The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The result was: promoted by Allen3talk 17:57, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
... that Swedish mathematicians
Lars Hörmander(pictured) and Hans Rådström isometrically embedded the nonempty, compact convex subsets of a vector space as a convex cone in a normed space?
ALT1: ... that mathematician Hans Rådström, known for his work on
convex sets, edited the Swedish translation of The Scientific American Book of Mathematical Puzzles and Diversions by
Martin Gardner?
ALT1b: ... when
Martin Gardner'sThe Scientific American Book of Mathematical Puzzles and Diversions was translated into Swedish, it was edited by Hans Rådström?
Proposed by K.W. 01:14, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed:
Mikhail Kadets (n.b.) by WP-math colleague
User:Sodin. The Ukrainian version of Banach's epoch-making book is the source for a key result used in the Gurary^2 renorming of uniformly convex spaces, which is reported in Joe Diestel's Sequences and Series. Ostrovskii may well be the world's greatest successor of V. I. Gurariy and Kadet's beautiful tradition, so it's easy to AGF great to find his website hosting his article in the PAN premier journal.
Comment: Nomination has 196 characters.
User:Sodin has the signature "Sasha".
Age, length OK. The references, however, need to be formatted properly, citing title, author, publisher, etc. (see
WP:Citation templates). I formatted the first four references, but am unable to continue because I don't read
Swedish. I found the article to be extremely technical, and wonder if someone could plug in some plain English, or explanations of terms, to make this read better. Regarding the hook, the first hook is unintelligible and the second one is understandable but not so interesting to a wider audience. Perhaps you could think of something catchy?
Yoninah (
talk) 21:27, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
references: should be better now (I hope).
technicality: well, this is an article about a mathematician, we tried to explain his professional achievements (in some detail): this is what he is known for. The other sections should be accessible to a general audience (or am I too optimistic?)
The article looks much better now, thanks. Now to the hook. I like the second one best, but I have a question: Here you're calling the book The Scientific American Book of Puzzles and Games, while in the article you're calling it The Scientific American Book of Mathematical Puzzles and Diversions. Which is it? Also, is
Martin Gardner important? Otherwise I would leave him out. Thanks,
Yoninah (
talk) 22:13, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
thanks for editing and spotting the difference (both are correct, one is the title of the first English edition, and the other one is the title of the second one, I have fixed the hook now). Martin Gardner is well-known outside of mathematics (at least, much better-known that Radstrom), in particular for his books on recreational math (but also for many other things described in the article about him). Do you have any suggestions how to make this more hooky?
Sasha (
talk) 23:30, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Article seems to be OK at this point. AGF on some aspects of the hook sourcing (includes offline content and Swedish content, but what I can see checks out OK). The Martin Gardner connection is indeed "interesting." I suggest the following variation on the hook:
ALT2: ... that, in addition to his work on
convex sets, mathematician Hans Rådström edited the Swedish translation of
Martin Gardner's Scientific American Book of Mathematical Puzzles and Diversions? --
Orlady (
talk) 16:00, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
this is better indeed, thanks!
Sasha (
talk) 16:16, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Allen3talk 17:57, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
... that Swedish mathematicians
Lars Hörmander(pictured) and Hans Rådström isometrically embedded the nonempty, compact convex subsets of a vector space as a convex cone in a normed space?
ALT1: ... that mathematician Hans Rådström, known for his work on
convex sets, edited the Swedish translation of The Scientific American Book of Mathematical Puzzles and Diversions by
Martin Gardner?
ALT1b: ... when
Martin Gardner'sThe Scientific American Book of Mathematical Puzzles and Diversions was translated into Swedish, it was edited by Hans Rådström?
Proposed by K.W. 01:14, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed:
Mikhail Kadets (n.b.) by WP-math colleague
User:Sodin. The Ukrainian version of Banach's epoch-making book is the source for a key result used in the Gurary^2 renorming of uniformly convex spaces, which is reported in Joe Diestel's Sequences and Series. Ostrovskii may well be the world's greatest successor of V. I. Gurariy and Kadet's beautiful tradition, so it's easy to AGF great to find his website hosting his article in the PAN premier journal.
Comment: Nomination has 196 characters.
User:Sodin has the signature "Sasha".
Age, length OK. The references, however, need to be formatted properly, citing title, author, publisher, etc. (see
WP:Citation templates). I formatted the first four references, but am unable to continue because I don't read
Swedish. I found the article to be extremely technical, and wonder if someone could plug in some plain English, or explanations of terms, to make this read better. Regarding the hook, the first hook is unintelligible and the second one is understandable but not so interesting to a wider audience. Perhaps you could think of something catchy?
Yoninah (
talk) 21:27, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
references: should be better now (I hope).
technicality: well, this is an article about a mathematician, we tried to explain his professional achievements (in some detail): this is what he is known for. The other sections should be accessible to a general audience (or am I too optimistic?)
The article looks much better now, thanks. Now to the hook. I like the second one best, but I have a question: Here you're calling the book The Scientific American Book of Puzzles and Games, while in the article you're calling it The Scientific American Book of Mathematical Puzzles and Diversions. Which is it? Also, is
Martin Gardner important? Otherwise I would leave him out. Thanks,
Yoninah (
talk) 22:13, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
thanks for editing and spotting the difference (both are correct, one is the title of the first English edition, and the other one is the title of the second one, I have fixed the hook now). Martin Gardner is well-known outside of mathematics (at least, much better-known that Radstrom), in particular for his books on recreational math (but also for many other things described in the article about him). Do you have any suggestions how to make this more hooky?
Sasha (
talk) 23:30, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Article seems to be OK at this point. AGF on some aspects of the hook sourcing (includes offline content and Swedish content, but what I can see checks out OK). The Martin Gardner connection is indeed "interesting." I suggest the following variation on the hook:
ALT2: ... that, in addition to his work on
convex sets, mathematician Hans Rådström edited the Swedish translation of
Martin Gardner's Scientific American Book of Mathematical Puzzles and Diversions? --
Orlady (
talk) 16:00, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
this is better indeed, thanks!
Sasha (
talk) 16:16, 30 December 2011 (UTC)