ALT1: ... that Enchylium limosum(pictured) has had a taxonomic journey spanning centuries, undergoing numerous
name changes before finally receiving its current accepted name in 2013? Source:
123
I'll review this. Article length and eligibility checks out, and is generally quite presentable. I see no evidence of copyvio. Out of all of these, I think ALT2 is the best; but I don't really see evidence that it "loves lime" beyond its name, and the article is a bit vague about what the "loving" portion of "lime-loving" means. Unfortunately, I think the other two hooks are lengthy and not very interesting to a non-specialist audience. Can you find any sources about why it's a lime-loving lichen?
Generalissima (
talk) (it/she) 05:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Comments:
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Generalissima, Hey thanks for reviewing the article. The term "lime-loving" in the common name "Lime-loving Tarpaper Lichen" refers to the preference of Enchylium limosum for habitats with alkaline or
calcareous substrates.
Limestone, which contains calcium carbonate, is commonly referred to as "
lime," hence the name. Lichens like Enchylium limosum thrive in environments where calcium-rich minerals are present, such as limestone or dolomitic rocks. This particular fact is mentioned throughout the sources that are used in the article. Common names given to species are pretty much self-explanatory in most cases, including this one. These sources, although not particularly about the article's subject, will give an idea of why such species of the genera are called "lime-loving."
1,
[2].Sources that mention Enchylium limosum's calcareious habitat and common name are abundant and used throughout the article hence I felt it's redundant to mention them here.I hope I was able to provide some ideas. Let me know if you have other questions/suggestions. Regards.Edit: If you feel necessary, I can try to add more information explaining/shedding some background behind its common name in the etymology/taxonomy section.
X (
talk) 08:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
@
Generalissima and
Xoak: What is the status of this nom? (For the record, my gut reaction would be that saying something called "lime-loving" loves lime would come under
WP:SKYISBLUE, although I'm happy to be swayed.)--Launchballer 09:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
@
Launchballer: I'm waiting myself to know. But nobody picked up on this.
X (
talk) 09:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
I want to give this a couple of days for Generalissima to respond. Personally, I'd merge some of the single-sentence paragraphs per
MOS:PARA; technically this isn't a DYK issue but it is part of the GA criteria and this article's a candidate, so worth remedying now.--Launchballer 09:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestions. I've merged some. Please feel free to suggest anything else you have in mind.
X (
talk)
If I approve any hook on this page, it is probably going to be ALT2, although it given that the "lime-loving" bit comes from an alternative name that doesn't include "enchylium limosum", it might be worth proposing a belt-and-braces ALT using the second half of that name. I do not expect to need it though.--Launchballer 14:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
As the creator, I'd prefer ALT 2 as well.
X (
talk) 16:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Enchylium limosum(pictured) has had a taxonomic journey spanning centuries, undergoing numerous
name changes before finally receiving its current accepted name in 2013? Source:
123
I'll review this. Article length and eligibility checks out, and is generally quite presentable. I see no evidence of copyvio. Out of all of these, I think ALT2 is the best; but I don't really see evidence that it "loves lime" beyond its name, and the article is a bit vague about what the "loving" portion of "lime-loving" means. Unfortunately, I think the other two hooks are lengthy and not very interesting to a non-specialist audience. Can you find any sources about why it's a lime-loving lichen?
Generalissima (
talk) (it/she) 05:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Comments:
@
Generalissima, Hey thanks for reviewing the article. The term "lime-loving" in the common name "Lime-loving Tarpaper Lichen" refers to the preference of Enchylium limosum for habitats with alkaline or
calcareous substrates.
Limestone, which contains calcium carbonate, is commonly referred to as "
lime," hence the name. Lichens like Enchylium limosum thrive in environments where calcium-rich minerals are present, such as limestone or dolomitic rocks. This particular fact is mentioned throughout the sources that are used in the article. Common names given to species are pretty much self-explanatory in most cases, including this one. These sources, although not particularly about the article's subject, will give an idea of why such species of the genera are called "lime-loving."
1,
[2].Sources that mention Enchylium limosum's calcareious habitat and common name are abundant and used throughout the article hence I felt it's redundant to mention them here.I hope I was able to provide some ideas. Let me know if you have other questions/suggestions. Regards.Edit: If you feel necessary, I can try to add more information explaining/shedding some background behind its common name in the etymology/taxonomy section.
X (
talk) 08:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
@
Generalissima and
Xoak: What is the status of this nom? (For the record, my gut reaction would be that saying something called "lime-loving" loves lime would come under
WP:SKYISBLUE, although I'm happy to be swayed.)--Launchballer 09:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
@
Launchballer: I'm waiting myself to know. But nobody picked up on this.
X (
talk) 09:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
I want to give this a couple of days for Generalissima to respond. Personally, I'd merge some of the single-sentence paragraphs per
MOS:PARA; technically this isn't a DYK issue but it is part of the GA criteria and this article's a candidate, so worth remedying now.--Launchballer 09:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestions. I've merged some. Please feel free to suggest anything else you have in mind.
X (
talk)
If I approve any hook on this page, it is probably going to be ALT2, although it given that the "lime-loving" bit comes from an alternative name that doesn't include "enchylium limosum", it might be worth proposing a belt-and-braces ALT using the second half of that name. I do not expect to need it though.--Launchballer 14:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
As the creator, I'd prefer ALT 2 as well.
X (
talk) 16:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)