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I would like to add under 1968 Presidential election. The following as it demonstrates that Nixon violated the Logan act and engaged in activity that can only be called treasonous. However I do not wish to engage in polemics, revert warring and run afoul of admins who have a political bias. After all we all do, don’t we. The only thing found in the middle of the road are yellow strips and roadkill.
Notes of H.R. Halderman, revealed that Nixon actively directed activities to sabotage the 1968 Paris Peace Talks by offering the President of South Vietnam (Gen Theiu ) a better deal Nixon feared that the peace talks would give, Vice President Hubert Humphrey an advantage in the upcoming election. Theiu did back out of the peace talks. Nixon disavowed this charge, however subsequent tape recordings of President Johnson and Halderman’s notes revealed his treachery. According to the tapes President Johnson told the Senate Majority leader Everett Dirksen –“this is treason” and Dirksen replied “I Know”. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/31/opinion/sunday/nixons-vietnam-treachery.html and https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21768668 and https://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/12/george-will-confirms-nixons-vietnam-treason and https://prde.upress.virginia.edu/conversations/4006123 Oldperson ( talk) 23:06, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
{{u|Binksternet))”. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/31/opinion/sunday/nixons-vietnam-treachery.html and https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21768668 and https://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/12/george-will-confirms-nixons-vietnam-treason and https://prde.upress.virginia.edu/conversations/4006123 First is NY times, second is Christian Science Monitor Oldperson ( talk) 19:26, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Noun. A betrayal of trust or confidence, a breach of faith, treachery Noun. A violation of one’s allegiance to one’s government or sovereign Noun. The criminal offense of acting to overthrow one’s government, or of assisting others to do so Oldperson ( talk) 02:03, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
There was an excellent documentary on TV last night, entitled Tricky Dick, which mentioned in detail Nixons treasonous actions when he subverted Johnson's Paris peace initiative, which probably cost America tens of thousands of lives, and Viet Nam hundreds of thousands. The subject demands more in depth exposition and there are plenty of RS in support, including transcripts and audio of a tape recording between Everett Dirksen (Republican and senate majority leader) and LBJ. This is far from a settled issue Oldperson ( talk) 23:44, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
There's been a slow edit war on removing this statement in the lede: he resigned from office, the only American president to do so.
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There was an RFC related to this ( #First sentence(s).).
In that RFC, I stated The goal of the first sentence of a WP article is to assure the reader that they have the right article, and not some other subject that has a similar name that they've got wrong somehow. A few famous people, like Benjamin Franklin, are notable in many different areas and it may be hard to reduce their notability down to a single phrase. But most famous people, despite the full list of all their varied activities, are primarily known for just one thing. Nixon falls into this group. The phrase for him is "the US President that resigned".
Other editors in the RFC specifically agreed with this statement.
To remove the fact he resigned from the lede would require a change in consensus, which is not in evidence.
If there's no reason given in opposition, I will restore the resignation statement to the lede.
-- A D Monroe III( talk) 21:52, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
In summary, this thread is about whether Nixon's resignation as president goes in the 1st sentence (about his term as president), or the 2nd sentence (about his term as vice president).
Despite consensus in this thread, one editor has edited against this, moving the resignation to the 2nd sentence, without presenting anything I can identify as a valid reason, and without further comment here. I'm at a loss to understand why a very experienced and valued editor would insist on doing this.
So, I'm asking for help. Instead of just edit warring, I'm seeking renewed definite statements on this issue to emphatically clarify consensus. I'm pinging the editors in this thread, Happyme22, Wehwalt, Thinker78, DuncanHill, as well as the additional editors in the RFC above that also established consensus for the 1st sentence wording, Nechemia Iron, BorisG, L3X1. Any other editors' are free to comment as well, of course.
I'm hoping doing this makes the consensus completely clear to all, without resorting to starting a full RFC, since that would just be repeating the last RFC, with no reason given to change it, then or since. Thus I believe a full formal RFC would just consume many more editors' time unnecessarily. This hopefully avoids that.
