The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 07:10, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Created/expanded by
The ed17 (
talk). Self-nominated at 04:01, 22 September 2018 (UTC).
New and long enough, a
copyvio check reveals no problems, hook content is interesting and is verified with a citation to a reliable source in the article. Matters to be resolved: 1) The Episodes section has no sources, 2) QPQ needs to be completed. North America1000 08:49, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
@
The ed17: I don't want to be a stickler, but
Wikipedia:How to write a plot summary is an opinion essay, whereas per
D2 of the DYK Supplementary guidelines states, "A rule of thumb is one inline citation per paragraph, excluding the lead, plot summaries, and paragraphs which summarize other cited content." I'm not sure that the first table in the Episodes section could be considered as a plot summary, because it's not. Rather, it's a list. Also, the airing dates in that first episodes box are not sourced anywhere else in the article. Furthermore, the external links you added to the article with all of the YouTube links could potentially violate
WP:NOTDIR. North America1000 18:22, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
I mean, I could convert it all to citation templates, but functionally it'd be the same thing—taking airing dates and credits straight from the linked videos. That's exactly why plot summaries aren't required to have citations. (Also, I didn't add the tables, a new user did. ;-) )
Ed[talk][majestic titan] 18:25, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
(ec) Also, the Worth It: Lifestyle Episodes section has no sources as well. The problem is, when you finish your QPQ, if I were to then just say, "oh well, I guess it's fine", another user can then come along and state how 1) the review was in error and 2) that the article doesn't qualify without some sources in these sections. Seems easier just to add some sources. North America1000 18:27, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
I'm
working on the new additions. :-) I've brought this question to
WT:DYK#Episode lists, and I hope you understand that I'm doing that with absolutely no malice towards you—I'm just surprised at the rule and would like to have it clarified if possible!
Ed[talk][majestic titan] 18:37, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Ed hasn't edited since October and has been unable to provide a completed QPQ. In the interest of this nomination continuing, I'm donating one of my unused QPQs (
Template:Did you know nominations/Cheerleading in Australia). The sourcing issues appear to be addressed, so I'm now giving this the tick. Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew 04:31, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 07:10, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Created/expanded by
The ed17 (
talk). Self-nominated at 04:01, 22 September 2018 (UTC).
New and long enough, a
copyvio check reveals no problems, hook content is interesting and is verified with a citation to a reliable source in the article. Matters to be resolved: 1) The Episodes section has no sources, 2) QPQ needs to be completed. North America1000 08:49, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
@
The ed17: I don't want to be a stickler, but
Wikipedia:How to write a plot summary is an opinion essay, whereas per
D2 of the DYK Supplementary guidelines states, "A rule of thumb is one inline citation per paragraph, excluding the lead, plot summaries, and paragraphs which summarize other cited content." I'm not sure that the first table in the Episodes section could be considered as a plot summary, because it's not. Rather, it's a list. Also, the airing dates in that first episodes box are not sourced anywhere else in the article. Furthermore, the external links you added to the article with all of the YouTube links could potentially violate
WP:NOTDIR. North America1000 18:22, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
I mean, I could convert it all to citation templates, but functionally it'd be the same thing—taking airing dates and credits straight from the linked videos. That's exactly why plot summaries aren't required to have citations. (Also, I didn't add the tables, a new user did. ;-) )
Ed[talk][majestic titan] 18:25, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
(ec) Also, the Worth It: Lifestyle Episodes section has no sources as well. The problem is, when you finish your QPQ, if I were to then just say, "oh well, I guess it's fine", another user can then come along and state how 1) the review was in error and 2) that the article doesn't qualify without some sources in these sections. Seems easier just to add some sources. North America1000 18:27, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
I'm
working on the new additions. :-) I've brought this question to
WT:DYK#Episode lists, and I hope you understand that I'm doing that with absolutely no malice towards you—I'm just surprised at the rule and would like to have it clarified if possible!
Ed[talk][majestic titan] 18:37, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Ed hasn't edited since October and has been unable to provide a completed QPQ. In the interest of this nomination continuing, I'm donating one of my unused QPQs (
Template:Did you know nominations/Cheerleading in Australia). The sourcing issues appear to be addressed, so I'm now giving this the tick. Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew 04:31, 9 November 2018 (UTC)