The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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the article's talk page or
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The result was: promoted by
SL93 (
talk) 20:00, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
... that the documentary Babi Yar. Context shows long-unseen footage of buildings in central
Kyiv being bombed by the Soviets, by remote control, after the Nazi occupation began? Source:
https://europeanfilmawards.eu/en_EN/film/babi-yar-context.19560 "Some of the footage I work with has been buried in the archives for decades – nobody has ever seen it. Not even historians, specialising in the Holocaust in the USSR. One such episode is the explosions of Kreschatik in September 1941. Kiev’s central street was mined with remote controlled explosives by the NKVD (Soviet secret service) before the Red army had retreated from Kiev. The detonations of the explosives were carried out a few days after the Germans took the city."
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Coretheapple: Interesting article, but "bombed by remote control" suggests remotely controlled aircraft to me. We do have an article on
Khreshchatyk that could be linked. Do you think you can make the hook more precise? —
Kusma (
talk) 10:30, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Comment I agree that the word bombed, though technically correct, may be misleading. But it looks good to me, otherwise. How about:
ALT1 ... that the documentary Babi Yar. Context shows long-unseen footage of buildings in central
Kyiv being destroyed by remotely detonated mines after the Nazi occupation began?
ALT1 is largely the same hook fact but without the potential aircraft implication.
Radzy0 (
talk) 03:50, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Slightly shorter and including the actors:
ALT2 ... that the documentary Babi Yar. Context shows footage of the destruction of buildings in Nazi-occupied
Kyiv by remotely detonated Soviet mines?
Can probably still be improved. —
Kusma (
talk) 10:05, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
ALT3 ... that the documentary Babi Yar. Context shows rare footage of buildings being destroyed by retreating Soviet forces in
the main street of Nazi-occupied
Kyiv?
New enough, long enough, policy compliant, QPQ done. Earwig only picks up attributed quotes that are fine in the context. ALT1 and ALT3 are interesting and cited, I am happy to approve them both. (Can't approve ALT2 as I suggested it, and I do not approve ALT0 as unintentionally misleading). —
Kusma (
talk) 13:37, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
PS I suggest not to include the image, as it isn't too connected to the hook. —
Kusma (
talk) 13:39, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
SL93 (
talk) 20:00, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
... that the documentary Babi Yar. Context shows long-unseen footage of buildings in central
Kyiv being bombed by the Soviets, by remote control, after the Nazi occupation began? Source:
https://europeanfilmawards.eu/en_EN/film/babi-yar-context.19560 "Some of the footage I work with has been buried in the archives for decades – nobody has ever seen it. Not even historians, specialising in the Holocaust in the USSR. One such episode is the explosions of Kreschatik in September 1941. Kiev’s central street was mined with remote controlled explosives by the NKVD (Soviet secret service) before the Red army had retreated from Kiev. The detonations of the explosives were carried out a few days after the Germans took the city."
@
Coretheapple: Interesting article, but "bombed by remote control" suggests remotely controlled aircraft to me. We do have an article on
Khreshchatyk that could be linked. Do you think you can make the hook more precise? —
Kusma (
talk) 10:30, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Comment I agree that the word bombed, though technically correct, may be misleading. But it looks good to me, otherwise. How about:
ALT1 ... that the documentary Babi Yar. Context shows long-unseen footage of buildings in central
Kyiv being destroyed by remotely detonated mines after the Nazi occupation began?
ALT1 is largely the same hook fact but without the potential aircraft implication.
Radzy0 (
talk) 03:50, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Slightly shorter and including the actors:
ALT2 ... that the documentary Babi Yar. Context shows footage of the destruction of buildings in Nazi-occupied
Kyiv by remotely detonated Soviet mines?
Can probably still be improved. —
Kusma (
talk) 10:05, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
ALT3 ... that the documentary Babi Yar. Context shows rare footage of buildings being destroyed by retreating Soviet forces in
the main street of Nazi-occupied
Kyiv?
New enough, long enough, policy compliant, QPQ done. Earwig only picks up attributed quotes that are fine in the context. ALT1 and ALT3 are interesting and cited, I am happy to approve them both. (Can't approve ALT2 as I suggested it, and I do not approve ALT0 as unintentionally misleading). —
Kusma (
talk) 13:37, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
PS I suggest not to include the image, as it isn't too connected to the hook. —
Kusma (
talk) 13:39, 1 June 2022 (UTC)