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In the supplementals in this study we can see that they had dark brown and black hair (almost 100% of them), brown eyes (100%) and half had intermediate skin and the other half intermediate to dark skin and dark skin
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982221005352
I suggest this is added in the physical appearance section, it's the most up to date study about examining how yamnaya individuals looked (how their genes expressed) I could find 62.74.110.28 ( talk) 22:03, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Who's running that? And, is it a good enough source for the average height of Yamnaya? No proper studies are given for the recently added claim, can't we find something better? Tewdar 10:23, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Won't have time to go through this one in any detail for a while, but here is a fascinating new article especially as to dating Yamnaya horseback riding. Cheers, all. Dumuzid ( talk) 19:48, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
The top section of the article (as of date of posting) contains the following paragraph:
There is now a rough scholarly consensus that the common ancestor of all Indo-European languages, with the possible exception of Anatolian, originated on the Pontic-Caspian steppe, and this language has been associated with the people of the Yamnaya culture.[13] Additionally, the Pontic-Caspian steppe is currently seen as the most likely candidate for the original homeland (German, Urheimat) of the Proto-Indo-European language, including the ancestor of the Anatolian branch.
To me, it seems like the second sentence reiterates the points of the first on, while also contradicting it by stating that no, the general consensus does not in fact exclude the Anatolian branch in this conjectured history of the origin of the Indo-European family. It's definitely possible that there are nuances here that are lost on me (and presumably others too) without the elaboration undoubtedly provided further on in the article. If that's the case, this paragraph should be rewritten to more clearly state the intended message. Otherwise, the second sentence should be incorporated into the first to avoid confusing people. In either case, this is most likely not the only occurrence of mismatched sentences in the article, so I think this article could probably benefit from a proof-read by someone more knowledgeable and specialized in this subject matter. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) -- 110521sgl ( talk) 09:19, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
It is a good custom in all other culture articles to give Genetics a paragraph of its own, instead of, as here (recently?), including it in the introduction, for which the topic is much too extensive. HJJHolm ( talk) 10:14, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
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In the supplementals in this study we can see that they had dark brown and black hair (almost 100% of them), brown eyes (100%) and half had intermediate skin and the other half intermediate to dark skin and dark skin
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982221005352
I suggest this is added in the physical appearance section, it's the most up to date study about examining how yamnaya individuals looked (how their genes expressed) I could find 62.74.110.28 ( talk) 22:03, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Who's running that? And, is it a good enough source for the average height of Yamnaya? No proper studies are given for the recently added claim, can't we find something better? Tewdar 10:23, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Won't have time to go through this one in any detail for a while, but here is a fascinating new article especially as to dating Yamnaya horseback riding. Cheers, all. Dumuzid ( talk) 19:48, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
The top section of the article (as of date of posting) contains the following paragraph:
There is now a rough scholarly consensus that the common ancestor of all Indo-European languages, with the possible exception of Anatolian, originated on the Pontic-Caspian steppe, and this language has been associated with the people of the Yamnaya culture.[13] Additionally, the Pontic-Caspian steppe is currently seen as the most likely candidate for the original homeland (German, Urheimat) of the Proto-Indo-European language, including the ancestor of the Anatolian branch.
To me, it seems like the second sentence reiterates the points of the first on, while also contradicting it by stating that no, the general consensus does not in fact exclude the Anatolian branch in this conjectured history of the origin of the Indo-European family. It's definitely possible that there are nuances here that are lost on me (and presumably others too) without the elaboration undoubtedly provided further on in the article. If that's the case, this paragraph should be rewritten to more clearly state the intended message. Otherwise, the second sentence should be incorporated into the first to avoid confusing people. In either case, this is most likely not the only occurrence of mismatched sentences in the article, so I think this article could probably benefit from a proof-read by someone more knowledgeable and specialized in this subject matter. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) -- 110521sgl ( talk) 09:19, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
It is a good custom in all other culture articles to give Genetics a paragraph of its own, instead of, as here (recently?), including it in the introduction, for which the topic is much too extensive. HJJHolm ( talk) 10:14, 16 June 2023 (UTC)