The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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the article's talk page or
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The result was: promoted by
Theleekycauldron (
talk) 07:28, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
... that in 1960 Zoe Progl became the first woman to escape over the wall of
HM Prison Holloway(pictured)? Source: "Police caught up with "Zippy" Zoe Progl, the first and only woman to escape over the 25-foot wall of Holloway women's prison" from:
"Police Capture 'ZIppy' Zoe Progl". Latrobe Bulletin (page 1). Newspapers.com. 3 September 1960. Retrieved 13 December 2021.
ALT1: ... that Zoe Progl specialised in "jump up" heists of lorries in 1950s London and once stole £250,000 of furs? Source: "she branched into 'jump ups', stealing lorries around the London Docks and selling their contents" from chapter 14 of Davies, Caitlin (14 October 2021).
Queens of the Underworld: A Journey into the Lives of Female Crooks. History Press.
ISBN978-0-7509-9911-3. and "It opens in 1960 and tells the tale of Zoe Progl, a professional crook who once stole £250,000-worth of furs in a single heist." from: Bindel, Julie (6 November 2021).
"It's time female fraudsters received their due". The Spectator. Retrieved 13 December 2021.
ALT2: ... that robber Zoe Progl was arrested after police tracked a safe to her lodgings by the scratch marks left by dragging it along the street? Source: "the police had followed the scratch marks on the pavement leading to Zoe's flat" from chapter 14 of Davies, Caitlin (14 October 2021).
Queens of the Underworld: A Journey into the Lives of Female Crooks. History Press.
ISBN978-0-7509-9911-3.
ALT3: ... that a solicitor refused to represent Zoe Progl in a case because it was his safe she had robbed? Source: "she rang a local solictor's firm for help and told a Mr. Piper about her troubles. There was a brief pause, and he replied, 'My dear young lady. I would love to help you but I'm afraid that were I to do so I would be guilty of unprofessional conduct, because I have a personal interest in the case - you see it's my safe you've stolen" from: chapter 14 of Davies, Caitlin (14 October 2021).
Queens of the Underworld: A Journey into the Lives of Female Crooks. History Press.
ISBN978-0-7509-9911-3.
Moved to mainspace by
Dumelow (
talk). Self-nominated at 08:40, 31 December 2021 (UTC).
New, long, & neutral enuf. Great story - ready for the movie. Original & ALTs 1-3 check out, except the pavement/floor discrepancy in ALT2 - use "street"? All are good, ALT2 maybe best. Pic ok, but only relevant to original hook. Earwig finds nothing, though it can't access the main source. I can't see the relevant chapter, so will have to AGF on paraphrasing from that.
Johnbod (
talk) 23:56, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the review
Johnbod. Good point about "pavement", I've switched to "street" here and in the article -
Dumelow (
talk) 07:26, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, GTG.
Johnbod (
talk) 13:45, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
I've added an "it" also - hope that's ok.
Johnbod (
talk) 13:47, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Theleekycauldron (
talk) 07:28, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
... that in 1960 Zoe Progl became the first woman to escape over the wall of
HM Prison Holloway(pictured)? Source: "Police caught up with "Zippy" Zoe Progl, the first and only woman to escape over the 25-foot wall of Holloway women's prison" from:
"Police Capture 'ZIppy' Zoe Progl". Latrobe Bulletin (page 1). Newspapers.com. 3 September 1960. Retrieved 13 December 2021.
ALT1: ... that Zoe Progl specialised in "jump up" heists of lorries in 1950s London and once stole £250,000 of furs? Source: "she branched into 'jump ups', stealing lorries around the London Docks and selling their contents" from chapter 14 of Davies, Caitlin (14 October 2021).
Queens of the Underworld: A Journey into the Lives of Female Crooks. History Press.
ISBN978-0-7509-9911-3. and "It opens in 1960 and tells the tale of Zoe Progl, a professional crook who once stole £250,000-worth of furs in a single heist." from: Bindel, Julie (6 November 2021).
"It's time female fraudsters received their due". The Spectator. Retrieved 13 December 2021.
ALT2: ... that robber Zoe Progl was arrested after police tracked a safe to her lodgings by the scratch marks left by dragging it along the street? Source: "the police had followed the scratch marks on the pavement leading to Zoe's flat" from chapter 14 of Davies, Caitlin (14 October 2021).
Queens of the Underworld: A Journey into the Lives of Female Crooks. History Press.
ISBN978-0-7509-9911-3.
ALT3: ... that a solicitor refused to represent Zoe Progl in a case because it was his safe she had robbed? Source: "she rang a local solictor's firm for help and told a Mr. Piper about her troubles. There was a brief pause, and he replied, 'My dear young lady. I would love to help you but I'm afraid that were I to do so I would be guilty of unprofessional conduct, because I have a personal interest in the case - you see it's my safe you've stolen" from: chapter 14 of Davies, Caitlin (14 October 2021).
Queens of the Underworld: A Journey into the Lives of Female Crooks. History Press.
ISBN978-0-7509-9911-3.
Moved to mainspace by
Dumelow (
talk). Self-nominated at 08:40, 31 December 2021 (UTC).
New, long, & neutral enuf. Great story - ready for the movie. Original & ALTs 1-3 check out, except the pavement/floor discrepancy in ALT2 - use "street"? All are good, ALT2 maybe best. Pic ok, but only relevant to original hook. Earwig finds nothing, though it can't access the main source. I can't see the relevant chapter, so will have to AGF on paraphrasing from that.
Johnbod (
talk) 23:56, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the review
Johnbod. Good point about "pavement", I've switched to "street" here and in the article -
Dumelow (
talk) 07:26, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, GTG.
Johnbod (
talk) 13:45, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
I've added an "it" also - hope that's ok.
Johnbod (
talk) 13:47, 7 January 2022 (UTC)