The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 06:02, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
... that on this day in 1964, Jack Roxburgh introduced legislation to have to
ice hockey(pictured) declared Canada's national game?[1]
ALT1: ... that Canadian farmer Jack Roxburgh was a cofounder of the
Ontario Minor Hockey Association and served as president of the
Canadian Amateur Hockey Association? Source: History of the Ontario Minor Hockey Association: 75th Anniversary season. Richmond Hill, Ontario: Ontario Minor Hockey Association. 2010. page 8.
Comment: ALT0 is a special occasion request for October 28.
5x expanded by
Flibirigit (
talk). Self-nominated at 01:43, 15 October 2019 (UTC).
Substantial article on plenty of excellent sources, offline souces accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The hook: I stumbled over "to ice hockey" because it reads as if to ice hockey was mandatory by law (until you read further). I also think that the "pictured"-clause should not come after ice hockey, because there will be better pic, but at the end, saying "pictured in Canada". Finally: with such a rich life, could you add something about turkey breader and/or member of parliament? Striking ALT1, because even the present hook is more interesting to a general reader. The article: I did some copy-editing, please check and revert what you don't like. Go for
GA after this! Some images look a bit far-fetched, like the parliament, which is also awkwardly positioned. I'd drop it, but you decide. The image: it's licensed but not the greatest. Too bad we don't have one of him. The article deserves an image, just by quality, thank you! --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 06:45, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
I have submitted a newer hook below, that is hopefully more attractive.
Flibirigit (
talk) 14:44, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that when Jack Roxburgh debunked the myth of
lacrosse as Canada's national game, he introduced legislation on this day in 1964 to have to
ice hockey(example pictured) declared the national game instead?
I'm not sure, because I don't even know what lacrosse is, nor do I care. I find turkey and parliament much more appealing than lacrosse. ALT2 has the same problems ("to ice hockey", then pictured, and not a pic of ice hockey in general, but Canada) as the original. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 14:52, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
ALT2a: ... that Jack Roxburgh introduced legislation on this day in 1964 to make
ice hockey(example pictured) Canada's national game after disproving the myth that
lacrosse held that distinction?
I think this flows better, but not sure if the "century-old" part would pass since the source says the myth "may" have started in 1869.
MB 15:18, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
That flows better, and if you insist I approve it, but see above about the little interest of non-Canadians in lacrosse. I removed the centuries, because I believe a plain "myth" sounds even older than just a few centuries old ;) --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 15:27, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
ALT2a is fine by me.
Flibirigit (
talk) 15:36, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
as you wish. If the image is taken, prep builder, please think about where to put (pictured). We have almost 2 weeks, - I'll watch. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 15:41, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Ideally, a hook has only one link: to the subject. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 16:11, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi, coming to the discussion late. There doesn't seem to be any need for the image in ALT2a. It's not a great image at thumbnail size, either.
Yoninah (
talk) 19:13, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 06:02, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
... that on this day in 1964, Jack Roxburgh introduced legislation to have to
ice hockey(pictured) declared Canada's national game?[1]
ALT1: ... that Canadian farmer Jack Roxburgh was a cofounder of the
Ontario Minor Hockey Association and served as president of the
Canadian Amateur Hockey Association? Source: History of the Ontario Minor Hockey Association: 75th Anniversary season. Richmond Hill, Ontario: Ontario Minor Hockey Association. 2010. page 8.
Comment: ALT0 is a special occasion request for October 28.
5x expanded by
Flibirigit (
talk). Self-nominated at 01:43, 15 October 2019 (UTC).
Substantial article on plenty of excellent sources, offline souces accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The hook: I stumbled over "to ice hockey" because it reads as if to ice hockey was mandatory by law (until you read further). I also think that the "pictured"-clause should not come after ice hockey, because there will be better pic, but at the end, saying "pictured in Canada". Finally: with such a rich life, could you add something about turkey breader and/or member of parliament? Striking ALT1, because even the present hook is more interesting to a general reader. The article: I did some copy-editing, please check and revert what you don't like. Go for
GA after this! Some images look a bit far-fetched, like the parliament, which is also awkwardly positioned. I'd drop it, but you decide. The image: it's licensed but not the greatest. Too bad we don't have one of him. The article deserves an image, just by quality, thank you! --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 06:45, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
I have submitted a newer hook below, that is hopefully more attractive.
Flibirigit (
talk) 14:44, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that when Jack Roxburgh debunked the myth of
lacrosse as Canada's national game, he introduced legislation on this day in 1964 to have to
ice hockey(example pictured) declared the national game instead?
I'm not sure, because I don't even know what lacrosse is, nor do I care. I find turkey and parliament much more appealing than lacrosse. ALT2 has the same problems ("to ice hockey", then pictured, and not a pic of ice hockey in general, but Canada) as the original. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 14:52, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
ALT2a: ... that Jack Roxburgh introduced legislation on this day in 1964 to make
ice hockey(example pictured) Canada's national game after disproving the myth that
lacrosse held that distinction?
I think this flows better, but not sure if the "century-old" part would pass since the source says the myth "may" have started in 1869.
MB 15:18, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
That flows better, and if you insist I approve it, but see above about the little interest of non-Canadians in lacrosse. I removed the centuries, because I believe a plain "myth" sounds even older than just a few centuries old ;) --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 15:27, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
ALT2a is fine by me.
Flibirigit (
talk) 15:36, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
as you wish. If the image is taken, prep builder, please think about where to put (pictured). We have almost 2 weeks, - I'll watch. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 15:41, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Ideally, a hook has only one link: to the subject. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk) 16:11, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi, coming to the discussion late. There doesn't seem to be any need for the image in ALT2a. It's not a great image at thumbnail size, either.
Yoninah (
talk) 19:13, 15 October 2019 (UTC)