The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by
BlueMoonset (
talk) 02:39, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Withdrawn by nominator; reconfirmed this on their talk page.
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Created by SL93 ( talk). Self-nominated at 03:13, 9 August 2017 (UTC).
Member of what? The sorority? That's fine, but doesn't change the fact that an unsourced statement, on the website of a college sorority, to the effect that no one anywhere (in the world, presumably, or maybe in the US) did a certain thing until one their members did it, cannot possibly be taken as reliable. This "museum" [2] has not "been around since 1902" – the sorority itself has – but regardless of its age, a "museum" run by college students isn't a museum in any sense we can use here, and that's true even if "The home was purchased by Delta Zeta in 1981 and expanded throughout the years. It now serves as a museum and the headquarters of the sorority. The first floor holds all of the artifacts and memorabilia for the museum. It also holds two conference rooms, a kitchen, an executive office wing, and offices of the organization, and rooms where visiting alumni can stay." Find a modern scholarly source on the history of social services to the blind, or you'll have to go with another hook. E Eng 17:38, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
I would like to withdraw this. Not because I think I'm wrong, but because I don't think Wikipedia is one of the greatest things ever and this argument isn't worth my time.
SL93 (
talk) 17:52, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
a college sorority's website is not an RS for anything outside its own history and, possibly, direct biographical facts about its members(e.g. there's no way a sorority can be considered reliable on the assertion that no one before Campbell was a social worker helping the blind -- they're not experts on the history of social work or the history of blindness); but the Woman of the Year is an award given by the sorority itself [3], and they're certainly reliable for their own awards. E Eng 21:01, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by
BlueMoonset (
talk) 02:39, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Withdrawn by nominator; reconfirmed this on their talk page.
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Created by SL93 ( talk). Self-nominated at 03:13, 9 August 2017 (UTC).
Member of what? The sorority? That's fine, but doesn't change the fact that an unsourced statement, on the website of a college sorority, to the effect that no one anywhere (in the world, presumably, or maybe in the US) did a certain thing until one their members did it, cannot possibly be taken as reliable. This "museum" [2] has not "been around since 1902" – the sorority itself has – but regardless of its age, a "museum" run by college students isn't a museum in any sense we can use here, and that's true even if "The home was purchased by Delta Zeta in 1981 and expanded throughout the years. It now serves as a museum and the headquarters of the sorority. The first floor holds all of the artifacts and memorabilia for the museum. It also holds two conference rooms, a kitchen, an executive office wing, and offices of the organization, and rooms where visiting alumni can stay." Find a modern scholarly source on the history of social services to the blind, or you'll have to go with another hook. E Eng 17:38, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
I would like to withdraw this. Not because I think I'm wrong, but because I don't think Wikipedia is one of the greatest things ever and this argument isn't worth my time.
SL93 (
talk) 17:52, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
a college sorority's website is not an RS for anything outside its own history and, possibly, direct biographical facts about its members(e.g. there's no way a sorority can be considered reliable on the assertion that no one before Campbell was a social worker helping the blind -- they're not experts on the history of social work or the history of blindness); but the Woman of the Year is an award given by the sorority itself [3], and they're certainly reliable for their own awards. E Eng 21:01, 16 August 2017 (UTC)