01:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Ramu50, your version of the template has not gained community consensus for a variety of reasons as highlighted by multiple editors. I would suggest you stop reverting to your version. If you think that there can be improvements to the template, please discuss it with the community first before making major changes. If this continues, it will be considered to be edit warring and appropriate action, such as administrative intervention, will be sought. Rilak ( talk) 04:33, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah right the only one not approving the template is you and the other IP address guy. So far more than 80% of template I edit, the only one I seen in Wikipedia that is against is you, Thumperward and 203.218.111.163. Go ahead report to adminstrators, the template methdology I use on the following template, you and Thumperward claim most people disapprove it. Yet despite your load of craps doesn't show anything, when the exact opposite is happening in
What a load of crap hype you are trying to create, as if you are recruting somebody against me. Like that is a really mature way to edit Wikipedia. -- Ramu50 ( talk) 07:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Whatever, I quit editing to contributions to most of the template that is corporation based. The fact is most of the corporations in the industry aren't that good as they seem. Majority of them are modifications, and the continously problem of stubs and template stub, no one care about solving them together, but only keep on making new article, putting Wikipedia as if they are a place to advertise your open source products.
Modifications list
There more people to come like you that is keep on making excuses, when they can't even explain a simple topic on cloud computing, difference between MID and Embedded, difference between Server and Workstation processors.
FSF founder saying immature comment on Cloud Computing
Pat Gelsinger still thinking his Moore Law is right, when RAM industry already overrule him.
I seen the world in better days. Such a useless endless war I been involve. Wasted
--
Ramu50 (
talk)
18:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Not sure if this should be discussed or if I should go ahead and do this myself, however I feel that it is necessary to have the autocollapse feature enabled on this template. Thanks! The Tech Geek ( talk) 09:15, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Added Expert-care request tag. The template is a mess as far as technical accuracy goes. It not only lacks most of the proper items, but the categorization is just bogus or in some cases pure marketing. If time and heaven allows, I will hopefully take the time to make it proper. For now tagging and hoping some nice soul will come :) Ihosama ( talk) 01:36, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
In case somebody would like to know, how other people do it, please have a look at: {{ Intel processors}} and {{ Intel processor roadmap}}. Now even though AMD were not nearly successful enough do adopt something like Intel Tick-Tock (another great article providing information) and eventually even became a fab-less semiconductor design company by spinning off GlobalFoundries, this and the other AMD templates ({{ AMD graphics}} and {{ AMD CPU sockets}}) could clearly benefit from benevolent and motivated people. In the current state, not only is it obvious that less and less motivated people are working on the AMD-Templates compared to the ones regarding Intel, but sometimes it even seems efforts to make them better are being sabotaged. User:ScotXW t@lk 13:49, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Why both APU and Athlon X4s line is categorized as discounted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlienKnuckle ( talk • contribs)