The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 05:57, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Adequate sourcing: - I think there's some unsourced analysis in the section covering the characters. See
WP:OR–Try to pull analysis from secondary sources, instead of interpreting the book on your own.
Interesting: - I think the hook is a little too straightforward. Maybe pull an interesting bit from the book, or preferably from a review of the book?
QPQ: None required.
Overall: We're not quite ready for DYK, but I wouldn't give up just yet–let's see if we can't clean up the section on the characters and improve the hook, and then we'll be good to go!
theleekycauldron (
talk •
contribs) (
they/them) 19:40, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
I'd be happy to help, but I'm not familiar with writing about novels on Wikipedia. Perhaps someone from
WikiProject Novels could offer guidance?
Michael Barera (
talk) 05:06, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Comment: (pinging participants:
Theleekycauldron and
Madeleinerberry) as a regular from
WP:YA, the sourcing seems fine, since plot and characters section usually only ask for sourcing for direct quotes and contentious material. I edited the reception section to remove an unsourced affirmation, and the third paragraph is also potentially unsourced, so I'd recommend ditching it. Aside from that, no big worries about
WP:RS. Hope this helps.
Isabelle🔔 03:40, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Per
WP:DYK under Content - "If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way."
SL93 (
talk) 06:35, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
There is also a verifiability tag that needs taken care of.
SL93 (
talk) 06:38, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
I removed some of the unsourced statements in the characters' section, it honestly should be fine now—the book is the source for the statements.
theleekycauldron (
talk •
contribs) (
they/them) 06:48, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
@
Theleekycauldron: I think that would work. As for the tag on the article, it looks like only the Sequels section would need to be referenced.
SL93 (
talk) 06:49, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 05:57, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Adequate sourcing: - I think there's some unsourced analysis in the section covering the characters. See
WP:OR–Try to pull analysis from secondary sources, instead of interpreting the book on your own.
Interesting: - I think the hook is a little too straightforward. Maybe pull an interesting bit from the book, or preferably from a review of the book?
QPQ: None required.
Overall: We're not quite ready for DYK, but I wouldn't give up just yet–let's see if we can't clean up the section on the characters and improve the hook, and then we'll be good to go!
theleekycauldron (
talk •
contribs) (
they/them) 19:40, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
I'd be happy to help, but I'm not familiar with writing about novels on Wikipedia. Perhaps someone from
WikiProject Novels could offer guidance?
Michael Barera (
talk) 05:06, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Comment: (pinging participants:
Theleekycauldron and
Madeleinerberry) as a regular from
WP:YA, the sourcing seems fine, since plot and characters section usually only ask for sourcing for direct quotes and contentious material. I edited the reception section to remove an unsourced affirmation, and the third paragraph is also potentially unsourced, so I'd recommend ditching it. Aside from that, no big worries about
WP:RS. Hope this helps.
Isabelle🔔 03:40, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Per
WP:DYK under Content - "If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way."
SL93 (
talk) 06:35, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
There is also a verifiability tag that needs taken care of.
SL93 (
talk) 06:38, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
I removed some of the unsourced statements in the characters' section, it honestly should be fine now—the book is the source for the statements.
theleekycauldron (
talk •
contribs) (
they/them) 06:48, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
@
Theleekycauldron: I think that would work. As for the tag on the article, it looks like only the Sequels section would need to be referenced.
SL93 (
talk) 06:49, 3 September 2021 (UTC)