The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 06:32, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Confusion is a minor problem here compared to the desperate need to inject something interesting into a math hook (speaking as a degree-holder in applied math, before you say anything).
EEng (
talk) 23:21, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Fair enough :) --
Mark viking (
talk) 00:02, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Just in case there's some hidden romance to this theorem that can be injected, I'm paging DYK's designated math hookster
David Eppstein. David, is there a love triangle we can work in here?
EEng (
talk) 01:32, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Wow, this is way more technical than I usually consider appropriate for DYK in my own nominations. But anyway, how about
At least you've injected some inspiration. If the others want this hook, I'll augment the article per the source.
EEng (
talk) 02:29, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Please augment the article anyhow. I don't know the historical order of events myself, but clearly, if von Neumann proved the theorem for closed matrix groups, it deserves to be in the article. The proof in the article is specialized to matrix groups, though the method generalizes to arbitrary groups. Come to think of it, I'm not sure Cartan proved the theorem in 1930. The cited publication is from 1930.
YohanN7 (
talk) 05:10, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Happy to do it, but it might be tmw.
EEng (
talk) 12:08, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Your alacrity is disgusting. I'll bet in school you cleaned the erasers. 19:39, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you David. But be aware of tmw. It might cause fatigue, and fatigue is not to be messed around with lightheartedly
I threw out an info-box and put a von Neumann picture in.
YohanN7 (
talk) 21:16, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
I think I can review this since my hook wasn't used. It's math, so NPOV, copyv/paraphr are easy passes. New enough and long enough, cites fine and hook cited as required.
EEng (
talk) 19:04, 30 July 2014 (UTC) P.S. I'm not applying the cite-per-paragraph thing here because that's just too ridiculous for a math proof.
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 06:32, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Confusion is a minor problem here compared to the desperate need to inject something interesting into a math hook (speaking as a degree-holder in applied math, before you say anything).
EEng (
talk) 23:21, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Fair enough :) --
Mark viking (
talk) 00:02, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Just in case there's some hidden romance to this theorem that can be injected, I'm paging DYK's designated math hookster
David Eppstein. David, is there a love triangle we can work in here?
EEng (
talk) 01:32, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Wow, this is way more technical than I usually consider appropriate for DYK in my own nominations. But anyway, how about
At least you've injected some inspiration. If the others want this hook, I'll augment the article per the source.
EEng (
talk) 02:29, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Please augment the article anyhow. I don't know the historical order of events myself, but clearly, if von Neumann proved the theorem for closed matrix groups, it deserves to be in the article. The proof in the article is specialized to matrix groups, though the method generalizes to arbitrary groups. Come to think of it, I'm not sure Cartan proved the theorem in 1930. The cited publication is from 1930.
YohanN7 (
talk) 05:10, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Happy to do it, but it might be tmw.
EEng (
talk) 12:08, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Your alacrity is disgusting. I'll bet in school you cleaned the erasers. 19:39, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you David. But be aware of tmw. It might cause fatigue, and fatigue is not to be messed around with lightheartedly
I threw out an info-box and put a von Neumann picture in.
YohanN7 (
talk) 21:16, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
I think I can review this since my hook wasn't used. It's math, so NPOV, copyv/paraphr are easy passes. New enough and long enough, cites fine and hook cited as required.
EEng (
talk) 19:04, 30 July 2014 (UTC) P.S. I'm not applying the cite-per-paragraph thing here because that's just too ridiculous for a math proof.