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I suggest that we separate out the bibliography (including filmography) as a separate article, because it is so extensive and it is making the main article over-long. It is almost half of the real estate of the page (wide screen) and half of the Table of Contents. I'm not in favor of condensing the main article at this time. The important books are mentioned directly in the main article. It is common for prolific rock bands like Pink Floyd to have a separate discography ( Pink Floyd discography). Hu 21:31, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Since more than 100 hours have passed with no dissenting remarks, I have created the Robert A. Heinlein bibliography from the main article. The main article size has been reduced from 61 to 51 kilobytes, and the Table of Contents has be cut in half. Hu 00:56, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Years ago, when RAH came to Tahiti on a cruise boat he gave me, and signed, an LP called, I think, The Green Hills of Earth. I've never listened to it, however. If you want to put it into your Spinoffs I think I still have it around and can give you more info on it. Hayford Peirce 18:29, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Interesting. Please do! Hu 21:23, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
It's a 1977 (copyright date on jacket) stereo LP, Caedmon TC 1526, called "Robert A. Heinlein, THE GREEN HILLS OF EARTH and GENTLEMEN, BE SEATED read by Leonard Nimoy". The GENTLEMEN, BE SEATED is in a much smaller font than THE GREEN HILLS OF EARTH. The cover is a painting by Kelly Freas. The flip side of the jacket has a long intro by Heinlein, plus something almost as lengthy written by someone named Ward Botsford. And there's a small picture and bio of Leonard Nimoy. If you can paste a couple of JPGs together, I could scan the front and back -- the jacket is too wide for my scanner to make a single pic.... Hayford Peirce 17:56, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Give a scan a try, and make sure there is some overlap between the scans and we'll see what we can do. Also scanning the text by Heinlein and the other stuff would be useful if it is readable because then it could be summarized. Hu 18:26, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that it's impossible to subdivide the novels into groups like early, mature, late or whatever in any neutral basis; it's all original research. I see only two objective ways to present this information:
So here's the proposal: Two tables, both of which present exactly the same information, one in alphabetical order, one in order of original publication date. Each table would show:
"Notes" would be extremely short, succinct, relevant facts, like:
Thoughts? -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 02:15, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I've archived the first draft proposal (table-oriented), including Hu's reformatting, to User talk:Jim Douglas/Robert A. Heinlein bibliography table.
I've created a new straw man proposal as User talk:Jim Douglas/Robert A. Heinlein bibliography based on Hu's suggested format, but with two changes: I broke out each title to a separate line, and I moved the month of publication to after the title. I also incorporated all existing material from the beginning and end of the existing Robert A. Heinlein bibliography article to get a better sense of how this would look as a complete article. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 04:30, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
I have added to and edited Moon in art and literature (created huge Heinlein section), Venus in fiction, Ceres in fiction, Mars in fiction, Jupiter's moons in fiction, Saturn in fiction, and Solar System in fiction. Hu 13:32, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I have created the article for " Nothing Ever Happens on the Moon". Hu 09:49, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
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I have read a book which I believe is by Robert A. Heinlein but it's not in the list. Maybe it is one of his and we missed it, or I'm mistaken and it's someone else's, but maybe someone can help me here. Some people develop a gateway to go back to the time of the dinosaurs. Some of them go through the gate, which causes it to break down, and they end up being stranded for a while. Later, one of the scientists from the future comes back to rescue them after they figure a way to be able to summon the return gate via a remote control. A girl from that time follows them back, but notices something in our world that scares her, so she runs back through the gate just before they close it. Anyway, I think that's a summary of (what I believe is) one of Heinlein's books, and if I am right that it is by him, I can't find it. Can someone help me, one way or the other? Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) ( talk) 18:04, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
"At Heinlein's insistence, the three Lyle Monroe stories marked with the symbol '§' have never been reissued in a Heinlein anthology."... during his lifetime but, as noted elsewhere in the article, they appear in Off the Main Sequence. So that line should be removed or modified.
Incidentally, as is discussed elsewhere on this page, I have no problem at all with the structure of the page but I dislike the use of "Mature" to describe the period between the "Early" and "Late". A simpler and more objective description would be "Middle".
