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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Desertarun ( talk) 10:31, 25 July 2021 (UTC) reply

  • ... that Robert Randal delivered a petition to British officials that requested civil rights for aliens living in Upper Canada? Source: "The provincial legislature passed an act to confer political and civil rights on all those residents of Upper Canada...who had been adjudged aliens...A petition for its disallowance was got up, and the steering committee, appointed Randal to present the request to the imperial government and parliament." ( [1])
    • ALT1:... that Upper Canadian politicians were surprised when Robert Randal's delivery of a petition for civil rights to aliens was a success? Source: See above, and "The success of Randal’s mission was a staggering shock to the Upper Canadian political establishment." ( [2])

5x expanded by Z1720 ( talk). Self-nominated at 20:14, 30 June 2021 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: This looks good to me. Newness/length: Expanded sufficiently in seven days before submission. The article had previously been longer but it was quite reasonably reduced by a third-party editor in 2019 ( diff) and I don't think this counts against length anyway.( diff) Neutrality: Randal was a not a good guy (fortunate he is long dead!) so it's difficult to judge POV but this article seems to me to follow the sources. Both hooks look good to me. I don't think there is a need to do more than link "aliens". I slightly prefer ALT1 but if the creator prefers ALT0 then we should go with that one. Earwig found "Violation Unlikely" after finding the major source (20%). There some short phrases the same but I think this is inevitable and perfectly OK. Thincat ( talk) 12:06, 23 July 2021 (UTC) reply

I don't have a preference for ALT 0 or ALT 1. I'll let the preppers decide which wording is better. Z1720 ( talk) 12:59, 23 July 2021 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Desertarun ( talk) 10:31, 25 July 2021 (UTC) reply

  • ... that Robert Randal delivered a petition to British officials that requested civil rights for aliens living in Upper Canada? Source: "The provincial legislature passed an act to confer political and civil rights on all those residents of Upper Canada...who had been adjudged aliens...A petition for its disallowance was got up, and the steering committee, appointed Randal to present the request to the imperial government and parliament." ( [1])
    • ALT1:... that Upper Canadian politicians were surprised when Robert Randal's delivery of a petition for civil rights to aliens was a success? Source: See above, and "The success of Randal’s mission was a staggering shock to the Upper Canadian political establishment." ( [2])

5x expanded by Z1720 ( talk). Self-nominated at 20:14, 30 June 2021 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: This looks good to me. Newness/length: Expanded sufficiently in seven days before submission. The article had previously been longer but it was quite reasonably reduced by a third-party editor in 2019 ( diff) and I don't think this counts against length anyway.( diff) Neutrality: Randal was a not a good guy (fortunate he is long dead!) so it's difficult to judge POV but this article seems to me to follow the sources. Both hooks look good to me. I don't think there is a need to do more than link "aliens". I slightly prefer ALT1 but if the creator prefers ALT0 then we should go with that one. Earwig found "Violation Unlikely" after finding the major source (20%). There some short phrases the same but I think this is inevitable and perfectly OK. Thincat ( talk) 12:06, 23 July 2021 (UTC) reply

I don't have a preference for ALT 0 or ALT 1. I'll let the preppers decide which wording is better. Z1720 ( talk) 12:59, 23 July 2021 (UTC) reply

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