The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PumpkinSky talk 01:35, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Michael Roach (soccer)

• ... that Michael Roach, an American professional soccer player, played in college with future teammates Kevin Alston and Alec Purdie?

Created/expanded by Achowat ( talk), UncleTupelo1 ( talk). Nominated by Achowat ( talk) at 20:36, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

• At 1369 Bytes of readable prose, the article is too short to qualify for DYK. Can you expand it, please? 1500 Bytes is the minimum, but that doesn't mean you should stop there :) I haven't as yet checked anything else. Schwede 66 07:00, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

• Some new sources found and it has been expanded to (according to MS Word) over 1,500. I'm not done checking for sources, I'm just wondering if the WikiScript has us over 1,500 by now. Achowat ( talk) 16:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

• New enough, long enough, Duplication Detector doesn't show anything of concern, article is suitably referenced. The only outstanding issue is that the hook fact itself is not referenced in the article. There needs to be a reference immediately after the sentence that mentions the hook fact, and that reference needs to verify the hook fact. Beyond this single missing DYK requirement, if you want to further improve the article, you could add a section on early life, listing where he went to school, who his parents are etc. But for DYK purposes, referencing the hook fact will do. Schwede 66 18:51, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

• The hook is referenced in the first Ref, the "biography ref", if you will, that gives his hometown, birthday, height, etc. Does the DYK process require that the same reference be cited again after the hook? I'm pretty new to DYK, and content creation in general, so it'd be nice to know how to do this, and do it correctly. Achowat ( talk) 12:51, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

• This diff will show you how to repeat a reference, but you can read up on it if you need further help. Ref 1 doesn't work for me (I get a 502 Bad Gateway error). Maybe the web server is down, or maybe it only works from the States. Will look at it again later, or maybe somebody else could check. Schwede 66 19:32, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

• It looks like MLSSoccer.com is down entirely. Should be back up soon, I hope. Achowat ( talk) 19:34, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Ok, MLSSoccer is up again. The source confirms that Alston and Purdie played with Roach at Indiana, but it doesn't confirm that Alston and Purdie later played at New England Revolution (note that Wikipedia itself is not regarded as a reliable source). Can you slot references for those guys' time with New England into the sentence? When done, all should be good. Schwede 66 21:39, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

I've added the current Revolution roster, listing all three players as active. Given the access date of today, that should suffice, correct? Achowat ( talk) 20:18, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Yep; good to go. Schwede 66 21:01, 5 June 2012 (UTC)