The effort to publish the complete works of Heinlein as a set is continuing under the aegis of the Virginia Edition Publishing Company. I received an e-mail from Leah at the Virginia Edition Publishing Company on 05 February 2010 indicating that the work is planned to be completed in July 2010. If you are interested in learning more, I recommend you go to the Virginia Edition website at http://www.virginiaedition.com/cart/index.php?act=viewDoc&docId=5 or the Virginia Edition blogspot at http://virginiaedition.blogspot.com/ for more information, including contact information for Leah. Lonholder ( talk) 15:53, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
216.77.225.193 ( talk) 23:21, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
I would like to see attribution of the current division of Heinlein's works to a reliable source. Otherwise, this appears arbitrary or potentially original. Is there an expert Heinlein source we can attribute this division to? -- Ds13 ( talk) 21:33, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
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I removed
from the Filmography section because Heinlein had no participation in it. Joseph Greene, who developed Tom Corbett, was influenced by Heinlein's Space Cadet, as many others have been, but Heinlein did not write, advise, etc. any of Tom Corbett. Zaslav ( talk) 03:54, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Some of the text in this section is duplicated in The_Number_of_the_Beast_(novel)#The_Pursuit_of_the_Pankera, but not all. I plan to remove this section in a few days to a week, but would appreciate someone either moving the remaining text (mostly editing and publication history) or whatever of it is relevant there, or at least giving feedback on what should be preserved and moved. The Crab Who Played With The Sea ( talk) 17:31, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
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I suggest that we separate out the bibliography (including filmography) as a separate article, because it is so extensive and it is making the main article over-long. It is almost half of the real estate of the page (wide screen) and half of the Table of Contents. I'm not in favor of condensing the main article at this time. The important books are mentioned directly in the main article. It is common for prolific rock bands like Pink Floyd to have a separate discography ( Pink Floyd discography). Hu 21:31, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Since more than 100 hours have passed with no dissenting remarks, I have created the Robert A. Heinlein bibliography from the main article. The main article size has been reduced from 61 to 51 kilobytes, and the Table of Contents has be cut in half. Hu 00:56, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Years ago, when RAH came to Tahiti on a cruise boat he gave me, and signed, an LP called, I think, The Green Hills of Earth. I've never listened to it, however. If you want to put it into your Spinoffs I think I still have it around and can give you more info on it. Hayford Peirce 18:29, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Interesting. Please do! Hu 21:23, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
It's a 1977 (copyright date on jacket) stereo LP, Caedmon TC 1526, called "Robert A. Heinlein, THE GREEN HILLS OF EARTH and GENTLEMEN, BE SEATED read by Leonard Nimoy". The GENTLEMEN, BE SEATED is in a much smaller font than THE GREEN HILLS OF EARTH. The cover is a painting by Kelly Freas. The flip side of the jacket has a long intro by Heinlein, plus something almost as lengthy written by someone named Ward Botsford. And there's a small picture and bio of Leonard Nimoy. If you can paste a couple of JPGs together, I could scan the front and back -- the jacket is too wide for my scanner to make a single pic.... Hayford Peirce 17:56, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Give a scan a try, and make sure there is some overlap between the scans and we'll see what we can do. Also scanning the text by Heinlein and the other stuff would be useful if it is readable because then it could be summarized. Hu 18:26, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that it's impossible to subdivide the novels into groups like early, mature, late or whatever in any neutral basis; it's all original research. I see only two objective ways to present this information:
So here's the proposal: Two tables, both of which present exactly the same information, one in alphabetical order, one in order of original publication date. Each table would show:
"Notes" would be extremely short, succinct, relevant facts, like:
Thoughts? -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 02:15, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I've archived the first draft proposal (table-oriented), including Hu's reformatting, to User talk:Jim Douglas/Robert A. Heinlein bibliography table.
I've created a new straw man proposal as User talk:Jim Douglas/Robert A. Heinlein bibliography based on Hu's suggested format, but with two changes: I broke out each title to a separate line, and I moved the month of publication to after the title. I also incorporated all existing material from the beginning and end of the existing Robert A. Heinlein bibliography article to get a better sense of how this would look as a complete article. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 04:30, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
I have added to and edited Moon in art and literature (created huge Heinlein section), Venus in fiction, Ceres in fiction, Mars in fiction, Jupiter's moons in fiction, Saturn in fiction, and Solar System in fiction. Hu 13:32, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I have created the article for " Nothing Ever Happens on the Moon". Hu 09:49, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
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I have read a book which I believe is by Robert A. Heinlein but it's not in the list. Maybe it is one of his and we missed it, or I'm mistaken and it's someone else's, but maybe someone can help me here. Some people develop a gateway to go back to the time of the dinosaurs. Some of them go through the gate, which causes it to break down, and they end up being stranded for a while. Later, one of the scientists from the future comes back to rescue them after they figure a way to be able to summon the return gate via a remote control. A girl from that time follows them back, but notices something in our world that scares her, so she runs back through the gate just before they close it. Anyway, I think that's a summary of (what I believe is) one of Heinlein's books, and if I am right that it is by him, I can't find it. Can someone help me, one way or the other? Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) ( talk) 18:04, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
"At Heinlein's insistence, the three Lyle Monroe stories marked with the symbol '§' have never been reissued in a Heinlein anthology."... during his lifetime but, as noted elsewhere in the article, they appear in Off the Main Sequence. So that line should be removed or modified.
Incidentally, as is discussed elsewhere on this page, I have no problem at all with the structure of the page but I dislike the use of "Mature" to describe the period between the "Early" and "Late". A simpler and more objective description would be "Middle".
The effort to publish the complete works of Heinlein as a set is continuing under the aegis of the Virginia Edition Publishing Company. I received an e-mail from Leah at the Virginia Edition Publishing Company on 05 February 2010 indicating that the work is planned to be completed in July 2010. If you are interested in learning more, I recommend you go to the Virginia Edition website at http://www.virginiaedition.com/cart/index.php?act=viewDoc&docId=5 or the Virginia Edition blogspot at http://virginiaedition.blogspot.com/ for more information, including contact information for Leah. Lonholder ( talk) 15:53, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
216.77.225.193 ( talk) 23:21, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
I would like to see attribution of the current division of Heinlein's works to a reliable source. Otherwise, this appears arbitrary or potentially original. Is there an expert Heinlein source we can attribute this division to? -- Ds13 ( talk) 21:33, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
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I removed
from the Filmography section because Heinlein had no participation in it. Joseph Greene, who developed Tom Corbett, was influenced by Heinlein's Space Cadet, as many others have been, but Heinlein did not write, advise, etc. any of Tom Corbett. Zaslav ( talk) 03:54, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Some of the text in this section is duplicated in The_Number_of_the_Beast_(novel)#The_Pursuit_of_the_Pankera, but not all. I plan to remove this section in a few days to a week, but would appreciate someone either moving the remaining text (mostly editing and publication history) or whatever of it is relevant there, or at least giving feedback on what should be preserved and moved. The Crab Who Played With The Sea ( talk) 17:31, 27 August 2021 (UTC)