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Vincent Lee Chuan Leong → 1999 Singapore kidnapping case – The current title is effectively WP:BLP1E and WP:BLPCRIME. "Kidnapping of X" may not work given that the victim's name is generally not available outside, and even if so, we should generally avoid naming the victim here was 14yo when it happened. The proposed title is a descriptive one, and if there is a better alternative title, I am amenable to the proposed title as well. – robertsky ( talk) 14:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering ( talk) 22:48, 29 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal ( talk) 04:23, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Chin Theam Lai, 20, agreed to help his 15-year-old friend, David (not his real name), fake his own kidnap. (The boy cannot be named because of his age.) Why? So they could extort money from David's father. ... The plot began on May 3 when David decided to skip school and asked Chin [sic]
The kidnapping was the first reported kidnapping case to occur in Singapore in a decade. The last case of kidnapping happened in April 1989, when 56-year-old goldsmith Phang Tee Wah was kidnapped by two men – 50-year-old Ibrahim Masod and 44-year-old Liow Han Heng – and later killed, and the men also attempted to extort ransom despite the death of Phang.
Don't support move, because as the creator of the article in question, it is about the kidnapper Mr Lee, who is paroled and released since 2020, and the content leans more to him, the mastermind of the kidnapping and his personal life prior and after his incarceration. Plus there is no doubts raised over the notability of the crime back in 1999 and its aftermath and context. The proposed title is not really ideal for me, and I would, alternatively if the result is move, rename it as Vincent Lee Chuan Leong case or Vincent Lee case or its official court title Public Prosecutor v Vincent Lee Chuan Leong. Still, I affirm my stance that it should not be moved in general. -- NelsonLee20042020 ( talk) 07:20, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Move to an alternative title of Vincent Lee kidnapping case. I agree that this article should be focused on the kidnapping case rather than the mastermind. However, I do not agree with the suggested title of '1999 Singapore kidnapping case'. In my opinion, even if there were indeed no other kidnappings in Singapore that year, the suggested title still feels vague and incomplete. -- Blissfulclarity ( talk) 14:18, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
On some content being oversighted. Not relevant to the RM discussion. – robertsky ( talk) 15:01, 3 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Vincent Lee Chuan Leong → 1999 Singapore kidnapping case – The current title is effectively WP:BLP1E and WP:BLPCRIME. "Kidnapping of X" may not work given that the victim's name is generally not available outside, and even if so, we should generally avoid naming the victim here was 14yo when it happened. The proposed title is a descriptive one, and if there is a better alternative title, I am amenable to the proposed title as well. – robertsky ( talk) 14:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering ( talk) 22:48, 29 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal ( talk) 04:23, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Chin Theam Lai, 20, agreed to help his 15-year-old friend, David (not his real name), fake his own kidnap. (The boy cannot be named because of his age.) Why? So they could extort money from David's father. ... The plot began on May 3 when David decided to skip school and asked Chin [sic]
The kidnapping was the first reported kidnapping case to occur in Singapore in a decade. The last case of kidnapping happened in April 1989, when 56-year-old goldsmith Phang Tee Wah was kidnapped by two men – 50-year-old Ibrahim Masod and 44-year-old Liow Han Heng – and later killed, and the men also attempted to extort ransom despite the death of Phang.
Don't support move, because as the creator of the article in question, it is about the kidnapper Mr Lee, who is paroled and released since 2020, and the content leans more to him, the mastermind of the kidnapping and his personal life prior and after his incarceration. Plus there is no doubts raised over the notability of the crime back in 1999 and its aftermath and context. The proposed title is not really ideal for me, and I would, alternatively if the result is move, rename it as Vincent Lee Chuan Leong case or Vincent Lee case or its official court title Public Prosecutor v Vincent Lee Chuan Leong. Still, I affirm my stance that it should not be moved in general. -- NelsonLee20042020 ( talk) 07:20, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Move to an alternative title of Vincent Lee kidnapping case. I agree that this article should be focused on the kidnapping case rather than the mastermind. However, I do not agree with the suggested title of '1999 Singapore kidnapping case'. In my opinion, even if there were indeed no other kidnappings in Singapore that year, the suggested title still feels vague and incomplete. -- Blissfulclarity ( talk) 14:18, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
On some content being oversighted. Not relevant to the RM discussion. – robertsky ( talk) 15:01, 3 April 2024 (UTC) |
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