If this doesn't clarify consensus, I'll have to go ahead with a full formal RFC. Of course, if I'm completely wrong and consensus is for this edit, I'll accept that and just close this thread. -- A D Monroe III( talk) 14:33, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Of course, if I'm completely wrong and consensus is for this edit, I'll accept that and just close this thread.-- A D Monroe III( talk) 21:19, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
The goal of the first sentence of a WP article is to assure the reader that they have the right article, and not some other subject that has a similar name that they've got wrong somehow. A few famous people, like Benjamin Franklin, are notable in many different areas and it may be hard to reduce their notability down to a single phrase. But most famous people, despite the full list of all their varied activities, are primarily known for just one thing. Nixon falls into this group. The phrase for him is "the US President that resigned".Nixon's resignation makes him unique. He had many achievements, and I think would be considered a great president otherwise, but according to sources, Watergate overshadowed it all. As with any article, the most notable thing about this subject goes in the most notable position in the article -- the first sentence. If we don't do this, we not only miss-serve our readers, we tacitly imply that WP has some shame or fear about this fact. Nixon's resignation of the presidency belongs in the sentence that states the years of his presidency -- the first sentence. -- A D Monroe III( talk) 20:46, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Just like we begin FDR, an article I have nothing to do with:
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (
/ˈroʊzəvəlt/,
[1]
/-vɛlt/;
[2] January 30, 1882 – April 12, 1945), often referred to by initials FDR, was an American statesman and political leader who served as the 32nd
president of the United States from 1933 until his death in 1945. A member of the
Democratic party, he won a record four
presidential elections and became a central figure in world events during the first half of the 20th century.
His four terms make him unique bu it's in the second sentence. That's it.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 21:29, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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While I agree with Wehwalt that the number of bathrooms and rooms is irrelevant, the fact that he bought the entire 7th floor is highly relevant, which in fact is neither a condominium or a townhouse. The best word(s) would be an imperial apartment: a suite of rooms in a very large or grand house set aside for the private use of a monarch or noble. Oldperson ( talk) 00:54, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
The term "townhouse" in NYC real estate means exactly that. The original entry, the use of that term commits a factual error, hence the need for my edit. In a multi-unit building, generally the two legal terms for a single unit is either co-op or condominium. Nixon bought a condominium, a completely different type of property, legally, from a co-op and obviously different structurally from a townhouse. Further, One doesn't usually buy "the entire 7th floor;" the purchase was for a single unit configured to use the entire 7th floor. Seth1066 ( talk) 22:39, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Tricky business because real estate terms are not well standardized and in different countries mean different things. 2001:8003:A02F:F400:F886:12B9:345C:78F6 ( talk) 04:46, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
In the discussions about Paul Manafort and Julian Assange it has been said on various occasions that they can be pardoned only AFTER the courtcase, i.e. after they are convicted. For Julian Assange that would mean a court case in the US and quite a risk. For Manafort's pardon possibilities that means of course that Trump could only pardon him for a federal conviction and State governors would pardon him for State conviction - if they are so inclined.
Nixon was pardoned without being convicted. I think, these legal matters need to be revisited. 2001:8003:A02F:F400:F886:12B9:345C:78F6 ( talk) 04:55, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
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Change "Nixon was born tgo a poor family in Yorba Linda, California." to "Nixon was born to a poor family in Yorba Linda, California." because there is a typo. 91.168.45.81 ( talk) 12:32, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi there. I noticed there was no link to Gerald Ford, even though there is one for him under vice-president. I think it should be kept as the first time I was on this article, I didn't see there was already a link. I hope it's ok to keep the link to Gerald Ford because I think it is useful to have.
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There is no evidence the specific European ancestrors of Nixon are defining and there is no good reason to have these categories. This amount to over categorization by a triavial aspect. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:27, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
I feel like part of the lede is too long/descriptive. For the first paragraph, I would change it from...
Richard Milhous Nixon (January 9, 1913 – April 22, 1994) was the 37th president of the United States, serving from 1969 until 1974. As the nation's 36th vice president from 1953 to 1961, he came to national prominence as a representative and senator from California. After five years in the White House that saw the conclusion to the U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War, and the establishment of the Environmental Protection Agency, he became the only president to resign from the office.
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Richard Milhous Nixon (January 9, 1913 – April 22, 1994) was the 37th president of the United States, serving from 1969 until 1974. As the nation's 36th vice president from 1953 to 1961, he came to national prominence as a representative and senator from California. Nixon is the only president to resign from the office.
I would also change the second paragraph from...
