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the previous article of Zubair ibn al-Awam was lost, i couldn't find it, this is a temporary article i will inshallah improve it. Mohammad Adil ( talk) This article should be completely rewritten according to the standards of Wikipedia. Waheed Ahmed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.199.165.139 ( talk) 01:54, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
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This article need more grammar structure improvements to be promoted for higher quality Ahendra ( talk) 20:07, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
@ Ahendra & other editors who might read this: the correct spelling for the name of this person is "ibn al-Awwam" (with a shadda on the wāw, الزُّبَيْرُ بن العَوَّام): see for example here, or here.
Instead of "Zubayr", one can also often find the more correct "al-Zubayr" (e.g., in the Encyclopedia of Islam entry I linked), but just "Zubayr" (like Hasan for al-Hasan or Husayn for al-Husayn) is certainly also common enough. I won't voice a definite opinion on that right now, but "ibn al-Awam" should obviously be corrected to "ibn al-Awwam".
However, since Zubayr ibn al-Awwam already exists as a redirect, I cannot move the page to that title myself. I would request a move at WP:RM/TR, but since this process is only for uncontroversial moves, I would like to know if there is any objection to moving this page to Zubayr ibn al-Awwam? ☿ Apaugasma ( talk ☉) 13:32, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
The article is way too long. Half of the article is about the legacy of Zubayr. I think that some portions can be removed from here and pasted in the Zubayrids article. Mohhsiin 20:40 17 December 2021 (UTC)
There's a problem of date here, as his father is said to have died yaom al ablaa, third year of the Fijar Wars. Reférence is Ibn Qutayba, in "al-Ma'ārif", given in his father's page. This seems fit with story that his mother Safya bint 'Abd al-Muttalib educated him firmly. But not with a birth date in 593, especially if he is the first of three children. Does someone has a clue here, or can point to early sources or some biography so that contradictory advices could be given ? RigOLuche ( talk) 18:06, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
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the previous article of Zubair ibn al-Awam was lost, i couldn't find it, this is a temporary article i will inshallah improve it. Mohammad Adil ( talk) This article should be completely rewritten according to the standards of Wikipedia. Waheed Ahmed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.199.165.139 ( talk) 01:54, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
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This article need more grammar structure improvements to be promoted for higher quality Ahendra ( talk) 20:07, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
@ Ahendra & other editors who might read this: the correct spelling for the name of this person is "ibn al-Awwam" (with a shadda on the wāw, الزُّبَيْرُ بن العَوَّام): see for example here, or here.
Instead of "Zubayr", one can also often find the more correct "al-Zubayr" (e.g., in the Encyclopedia of Islam entry I linked), but just "Zubayr" (like Hasan for al-Hasan or Husayn for al-Husayn) is certainly also common enough. I won't voice a definite opinion on that right now, but "ibn al-Awam" should obviously be corrected to "ibn al-Awwam".
However, since Zubayr ibn al-Awwam already exists as a redirect, I cannot move the page to that title myself. I would request a move at WP:RM/TR, but since this process is only for uncontroversial moves, I would like to know if there is any objection to moving this page to Zubayr ibn al-Awwam? ☿ Apaugasma ( talk ☉) 13:32, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
The article is way too long. Half of the article is about the legacy of Zubayr. I think that some portions can be removed from here and pasted in the Zubayrids article. Mohhsiin 20:40 17 December 2021 (UTC)
There's a problem of date here, as his father is said to have died yaom al ablaa, third year of the Fijar Wars. Reférence is Ibn Qutayba, in "al-Ma'ārif", given in his father's page. This seems fit with story that his mother Safya bint 'Abd al-Muttalib educated him firmly. But not with a birth date in 593, especially if he is the first of three children. Does someone has a clue here, or can point to early sources or some biography so that contradictory advices could be given ? RigOLuche ( talk) 18:06, 17 January 2023 (UTC)