The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by
BlueMoonset (
talk) 03:28, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Created/expanded by
Sahara4u (
talk). Self nom at 04:45, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Comment In
First Families of Pakistan#Jinnah_family, the first sentence is "Jinnah family is a political family in South Asia and is the founder family of Pakistan", referenced to a
Balochistan Times article. However, that article does not use the phrase "founder family". I
searched for other uses of the term "founder family", but seem to be getting hits for "founder's family" rather than "founder family". The latter phrase implies that it was Jinnah's family who founded the country, and I don't think that terminology should be used unless reliably sourced. Apart from that, the hook takes the form of "... that X is Y?", which is discouraged at
Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Reviewing_guide#Review_the_hook. (I have done none of the other DYK checks, so this is not a full review). --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 06:22, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Needs full review.
BlueMoonset (
talk) 03:31, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
Roughly 2,000 chars of readable prose, with a mile-long list of buleted, unlinked names. However, I'm not here to rewrite it from scratch. The
wp:lede is completely unrelated to First Families of Pakistan (which is the subject of this article). There's not a word of introduction to the actual list of families copy-pasted (word for word) from older articles such as
Jinnah family (started April 11, 2012 by someone else). This article was created on September 9, 2012 via copy-paste as soon as Roscelese soft deleted (i.e. redirected) the
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maryam Nawaz Sharif to
Maryam Nawaz with the edit summary: "amazing how parallel articles have existed so long! merge...". I feel I don't really have a choice but to reject it. The article isn't new by the rules of DYK. Besides, it is written against the basics of
WP:MOS. Sorry BrownHairedGirl for the time you spent working on your alt.
Poeticbenttalk 03:45, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by
BlueMoonset (
talk) 03:28, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Created/expanded by
Sahara4u (
talk). Self nom at 04:45, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Comment In
First Families of Pakistan#Jinnah_family, the first sentence is "Jinnah family is a political family in South Asia and is the founder family of Pakistan", referenced to a
Balochistan Times article. However, that article does not use the phrase "founder family". I
searched for other uses of the term "founder family", but seem to be getting hits for "founder's family" rather than "founder family". The latter phrase implies that it was Jinnah's family who founded the country, and I don't think that terminology should be used unless reliably sourced. Apart from that, the hook takes the form of "... that X is Y?", which is discouraged at
Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Reviewing_guide#Review_the_hook. (I have done none of the other DYK checks, so this is not a full review). --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 06:22, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Needs full review.
BlueMoonset (
talk) 03:31, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
Roughly 2,000 chars of readable prose, with a mile-long list of buleted, unlinked names. However, I'm not here to rewrite it from scratch. The
wp:lede is completely unrelated to First Families of Pakistan (which is the subject of this article). There's not a word of introduction to the actual list of families copy-pasted (word for word) from older articles such as
Jinnah family (started April 11, 2012 by someone else). This article was created on September 9, 2012 via copy-paste as soon as Roscelese soft deleted (i.e. redirected) the
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maryam Nawaz Sharif to
Maryam Nawaz with the edit summary: "amazing how parallel articles have existed so long! merge...". I feel I don't really have a choice but to reject it. The article isn't new by the rules of DYK. Besides, it is written against the basics of
WP:MOS. Sorry BrownHairedGirl for the time you spent working on your alt.
Poeticbenttalk 03:45, 8 October 2012 (UTC)