Nixon was born into a poor family in a small town in Southern California. He graduated from Duke University School of Law in 1937 and returned to California to practice law. He and his wife Pat moved to Washington in 1942 to work for the federal government. He served on active duty in the Navy Reserve during World War II. He was elected to the House of Representatives in 1946. His pursuit of the Hiss Case established his reputation as a leading anti-Communist which elevated him to national prominence. in 1950, he was elected to the Senate. He was the running mate of Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Republican Party presidential nominee in the 1952 election, and he became the second-youngest vice president in history at age 40, serving for eight years in that capacity. He waged an unsuccessful presidential campaign in 1960, narrowly losing to John F. Kennedy, and he lost a race for governor of California to Pat Brown in 1962. In 1968, he ran for the presidency again and was elected, defeating Vice President Hubert Humphrey and Alabama Governor George Wallace in a close election.
to...
Nixon was born into a poor family in a small town in Southern California. He graduated from Duke University School of Law in 1937 and returned to California to practice law. He and his wife Pat moved to Washington in 1942 to work for the federal government. He served on active duty in the Navy Reserve during World War II. He was elected to the House of Representatives in 1946. His pursuit of the Hiss Case established his reputation as a leading anti-Communist which elevated him to national prominence. In 1950, he was elected to the Senate. He was the running mate of Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Republican Party's presidential nominee in the 1952 election, serving for eight years in that capacity. He waged an unsuccessful presidential campaign in 1960, narrowly losing to John F. Kennedy. Nixon then lost a race for governor of California to Pat Brown in 1962. In the 1968 election, he ran for the presidency again and was elected, defeating Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace in a close election.
Nixon becoming the second-youngest vice president ever seems trivial. I also think we should be consistent with the job titles. And, the last two paragraphs in the lede would remain the same. Would anyone object to these changes? -- Wow ( talk) 09:39, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
There's a section describing his illness in 1974 and his reluctance do take care of the matter. It has been cited that Nixon had nosocomephobia, a fear of hospitals. In the nosocomephobia article, Richard Nixon is mentioned in a citation. However, nosocomephobia is not directly mentioned in the article. Does nosocomephobia need to be directly mentioned to link both articles together? FunksBrother ( talk) 16:39, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Thematically makes no sense. He was a hawk, he drastically escalated the war. To only mention him ending the war might give a casual reader the impression he was anti-war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.126.71.11 ( talk) 07:17, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
@ Rowsdower45: Please see MOS:JOBTITLES instead of vaguely invoking "Wikipedia style guidelines". The MoS shows "Nixon was the 37th president of the United States." It can't get any clearer than that. Please follow the MoS and restore "office = 37th president of the United States" and "office1 = 36th vice president of the United States". Chris the speller yack 04:19, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Please see the above section of this talk page, and the relevant edits in which the above user takes the position that terms such as "president" and "vice president" should be in lower-case when used in Template:Infobox officeholder and certain inline contexts. I admit I can't find the exact words to explain why we do what we do, but I believe my interpretation of MOS:JOBTITLES is closer to being accurate than theirs, and that their interpretation would require a radical change in the way we stylize articles on elected officials. Rowsdower45 ( talk) 02:41, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
In the opening paragraph, the following sentence uses the past tense of rise (rose) when it should use the past perfect tense (risen).
Current quote: “A member of the Republican Party, Nixon previously served as the 36th vice president from 1953 to 1961, having rose to national prominence as a representative and senator from California.”
