The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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the article's talk page or
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The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 07:29, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Moved to mainspace by
Dumelow (
talk). Self-nominated at 08:30, 26 February 2019 (UTC).
Solid article on good sources, and, no I didn't know any of it ;) - Offline source accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed, and if it's taken we can drop "18th century" because it shows, - but it's a bit pale. I am not enthusiastic about the hooks. How many of our readers will even know what feudal system means, nor be attracted. (The other day, they really expalined that Arabella is "an opera composed".) How about how unliked and inefficient it was, or mention hussar methods? Mention "Yeonmanry"? --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 08:36, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi
Gerda Arendt. Sorry, I have been very limited in my contributions recently. I will try to get a look at this nom later today -
Dumelow (
talk) 07:43, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi
Gerda Arendt, I've now carried out a QPQ at
Template:Did you know nominations/Notocrinus virilis. If our readers are struggling with "fuedal system" (though I think that is a reasonably common term) then they will have no chance with "hussar" which is a specific type of light cavalry. Personally I found it quite interesting that men were being compelled to provide military service on a feudal basis in England as late as 1802. A few alternative hooks follow -
Dumelow (
talk) 10:50, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
... that English counties could be absolved of the requirement to raise Provisional Cavalry units if sufficient numbers of
Yeomanry were available?
ALT3: ... that the late 18th-century Provisional Cavalry were described by British parliamentarian
Sir Mark Wood as an "unpopular measure ... so little calculated to afford any adequate degree of security to the public"?
... that only six regiments of the British Provisional Cavalry were ever embodied?
... that only one regiment of the British Provisional Cavalry was ever called upon to serve?
... that members of the Provisional Cavalry who were absorbed into the
Yeomanry were often ostracised for being of lower social status?
Wow! Thank you for the load of ALTs! Would the original hook perhaps work adding something like "medieval", for those who have to click to know what it means? Of the others, I like ALT3 best, - perhaps with a year/period (not to suggest it might have been recently, or way back) unless you want to rely on the language style alone? --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 10:59, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
approving the original and ALT3, and too lazy to strike the others, and open to modifications as suggested. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 10:59, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks
Gerda, I've struck the non-approved and added some clarification on the dates as you suggested -
Dumelow (
talk) 11:23, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 07:29, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Moved to mainspace by
Dumelow (
talk). Self-nominated at 08:30, 26 February 2019 (UTC).
Solid article on good sources, and, no I didn't know any of it ;) - Offline source accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed, and if it's taken we can drop "18th century" because it shows, - but it's a bit pale. I am not enthusiastic about the hooks. How many of our readers will even know what feudal system means, nor be attracted. (The other day, they really expalined that Arabella is "an opera composed".) How about how unliked and inefficient it was, or mention hussar methods? Mention "Yeonmanry"? --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 08:36, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi
Gerda Arendt. Sorry, I have been very limited in my contributions recently. I will try to get a look at this nom later today -
Dumelow (
talk) 07:43, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi
Gerda Arendt, I've now carried out a QPQ at
Template:Did you know nominations/Notocrinus virilis. If our readers are struggling with "fuedal system" (though I think that is a reasonably common term) then they will have no chance with "hussar" which is a specific type of light cavalry. Personally I found it quite interesting that men were being compelled to provide military service on a feudal basis in England as late as 1802. A few alternative hooks follow -
Dumelow (
talk) 10:50, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
... that English counties could be absolved of the requirement to raise Provisional Cavalry units if sufficient numbers of
Yeomanry were available?
ALT3: ... that the late 18th-century Provisional Cavalry were described by British parliamentarian
Sir Mark Wood as an "unpopular measure ... so little calculated to afford any adequate degree of security to the public"?
... that only six regiments of the British Provisional Cavalry were ever embodied?
... that only one regiment of the British Provisional Cavalry was ever called upon to serve?
... that members of the Provisional Cavalry who were absorbed into the
Yeomanry were often ostracised for being of lower social status?
Wow! Thank you for the load of ALTs! Would the original hook perhaps work adding something like "medieval", for those who have to click to know what it means? Of the others, I like ALT3 best, - perhaps with a year/period (not to suggest it might have been recently, or way back) unless you want to rely on the language style alone? --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 10:59, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
approving the original and ALT3, and too lazy to strike the others, and open to modifications as suggested. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 10:59, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks
Gerda, I've struck the non-approved and added some clarification on the dates as you suggested -
Dumelow (
talk) 11:23, 28 March 2019 (UTC)