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María Pacheco

  • Source: *Fink De Backer, Stephanie (2004). "Rebel with a Cause: The Marriage of María Pacheco and the Formation of Mendoza Identity". In Nader, Helen (ed.). Power and Gender in Renaissance Spain: Eight Women of the Mendoza Family, 1450-1650. University of Illinois Press. pp. 79–81. ISBN  0-252-02868-6.
Improved to Good Article status by Grnrchst ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 36 past nominations.

Grnrchst ( talk) 09:40, 7 June 2024 (UTC).

  • Comment – I will review this nomination. – Editør ( talk) 09:39, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
  • Review – The article is new enough (passed as GA on 6 June 2024), long enough (12000+ characters of prose), has no copyright issues, and is presentable (both per Talk:María Pacheco/GA1). The originally proposed hook is cited and interesting. Although the linked source is not available without an account, I was able to confirm the information by other sources [1] [2], so I don't see an issue here. I want to propose an alternative that focuses more on María Pacheco instead of her husband and avoids changing 'Toledo' into the modern 'Toledo, Spain', let me know if there are any issues with ALT4 before I pass it. – Editør ( talk) 10:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
    ALT4 ... that María Pacheco led the Revolt of the Comuneros in the Kingdom of Toledo after the death of her husband?
    No issues with ALT4, although I personally think ALTs 1, 2 and 3 are more interesting. -- Grnrchst ( talk) 12:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
    Ok. I also thought ALT2 was interesting, but I couldn't find an alternative source for this to confirm this information; do you have one? And I would propose to change it to remove the modern 'Spanish' and the article 'the' because there were more leaders into: – Editør ( talk) 12:59, 23 June 2024‎ (UTC)
    ALT5: ... that 16th-century chroniclers thought María Pacheco, a leader of the Revolt of the Comuneros, was a witch?
    Good point about dropping the apocryphal use of "Spanish", I think ALT5 looks good as well. Here's the direct quote from Fleming 2018, p. 270:

    Her actions drew the ire of contemporary chroniclers, who depict her as a tyrannical virago. Having earlier commented that she dominated her marriage as the “husband of her husband,” Martire links her protagonism to madness, and even to demonic possession; Santa Cruz relates it to witchcraft. Like Juana’s moriscas in earlier days, Pacheco’s were looked upon askance. Fray Guevara describes Pacheco working with a “mad” slave or “great witch,” who stoked her ambitions.

    -- Grnrchst ( talk) 13:19, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
    pass ALT5. – Editør ( talk) 13:21, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

María Pacheco

  • Source: *Fink De Backer, Stephanie (2004). "Rebel with a Cause: The Marriage of María Pacheco and the Formation of Mendoza Identity". In Nader, Helen (ed.). Power and Gender in Renaissance Spain: Eight Women of the Mendoza Family, 1450-1650. University of Illinois Press. pp. 79–81. ISBN  0-252-02868-6.
Improved to Good Article status by Grnrchst ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 36 past nominations.

Grnrchst ( talk) 09:40, 7 June 2024 (UTC).

  • Comment – I will review this nomination. – Editør ( talk) 09:39, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
  • Review – The article is new enough (passed as GA on 6 June 2024), long enough (12000+ characters of prose), has no copyright issues, and is presentable (both per Talk:María Pacheco/GA1). The originally proposed hook is cited and interesting. Although the linked source is not available without an account, I was able to confirm the information by other sources [1] [2], so I don't see an issue here. I want to propose an alternative that focuses more on María Pacheco instead of her husband and avoids changing 'Toledo' into the modern 'Toledo, Spain', let me know if there are any issues with ALT4 before I pass it. – Editør ( talk) 10:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
    ALT4 ... that María Pacheco led the Revolt of the Comuneros in the Kingdom of Toledo after the death of her husband?
    No issues with ALT4, although I personally think ALTs 1, 2 and 3 are more interesting. -- Grnrchst ( talk) 12:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
    Ok. I also thought ALT2 was interesting, but I couldn't find an alternative source for this to confirm this information; do you have one? And I would propose to change it to remove the modern 'Spanish' and the article 'the' because there were more leaders into: – Editør ( talk) 12:59, 23 June 2024‎ (UTC)
    ALT5: ... that 16th-century chroniclers thought María Pacheco, a leader of the Revolt of the Comuneros, was a witch?
    Good point about dropping the apocryphal use of "Spanish", I think ALT5 looks good as well. Here's the direct quote from Fleming 2018, p. 270:

    Her actions drew the ire of contemporary chroniclers, who depict her as a tyrannical virago. Having earlier commented that she dominated her marriage as the “husband of her husband,” Martire links her protagonism to madness, and even to demonic possession; Santa Cruz relates it to witchcraft. Like Juana’s moriscas in earlier days, Pacheco’s were looked upon askance. Fray Guevara describes Pacheco working with a “mad” slave or “great witch,” who stoked her ambitions.

    -- Grnrchst ( talk) 13:19, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
    pass ALT5. – Editør ( talk) 13:21, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

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