Suggested edit: “A member of the Republican Party, Nixon previously served as the 36th vice president from 1953 to 1961, having risen to national prominence as a representative and senator from California.” Logkirk ( talk) 08:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
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In line 2 of the first paragraph, "rose" should br corrected to "risen" 31.50.189.16 ( talk) 17:31, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Self explanatory it has a good wiki here and is a new term to many readers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.47.112.3 ( talk) 16:48, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Nixon won every state except for Massachusetts in 1972. Although he never won Massachusetts while running for president, he did win Massachusetts in his 1952 and 1956 vice presidential campaigns. Would this make him the only person to have ever won a general election in all 50 states? GamerKiller2347 ( talk) 00:41, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Racist rant Vedant Koladiya ( talk) 06:54, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Added to the legacy section. It was removed previously. Meethamonkey ( talk) 07:20, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
"@Heba Aisha:" I thought about that but there are many more things that are controversial about him eg. Views on black and Jewish people , so that would take time and to put this item alone in the section would be giving it extra weightage. But ultimately it should be there . Anyways thanks for the input. Meethamonkey ( talk) 11:55, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
During the 2016 Clinton/Trump campaign. The Sydney Morning Herald picked up on a tweet from a President Nixon role playing account and reported the tweet as if it had been made by the real RMN (who died in 1994). [1] PAustin4thApril1980 ( talk) 21:23, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Declassified documents from the Richard Nixon Presidential Library show that Nixon held deeply racist views for the Indian people and sexual hatred for Indian Women as revealed by author Gary J. Bass. [2]Describing Indian women as "undoubtedly" the most unattractive women in the world. Also describing Indian people as the most "sexless" and "nothing" people in the world . At one point comparing indian people with " African blacks " , stating that atleast they have an "animallike charm" but the Indians were "ack, pathetic" . [2]
If anybody could suggest what was wrong with this . Meethamonkey ( talk) 06:06, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
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Gary j. Bass is a prominent author when it comes to south Asia and the 1971 Bangladesh war . Also these are very recent revelations and are all over the Indian media ( also in the NYT). The source for this are audio recordings declassified by the Nixon Presidential library . One might think that Nixon possibly turned a blind eye to the Bangladeshi genocide because of his racist views for indians ( as suggested in the NYT article ) , which was one of the biggest genocide in history . So I would say tht this has a lot of relevance . Wouldn't you say ? Meethamonkey ( talk) 06:34, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Well as I mentioned it is only a recent revelation , so it will not be found in his biographies. Also it has been covered by NYT And Indian news networks . Meethamonkey ( talk) 07:35, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Well as these were his personal views, I think , it will not be relevant to his presidency . However if you think that this info is not relevant to this page then we can just leave it out for the time being . Meethamonkey ( talk) 08:05, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Nixon's Israel policy is important enough to mention because his action, and his personal involvement in them, was enough to get massive coverage in the papers at the time, favorable even in the midst of Watergate, which is covered in detail in his biographies.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 16:46, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
I also support MeethaMonkey's edits. Someone being racist towards a group is certainly not minor. Racial views have been listed on other BLPs too. 14:58, 5 September 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LéKashmiriSocialiste ( talk • contribs)
At the end of the section on Nixon's military service it states :
"On March 10, 1946, he was relieved of active duty.[41] He resigned his commission on New Year's Day 1946.[48] On June 1, 1953, he was promoted to commander.[41] He retired in the U.S. Naval Reserve on June 6, 1966."
This doesn't make sense to me. When you resign your commission you no longer have any military status. So, if he resigned his commission on January 1, 1946, what was he doing on active duty through March 10, 1946? Then he was promoted to commander in 1953.
I served as an officer in the USMC and left active duty on June 30, 1973. But I still retained my commission in the Inactive Reserve. Later, I returned to the Active Reserve for four years then became inactive once again. After four more years I finally resigned my commission and no longer had any military connection or title.
So it would make more sense to state Nixon 'left' active duty on March 10, 1946, but stayed in the Inactive Reserve. Still how could he leave active duty in March if he 'resigned' his commission over two months earlier?
Military personnel have a six year obligation. But if you serve two, three or four years, depending on your enlistment obligation, you still stay a member of the Inactive Reserve until six years is up, even if you never attend any military function. Then one day you get a letter saying your six years is up, and the military doesn't 'bother' you again.
The text sounds to me as if Nixon left active duty in March 1946, but stayed in the Reserves, probably Active Reserves for awhile, as he was promoted to commander in 1953. To retire in 1966 he had to be doing some periods of active reserve duty over those years. But quite frankly, the military services let politicians skip periods of duty as politicians obviously have political influence in military matters.
Someone should check this out and correct the text. It's just not going to be me. Thomas R. Fasulo ( talk) 01:09, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
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Remove the second instance of the word "in" in the following sentence, located in paragraph number 2:
FROM: He was the running mate of Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Republican Party's presidential nominee in the 1952 election, subsequently serving for eight years in as the vice president.
