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The hoary old myth that Rin Tin Tin garnered the most votes for Best Actor in 1929 but the studios decided they needed a human winner while patently absurd is widespread on the net and elsewhere. Deleted the assertion, which has no contemporary evidence at all to back it up. aldiboronti ( talk) 18:19, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Looks like this was taken from a web page, not wikified in any way, probably copyright, includes ad copy. Ortolan88
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Rin_Tin_Tin&action=edit#
..it´s not an actor, it´s a character (consuming several dogs)
Birth/death dates fmted per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Dates_of_birth_and_death; the birth & death places are usually included in text in the article. Also if the dog was "found", I question the actual birth date--hence added "c.". Added back the partial list of films because it's interesting & relevant; although maybe should be a separate section at end of article listing all of his films. Elf | Talk 21:02, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Done, just 10 months after you asked for it ;) Proto 09:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The bit about Rin Tin Tin III seemed to be nonsense, however creative. If this can be confirmed, feel free to add it back. Stephen Compall 16:48, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
Wasn't there a Rin Tin Tin cartoon at one point? However, in the series I'm thinking of, the dog was very small, and went on adventures with a young boy.
I very definitely recall a Rin Tin Tin comic book series back in the 1950s and early 1960s, mostly of RTT as the companion/possession of a park ranger in (IIRC) Alaska. As a matter of fact, I wish this article would provide adequate summaries of the plots of the radio series, movies, and TV series. Apparently the dog was first presented in the frozen north, evidently paired with an adult, but the TV series moved him to an wild west Army cavalry fort in the wilderness where he was paired with an orphan boy. What, definitively, was supposed to be the backstory to this dog?
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The Rin Tin Tin Kennels website claims that "Jr." and "II" were both sired by the original. And that "IV" was sired by "II". Until someone comes up with a source that says otherwise, I've taken out the claim that the subsequent dogs are not decended form the original.
They also say that the "Jr" that appeared on TV was not "Rin Tin Tin Jr." but another dog. The makes sense as RTT Jr would have been over twnety years old when the TV show was recorded. cdixon 76.183.29.230 23:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
There's an image of Rintintin's grave on Flickr at http://www.flickr.com/photos/26022927@N00/37160552/. If we can legally add this to the article I think it would add a nice touch. Off2Explore 22:54, 16 Apr 2007 (UTC)
The dog Rantanplan in the Lucky Luke comic series is named after Rin Tin Tin.
Something is wrong with the final paragraph of the Radio section. There are run-on sentences, and the final information there, noting the performers Lee Aakers, James Brown, and Joe Sawyer, refers to the television series but is not clearly stated so. I am not sure how to correct this, but it is garbled as currently shown. StevenTiger ( talk) 14:29, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
At least two solid new books on Rin Tin Tin, one on his film career, one on his (and his pups') lives. The book by the respected journalist Susan Orlean just got a big review in the New York Times. The article should be updated from these solid new sources, and possibly cross listed with the Darryl F. Zanuck article, and Warner Brothers. Interesting new information on Zanuck that I hadn't seen elsewhere. Profhum ( talk) 04:44, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Susan Orlean, in her exhaustive and well researched book, says she failed to turn up a source for the name. Rin Tin Tin was found on the battlefield, though, and rin-tin-tin was the current French version of machine gun fire (cf. our rat-tat-tat.) If you pronounce it in French you'll see it's apt. Okay, that's Original Research, but are any of you reading this an authority who can find an article on it, probably in French? Best, Profhum ( talk) 04:49, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
"In New York City, New York, Mayor Jimmy Walker gave Rin Tin Tin a key to the city". This is currently in the Death and posthumous recognition section, and is given the reference Orlean, Susan. "The Dog Star", The New Yorker, August 29, 2011. This positioning implies the award was posthumous.
Considering that Walker was only mayor for one further month after Rin Tin Tin's death, are we sure this isn't referring to an earlier event? Anyone got the book? Something I've found on google http://www.statesman.com/life/books/orlean-tells-all-about-rin-tin-tin-1903031.html?printArticle=y tells that his owner once received the key - are we sure some confusion hasn't occured? LukeSurl t c 22:53, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
We have Category:Animal actors. I am pretty sure that is the only category this dog really should go in. However it is more clear to me that dogs do not go into nationality categories. Category:American actors is a sub-cat of Category:American people by occupation, so dogs do not go in it. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:12, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I have not been able to find any sources describing exactly how a jump height of 11 feet 9 inches was achieved. This is likely either a boosted jump or complete fabrication, as the current world record dog jump height is 5 feet 8 inches. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:5500:C370:FD00:7CF7:A88A:5DB5:653A ( talk) 16:53, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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The introductory section contains this sentence:
"Duncan groomed Rin Tin Tin IV for the 1950s television series The Adventures of Rin Tin Tin, but the dog performed poorly in a screen test and was replaced in the TV show by trainer Frank Barnes's dogs, primarily one named Flame Jr., called JR, with the public led to believe otherwise."
This is a poorly written sentence.
It is unclear what the phrase "with the public led to believe otherwise" refers to, since the sentence has stated numerous things.
