The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 06:19, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Created by
Royroydeb (
talk). Self-nominated at 14:41, 19 April 2019 (UTC).
Nice decent article but we need a better source for the claim. Will indulge in some copy-editing.
∯WBGconverse 12:10, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Expanded the article by 2X. Struck out hook; for being inaccurate. Once again, I cannot over-emphasize the need to abide by
WP:HISTRS.To quote a reliable source:-In contrast, by 1951 India – all princely states included – was participating in the first nationwide general elections on the principles of ‘one person, one vote’ and representative government, while in Pakistan only Khairpur and Bahawalpur even achieved universal adult franchise, and no state realised full responsible government. The issue of pin-pointing the state that first achieved universal-suffrage -- Bahawalpur (wherein a very similar law was passed days before Khairpur's) or Khairpur or the entire country of India (which has decided on suffrage, long back and preparations of voters list et al were in swing for years) is not easy.
∯WBGconverse 15:03, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
@
Winged Blades of Godric: The claim in the hook was cited from The Friday Times, a Pakistani newspaper. Also in this
revision, you have added a fact and added citation needed to it!
RRD (
talk) 12:44, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
A Pakistani source has all the reasons to claim exaggerated stuff. Similar for Indian sources; if this was an India-based article.
My source was a peer-reviewed scholarly publication and I see at-least one leading expert in the area, as a co-author.
As to cn template; I need to get the precise bibliographic data of the source, once I go for my next visit to
National Library of India :-( The soft-copy that I can access through my subscriptions has a lack of it.
∯WBGconverse 13:32, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
ALT1:... that George Ali Murad Khan, the erstwhile ruler of
Khairpur state of Pakistan initially wanted to join India?RRD (
talk) 02:52, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
I have removed my addition, sourcing ain't strong. The hook is thus, ineligible.
∯WBGconverse 09:53, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
New reviewer needed; at this point, Winged Blades of Godric has contributed too much to the article to be eligible to review here.
BlueMoonset (
talk) 03:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Looking at this again, I think ALT1 could be rephased into something like:
The main issue that it now appears that the information is no longer in the article, which would make ALT1/ALT1a unsuitable. If that is the case, I'm proposing an alternative below:
ALT2 ... that George Ali Murad Khan, who was the ruler of the
princely state of
Khairpur in Pakistan, survived accidentally being shot by his father when he was nine months old?
Striking ALT1 and ALT1a as the hook fact is no longer in the article.
Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew 07:27, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
WBG has been unable to respond thus far though the nominator is fine with ALT2; new reviewer needed to check the hook's suitability.
Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew 22:56, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
ALT2 is fine from me. Well done! Apologies for delay:-(
∯WBGconverse 11:21, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
:REVIEW COMPLETED - The following review was completed by
Thats Just Great
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 06:19, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Created by
Royroydeb (
talk). Self-nominated at 14:41, 19 April 2019 (UTC).
Nice decent article but we need a better source for the claim. Will indulge in some copy-editing.
∯WBGconverse 12:10, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Expanded the article by 2X. Struck out hook; for being inaccurate. Once again, I cannot over-emphasize the need to abide by
WP:HISTRS.To quote a reliable source:-In contrast, by 1951 India – all princely states included – was participating in the first nationwide general elections on the principles of ‘one person, one vote’ and representative government, while in Pakistan only Khairpur and Bahawalpur even achieved universal adult franchise, and no state realised full responsible government. The issue of pin-pointing the state that first achieved universal-suffrage -- Bahawalpur (wherein a very similar law was passed days before Khairpur's) or Khairpur or the entire country of India (which has decided on suffrage, long back and preparations of voters list et al were in swing for years) is not easy.
∯WBGconverse 15:03, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
@
Winged Blades of Godric: The claim in the hook was cited from The Friday Times, a Pakistani newspaper. Also in this
revision, you have added a fact and added citation needed to it!
RRD (
talk) 12:44, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
A Pakistani source has all the reasons to claim exaggerated stuff. Similar for Indian sources; if this was an India-based article.
My source was a peer-reviewed scholarly publication and I see at-least one leading expert in the area, as a co-author.
As to cn template; I need to get the precise bibliographic data of the source, once I go for my next visit to
National Library of India :-( The soft-copy that I can access through my subscriptions has a lack of it.
∯WBGconverse 13:32, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
ALT1:... that George Ali Murad Khan, the erstwhile ruler of
Khairpur state of Pakistan initially wanted to join India?RRD (
talk) 02:52, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
I have removed my addition, sourcing ain't strong. The hook is thus, ineligible.
∯WBGconverse 09:53, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
New reviewer needed; at this point, Winged Blades of Godric has contributed too much to the article to be eligible to review here.
BlueMoonset (
talk) 03:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Looking at this again, I think ALT1 could be rephased into something like:
The main issue that it now appears that the information is no longer in the article, which would make ALT1/ALT1a unsuitable. If that is the case, I'm proposing an alternative below:
ALT2 ... that George Ali Murad Khan, who was the ruler of the
princely state of
Khairpur in Pakistan, survived accidentally being shot by his father when he was nine months old?
Striking ALT1 and ALT1a as the hook fact is no longer in the article.
Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew 07:27, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
WBG has been unable to respond thus far though the nominator is fine with ALT2; new reviewer needed to check the hook's suitability.
Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew 22:56, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
ALT2 is fine from me. Well done! Apologies for delay:-(
∯WBGconverse 11:21, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
:REVIEW COMPLETED - The following review was completed by
Thats Just Great