TO: He was the running mate of Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Republican Party's presidential nominee in the 1952 election, subsequently serving for eight years as the vice president. Gnelson2 ( talk) 03:45, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
another edit request. the name of the author of "the space shuttle decision" (a reference) is Heppenheimer not Hepplewhite 157.131.250.246 ( talk) 13:25, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
You say he’s the 36th Vice President but he is the 34th Jenmolidor ( talk) 05:03, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Richard Nixon earned his law degree from Duke in 1937. However, until the 1960s, universities were awarding LLB degree. Not the JD. Did Nixon earn a JD or LLB degree?-- RandomUserGuy1738 ( talk) 17:13, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Should this article and Richard Nixon 1968 presidential campaign not include SOME mention that notes indicate Nixon was involved in an effort to interfere in Vietnam peace talks Johnson was having ahead of the 1968 presidential election. It is HIGHLY notable and well-sourced, and already included in Paris Peace Accords. It's an incredibly noteworthy aspect of both Nixon's pre-presidency and campaign.
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Why do we need Category:American people of Irish descent? Can we remove it? Supaboy101 ( talk) 19:36, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Whats the "list of"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supaboy101 ( talk • contribs) 14:07, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Somebody please put the gold standard in here. It doesn't mention how in 1971, President Nixon took America off the gold standard.(unsigned)
Hi,
I reckon we should use the actual official photo on the infobox, instead of the one we’re using now. It looks better, it’s restored, and it’s actually official.
My proposed photo: Nixon Official Presidential Portrait, 07-08-1971restoredh.jpg
Current infobox photo: Richard Nixon presidential portrait.jpg TomVenam2021 ( talk) 20:56, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
In most articles, the person's occupation is included in the introduction sentence. Should it be included in this article? Thomascampbell123 ( talk) 19:27, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Then why do other articles say "American politician"? Thomascampbell123 ( talk) 04:57, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
But what is the reason behind that? Thomascampbell123 ( talk) 19:53, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
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emerged from Air Force One and greeted Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai. This should be written as.... we're greeted by Chinese.... It happened in China so the Chinese did the greeting 103.152.126.64 ( talk) 02:29, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
We should mention that Nixon " told H.R. Haldeman to 'monkey wrench' President Lyndon B. Johnson's efforts to begin peace negotiations over the Vietnam War." Currently, this article makes Nixon look like a hero who finale made the war end, which is a very twisted version of what actually happened. If we want to include part of Haldeman's notes from Oct. 22, 1968, they can be found here. — Kri ( talk) 23:23, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
According to https://www.californiabirthindex.org/fullname/nixon/richard , California's birth records have no one with the name Richard Nixon after 1905 until 1924. If he had another name at birth, then his birth name should be included in the article. If his birth was never properly recorded in California, that's notable considering how big an issue was made about Obama's birth (which had been properly recorded in Hawaii). If it was properly recorded under the name Richard Nixon but was excluded from https://www.californiabirthindex.org either because he's a public figure or by mistake, that's probably not notable. 47.139.42.245 ( talk) 04:54, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
What difference does it make now? When Obama was president i can see a likely reason for argument, but Nixon is dead, and Obama is no longer president. Why argue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7080:D43E:19F0:1985:23B5:5C8:8472 ( talk) 16:15, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
Query whether the display of ribbons, etc in the Military service section is the best placement, as it creates a substantial break for the reader. Consideration is suggested to placing these at the end of the article. For comparison, see Eisenhower article and Grant. Hoppyh ( talk) 14:46, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
I have omitted the following from the presidential campaign section to reduce overcrowding: America needs Nixon.png|thumb|upright|Text on automobile trash bag given away by the Nixon campaign in California, 1968 Hoppyh ( talk) 02:04, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
The following was omitted from the U.S. Senate section due to overcrowding: 1950 United States Senate election in California results map by county.svg Hoppyh ( talk) 02:37, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
See first paragraph of the section—“Nixon followed up by sending to China for clandestine meetings with Chinese officials.” Who did Nixon send? Hoppyh ( talk) 14:49, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
@ Wehwalt:My edit for adding a section for Indo-US relations was removed entirely, with inadequate explanation (explanation only referred to a single line out of the entire edit, for purpose of removing the entire section, which I find unsatisfactory). The edit summary for the edit reverting my edits pertains to Nixons racist views, not about whether or not India was relevant to Nixon.(unsigned by CapnJackSp)
I cannot edit it so i leave it here if some of you "verfied" users want to upload it just rember to credit me
i dont know how to license it but its copy from the orginal file wich was stated that it needed a "retouch" and here you go removed the scratches, some of you wiser guys can do the license thingy that the orginal had — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toyota Corolla E140 ( talk • contribs) 18:31, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
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Removed lots of scratches, specs of dirt etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toyota Corolla E140 ( talk • contribs) 21:03, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
President Eisenhower was sworn in after my birth and served 8 years from 1953 until 1961. I just never knew who his vice president was. I knew Nixon ran for president in 1960, for I voted for him in a mock election in elementary school. His name was easier for a kid to remember than was "Kennedy."