I hope someone knowledgeable on the subject can write this clearly. 2601:200:C000:1A0:CF1:8191:EC52:4A97 ( talk) 17:24, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
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The hoary old myth that Rin Tin Tin garnered the most votes for Best Actor in 1929 but the studios decided they needed a human winner while patently absurd is widespread on the net and elsewhere. Deleted the assertion, which has no contemporary evidence at all to back it up. aldiboronti ( talk) 18:19, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Looks like this was taken from a web page, not wikified in any way, probably copyright, includes ad copy. Ortolan88
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Rin_Tin_Tin&action=edit#
..it´s not an actor, it´s a character (consuming several dogs)
Birth/death dates fmted per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Dates_of_birth_and_death; the birth & death places are usually included in text in the article. Also if the dog was "found", I question the actual birth date--hence added "c.". Added back the partial list of films because it's interesting & relevant; although maybe should be a separate section at end of article listing all of his films. Elf | Talk 21:02, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Done, just 10 months after you asked for it ;) Proto 09:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The bit about Rin Tin Tin III seemed to be nonsense, however creative. If this can be confirmed, feel free to add it back. Stephen Compall 16:48, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
Wasn't there a Rin Tin Tin cartoon at one point? However, in the series I'm thinking of, the dog was very small, and went on adventures with a young boy.
I very definitely recall a Rin Tin Tin comic book series back in the 1950s and early 1960s, mostly of RTT as the companion/possession of a park ranger in (IIRC) Alaska. As a matter of fact, I wish this article would provide adequate summaries of the plots of the radio series, movies, and TV series. Apparently the dog was first presented in the frozen north, evidently paired with an adult, but the TV series moved him to an wild west Army cavalry fort in the wilderness where he was paired with an orphan boy. What, definitively, was supposed to be the backstory to this dog?
Sussmanbern (
talk) 19:07, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
The Rin Tin Tin Kennels website claims that "Jr." and "II" were both sired by the original. And that "IV" was sired by "II". Until someone comes up with a source that says otherwise, I've taken out the claim that the subsequent dogs are not decended form the original.
They also say that the "Jr" that appeared on TV was not "Rin Tin Tin Jr." but another dog. The makes sense as RTT Jr would have been over twnety years old when the TV show was recorded. cdixon 76.183.29.230 23:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
There's an image of Rintintin's grave on Flickr at http://www.flickr.com/photos/26022927@N00/37160552/. If we can legally add this to the article I think it would add a nice touch. Off2Explore 22:54, 16 Apr 2007 (UTC)
The dog Rantanplan in the Lucky Luke comic series is named after Rin Tin Tin.
Something is wrong with the final paragraph of the Radio section. There are run-on sentences, and the final information there, noting the performers Lee Aakers, James Brown, and Joe Sawyer, refers to the television series but is not clearly stated so. I am not sure how to correct this, but it is garbled as currently shown. StevenTiger ( talk) 14:29, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
At least two solid new books on Rin Tin Tin, one on his film career, one on his (and his pups') lives. The book by the respected journalist Susan Orlean just got a big review in the New York Times. The article should be updated from these solid new sources, and possibly cross listed with the Darryl F. Zanuck article, and Warner Brothers. Interesting new information on Zanuck that I hadn't seen elsewhere. Profhum ( talk) 04:44, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Susan Orlean, in her exhaustive and well researched book, says she failed to turn up a source for the name. Rin Tin Tin was found on the battlefield, though, and rin-tin-tin was the current French version of machine gun fire (cf. our rat-tat-tat.) If you pronounce it in French you'll see it's apt. Okay, that's Original Research, but are any of you reading this an authority who can find an article on it, probably in French? Best, Profhum ( talk) 04:49, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
"In New York City, New York, Mayor Jimmy Walker gave Rin Tin Tin a key to the city". This is currently in the Death and posthumous recognition section, and is given the reference Orlean, Susan. "The Dog Star", The New Yorker, August 29, 2011. This positioning implies the award was posthumous.
Considering that Walker was only mayor for one further month after Rin Tin Tin's death, are we sure this isn't referring to an earlier event? Anyone got the book? Something I've found on google http://www.statesman.com/life/books/orlean-tells-all-about-rin-tin-tin-1903031.html?printArticle=y tells that his owner once received the key - are we sure some confusion hasn't occured? LukeSurl t c 22:53, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
We have Category:Animal actors. I am pretty sure that is the only category this dog really should go in. However it is more clear to me that dogs do not go into nationality categories. Category:American actors is a sub-cat of Category:American people by occupation, so dogs do not go in it. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:12, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I have not been able to find any sources describing exactly how a jump height of 11 feet 9 inches was achieved. This is likely either a boosted jump or complete fabrication, as the current world record dog jump height is 5 feet 8 inches. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:5500:C370:FD00:7CF7:A88A:5DB5:653A ( talk) 16:53, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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That's a first pass, so it's on hold. The Rambling Man ( Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:21, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
The introductory section contains this sentence:
"Duncan groomed Rin Tin Tin IV for the 1950s television series The Adventures of Rin Tin Tin, but the dog performed poorly in a screen test and was replaced in the TV show by trainer Frank Barnes's dogs, primarily one named Flame Jr., called JR, with the public led to believe otherwise."
This is a poorly written sentence.
It is unclear what the phrase "with the public led to believe otherwise" refers to, since the sentence has stated numerous things.
I hope someone knowledgeable on the subject can write this clearly. 2601:200:C000:1A0:CF1:8191:EC52:4A97 ( talk) 17:24, 24 October 2022 (UTC)