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I've spent the last month or so rewriting Marshall's article, and I'd appreciate it if some talk-page watchers would take a look at my work: see User:Extraordinary Writ/Thurgood Marshall. It's not perfect, but I've tried my best to put together a fully sourced article that provides a more-or-less comprehensive overview of Marshall's life and work while remaining concise and readable for the million-some-odd people who view this page each year. I don't want to just move it into mainspace without getting the all-clear from folks on the talk page first, so I'd be eager to hear any and all feedback. Thanks in advance! Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 00:14, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
SL93 (
talk) 00:23, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by Extraordinary Writ ( talk). Nominated by Unlimitedlead ( talk) at 22:06, 29 October 2022 (UTC).
Thurgood Marshall is described as engaged in Social engineering (political science). But there is no link referencing this concept to Social engineering. I recommend that a link be provided. Merriam-Webster dictionary has the definition here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/social%20engineering
Thurgood marshal was born Thoroughgood Bruh138 ( talk) 21:54, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Shouldn't Marshall's behind-the-scenes work for the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover (specifically to undermine civil rights activist T. R. M. Howard) be mentioned in this article, if only briefly? Source: https://www.newsweek.com/strangest-bedfellows-169718 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 01:39, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello fellow editors,
I hope this message finds you well. I'm writing to initiate a discussion regarding the terminology used in the Thurgood Marshall article, specifically the terms "African American" and "Black."
Recent discussions and guidelines, notably those in the context of legal definitions, suggest a more nuanced approach to these terms. According to 28 CFR § 42.402 (e), as referenced in the [Cornell Law School's Legal Information Institute]( https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/42.402), the definition for "Black, not of Hispanic Origin" is a person having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa.
Given Thurgood Marshall's significant contributions and his historical and cultural context, and he was born in American, it may be appropriate to consider if the term "Black" aligns more accurately with current understanding and definitions, rather than "African American."
This discussion aims to align our article with accurate and respectful terminology, considering both historical context and modern legal definitions. I believe it is important to address this in light of evolving understandings of ethnic identities.
I invite all editors to provide their insights and opinions on this matter. Should we consider revising the article to replace instances of "African American" with "Black" in accordance with the federal law definition as stated in 28 CFR § 42.402?
Looking forward to a constructive and respectful discussion.
Best regards, Sleeplessmason ( talk) 16:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Everyone, I don't know how to add a section to the talk page, so sorry for the inconvenience. The Wikipedia article states that Marshall was born on July of 1902, but a government article states that he was born one month earlier. [1]Also, this is the best that I can cite, link is here: https://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/educational-activities/justice-thurgood-marshall-profile-brown-v-board — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:249:A00:8C30:3BAA:4756:6B06:4F08 ( talk • contribs) 18:29, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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A
fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the "
Did you know?" column on
January 14, 2023. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that when asked by reporters why he was retiring,
U.S. Supreme Court justice
Thurgood Marshall replied: "What's wrong with me? I'm old. I'm getting old and coming apart"? | ||||||||||
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I've spent the last month or so rewriting Marshall's article, and I'd appreciate it if some talk-page watchers would take a look at my work: see User:Extraordinary Writ/Thurgood Marshall. It's not perfect, but I've tried my best to put together a fully sourced article that provides a more-or-less comprehensive overview of Marshall's life and work while remaining concise and readable for the million-some-odd people who view this page each year. I don't want to just move it into mainspace without getting the all-clear from folks on the talk page first, so I'd be eager to hear any and all feedback. Thanks in advance! Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 00:14, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
SL93 (
talk) 00:23, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by Extraordinary Writ ( talk). Nominated by Unlimitedlead ( talk) at 22:06, 29 October 2022 (UTC).
Thurgood Marshall is described as engaged in Social engineering (political science). But there is no link referencing this concept to Social engineering. I recommend that a link be provided. Merriam-Webster dictionary has the definition here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/social%20engineering
Thurgood marshal was born Thoroughgood Bruh138 ( talk) 21:54, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Shouldn't Marshall's behind-the-scenes work for the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover (specifically to undermine civil rights activist T. R. M. Howard) be mentioned in this article, if only briefly? Source: https://www.newsweek.com/strangest-bedfellows-169718 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 01:39, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello fellow editors,
I hope this message finds you well. I'm writing to initiate a discussion regarding the terminology used in the Thurgood Marshall article, specifically the terms "African American" and "Black."
Recent discussions and guidelines, notably those in the context of legal definitions, suggest a more nuanced approach to these terms. According to 28 CFR § 42.402 (e), as referenced in the [Cornell Law School's Legal Information Institute]( https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/42.402), the definition for "Black, not of Hispanic Origin" is a person having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa.
Given Thurgood Marshall's significant contributions and his historical and cultural context, and he was born in American, it may be appropriate to consider if the term "Black" aligns more accurately with current understanding and definitions, rather than "African American."
This discussion aims to align our article with accurate and respectful terminology, considering both historical context and modern legal definitions. I believe it is important to address this in light of evolving understandings of ethnic identities.
I invite all editors to provide their insights and opinions on this matter. Should we consider revising the article to replace instances of "African American" with "Black" in accordance with the federal law definition as stated in 28 CFR § 42.402?
Looking forward to a constructive and respectful discussion.
Best regards, Sleeplessmason ( talk) 16:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Everyone, I don't know how to add a section to the talk page, so sorry for the inconvenience. The Wikipedia article states that Marshall was born on July of 1902, but a government article states that he was born one month earlier. [1]Also, this is the best that I can cite, link is here: https://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/educational-activities/justice-thurgood-marshall-profile-brown-v-board — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:249:A00:8C30:3BAA:4756:6B06:4F08 ( talk • contribs) 18:29, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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he was born 1907 40.130.101.194 ( talk) 16:17, 26 February 2024 (UTC)