Here is the piece that I copied from the article's edit page:
Richard Milhous Nixon (January 9, 1913 – April 22, 1994) was the 37th president of the United States, serving from 1969 to 1974. He was a member of the Republican Party who previously served as a representative and senator from California and was the 36th vice president from 1953 to 1961. His five years in the White House saw the end of U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War, ...
I was reading, "and was the 36th vice president from 1953 to 1961. His five years in the White House ..." and started counting the 8 years that I just read at the end of the last sentence. It might be wise to rephrase the start of the partial sentence that I quoted here to read, "His five years as President saw the end of U.S. involvement ..."
Doesn't the Vice President also serve in and around the White House? I know she is the President of the U.S. Senate, so the VP will spend much of her time in the Capitol as well as representing the nation overseas at the request of the President.
It just struck me though, that, while I read of Nixon being the President, the last thing in my reading was his eight years in the White House as Vice President.
Please review these thoughts and then revise the suggested wording, if you think it appropriate. Lytzf ( talk) 01:44, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
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In the Vietnam War section, in the line cited number 155, the word "overrun" should be changed to "overran" as everything else in the sentence is written in the past tense. BIp9 ( talk) 17:32, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
The reason I inserted the image of the "Man of Steel" button into the end of the "Personality and public image" section was that it ironically emphasizes what is usually assumed to be Nixon's foremost problem, the "toughness" self-image that he prized and that appears to have isolated him from actual friendships (and also enabled him to become president of the United States against the usual overwhelming odds, although his mentor Thomas E. Dewey gave Nixon the priceless boost of engineering the vice presidential spot beside Eisenhower in 1952). Quoting Richard Reeves from the section---Nixon's presidency was doomed by his personality, Reeves argues: "He assumed the worst in people and he brought out the worst in them ... He clung to the idea of being "tough". He thought that was what had brought him to the edge of greatness. But that was what betrayed him. He could not open himself to other men and he could not open himself to greatness." Earlier in the same section we have this: Nixon biographer Conrad Black described him as being "driven" though also "uneasy with himself in some ways". According to Black, Nixon "thought that he was doomed to be traduced, double-crossed, unjustly harassed, misunderstood, underappreciated, and subjected to the trials of Job, but that by the application of his mighty will, tenacity, and diligence, he would ultimately prevail." This is a basic thrust of the section (and, one might venture to say, Nixon's life) and is ironically crystallized by that slogan on that campaign button "Man of Steel," which is usually reserved for either Stalin or Superman in popular culture. I think placing it right there, as a conclusion to the section as well as the entire actual text of the article itself, is irresistible. I remember the 1960 campaign vividly but I'd forgotten about that button until I spotted it in Wikimedia, to my surprised delight. To place it in that spot emphasizes and serves as a literal illustration of what that section is about. Changing the subject to a different photograph, the picture of Nixon in his Air Force One cabin winging his way to China and ultimately changing the global economy completely (for better or for worse) is worthwhile because photographs of Nixon depicting a good view of his Air Force One cabin, a diverting symbol of presidential power itself, are quite rare and this one is particularly superb. Racing Forward (talk) 18:35, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
My was reverted (and fair enough, that's why we have talk pages) so I want bring up four issues with the existing text on here.
The Nixon Foundation's narrative of Humphries desire for a bombing halt as an "October surprise" is not NPOV. Humphries campaigned on such a halt. The peace talks were openly in progress. From the peace talk POV, the puncturing of the talks is what seems motivated by an "October surprise" perpetrated by the Nixon campaign. However, my edit kept in, even expanded on, the three conditions that Nixon perceived Johnson had promised the candidates.
