The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 06:14, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
Comment: Article created in 2012, and
elevated to GA-class within the past week. Having
passed a GA Review recently the article should meet the rules for DYK. Image is of a painting created for
National Guard Bureau, and is in the public domain. I have already met QPQ requirements with
this review.
Improved to Good Article status by
RightCowLeftCoast (
talk). Self-nominated at 07:17, 17 May 2019 (UTC).
Rereading I am unsure if it is intended that the image be included in the nom; it has not been referenced in any of the hooks.
RightCowLeftCoast, could you clarify? Thanks.
@
Gog the Mild: the image is relevant to the subject of the article, but not significantly
relevant to the hook, or ALTs 1-3. A more relevant hook to the image would be like
I consider ALT2 to be the "hookiest". How would you feel about:
@
Gog the Mild: that's fine. Is the coat of arms image or the National Guard painting image to be utilized?--
RightCowLeftCoast (
Moo) 15:20, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
ALT5: ... that the first American tanks to ever engage in combat with enemy tanks were part of the 194th Tank Battalion(emblem pictured) in the
Philippines?
All covered, good to go. Nothing wrong with the other ALTs, but I think that ALT5 would work best with a general audience. I have removed the commas from it. If non-image hook is preferred, see ALT2.
Gog the Mild (
talk) 15:53, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I came by to promote this, but the first part of the hook seems to be dangling without any explanation as to why American tanks are engaging with enemy tanks. I think the problem is that you are piping the name of the battle to "Philippines", which is unclear to those of us who aren't familiar with that battle. Should we write:
ALT5a: ... that in the
Philippines Campaign of 1941–1942, the first American tanks to engage in combat with enemy tanks were part of the 194th Tank Battalion(emblem pictured)? Yoninah (
talk) 20:37, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
IMO as the original assessor, no. The point of the hook is that this was the first time that US tanks had fought other tanks ever, anywhere. This seemed clear to me, but if it is not to others then certainly it needs changing l. But ALT5a reads, to me, as if this were merely the first tank v tank clash of the Philippines campaign.
Gog the Mild (
talk) 21:25, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
Oh, now I get it. Adding "ever" to the hooks. Restoring your tick.
Yoninah (
talk) 21:37, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 06:14, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
Comment: Article created in 2012, and
elevated to GA-class within the past week. Having
passed a GA Review recently the article should meet the rules for DYK. Image is of a painting created for
National Guard Bureau, and is in the public domain. I have already met QPQ requirements with
this review.
Improved to Good Article status by
RightCowLeftCoast (
talk). Self-nominated at 07:17, 17 May 2019 (UTC).
Rereading I am unsure if it is intended that the image be included in the nom; it has not been referenced in any of the hooks.
RightCowLeftCoast, could you clarify? Thanks.
@
Gog the Mild: the image is relevant to the subject of the article, but not significantly
relevant to the hook, or ALTs 1-3. A more relevant hook to the image would be like
I consider ALT2 to be the "hookiest". How would you feel about:
@
Gog the Mild: that's fine. Is the coat of arms image or the National Guard painting image to be utilized?--
RightCowLeftCoast (
Moo) 15:20, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
ALT5: ... that the first American tanks to ever engage in combat with enemy tanks were part of the 194th Tank Battalion(emblem pictured) in the
Philippines?
All covered, good to go. Nothing wrong with the other ALTs, but I think that ALT5 would work best with a general audience. I have removed the commas from it. If non-image hook is preferred, see ALT2.
Gog the Mild (
talk) 15:53, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I came by to promote this, but the first part of the hook seems to be dangling without any explanation as to why American tanks are engaging with enemy tanks. I think the problem is that you are piping the name of the battle to "Philippines", which is unclear to those of us who aren't familiar with that battle. Should we write:
ALT5a: ... that in the
Philippines Campaign of 1941–1942, the first American tanks to engage in combat with enemy tanks were part of the 194th Tank Battalion(emblem pictured)? Yoninah (
talk) 20:37, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
IMO as the original assessor, no. The point of the hook is that this was the first time that US tanks had fought other tanks ever, anywhere. This seemed clear to me, but if it is not to others then certainly it needs changing l. But ALT5a reads, to me, as if this were merely the first tank v tank clash of the Philippines campaign.
Gog the Mild (
talk) 21:25, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
Oh, now I get it. Adding "ever" to the hooks. Restoring your tick.
Yoninah (
talk) 21:37, 12 June 2019 (UTC)