What's relevant is that the order was given, which the Haldeman notes show.
As an aside, calling her "a fundraiser" is reductive; she was a lobbyist.
1. A pointless and vague sentence only serving to try to dilute the severity of the event
2. Chennault's interference is well documented in Diễm's messages to Thiệu.
3. The charge against Nixon is that he gave the order. It's not super relevant whether or not the order succeeded. If I order you to shoot a guy, the event that your gun jams up would not make me less guilty. (Whether or not "the gun jammed" in this instance is an argument for other articules more specific to the peace talks—there are much to indicate that the monkey wrench did have a very big impact.)
Nixon Foundation's "monkey wrench" essay is an extremely POV text. We don't need to perpetuate its perspective. Stick to the facts neutrally.
More vagueness ("questionable", "not clear").
Again not relevant to what Nixon did according to the Haldeman notes.
If I order you to shoot a guy, the event that someone else kills that guy before your bullet would not make me less guilty.
This monkey wrench is possibly the worst thing Nixon ever did. The fact that it's quickly glossed over on Wikipedia deep in a section labeled (and primarily about) "1968 presidential election" and then softened by "whether", "controversy", "contention", "questionable", "not clear" is not something I sign off on.
He tried to surreptitously stop this bombing halt. That is a pretty big deal for the history books in terms of human lives. The bombing halt was stopped. Many died. Nixon won the election. Whether or not the bombing halt would've been stopped by other people anyway without Nixon in some sort of It's A Wonderful Life side story is not nothing, but it does not absolve Nixon for his decision. The three conditions were not acheived.
I felt that my edit gave kind of a fair shake to the Nixon Foundation's perspective—keeping the three conditions and Nixon's perceived sense of betrayal from Johnson, while removing all the "maybe kinda sorta it wasn't that bad", while not putting in my own POV which is this was really freaking awful and should even be in the first paragraph. My own POV is that this is what people should think of when they think of Nixon. Gritting my teeth, I left it buried as a sub paragraph re the 1968 election campaign but I sure as heckfire don't sign off on a consensus re the existing language. Jikybebna ( talk) 09:42, 15 August 2022 (UTC) Jikybebna ( talk) 09:42, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
The four mitigating factors:
The very, very POV "monkey wrench" essay from the Nixon Foundation spends most of its time on the three latter points, but none of the three are relevant when what's disputed is whether Nixon treated human lives as a political campaign tool. We should stick to presenting facts neutrally. Jikybebna ( talk) 10:29, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
"Though he had to ride a school bus an hour each way during his freshman year, he received excellent grades." What does riding a bus an hour each way have to do with his grades? That's like saying, "Though he wore plaid shirts, he received excellent grades." One has nothing to do with the other. Lots of kids have long bus rides. So what? That should be removed. 76.202.192.102 ( talk) 02:47, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Richard_Nixon&action=history
I see that a user named User:Loafiewa keeps removing the Gerald Ford link in the infobox, and cites the reason as "MOS:OVERLINK". Why? It's very much not overlinking. Every other president has links to both their predecessor and successor. If you think there are too many Gerald Ford links on the page, then the others can be removed, but don't remove the link in the infobox. Aaronfranke ( talk) 04:58, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
"..in 1968, he made another run for the presidency and was elected, narrowly defeating Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace in a close contest" – Nixon didn't "narrowly defeat" Wallace. There surely must be a better way of phrasing that. Harfarhs ( talk) 15:43, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
In those mischievous White House tapes, civilian Nixon greeted then-President Johnson as "Dick Nixon" at least as late as 1967, if you look it up and listen on YouTube, so the use of "Dick Nixon" was certainly going full-blast then, although the "Tricky Dick" version might have taken the fun out of it for him. In informal conversations with peers, he was known for decades as identifying himself as "Dick Nixon." I chose the word "peers" with great care, however, since he liked "friends" such as Bebe Robozo to address him with his current title long before he was president, as "Senator Nixon" or "Vice President Nixon" or whatever he happened to be at any given time. He certainly considered Jack Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson to be peers although of course he always used "Mr. President" during the presidency of each and expected and received the same when he finally became president himself. The name "Dick Nixon" should certainly be cited in bold print because it was how he was widely thought of the entire time prior to his presidency, hence the darker but even more pervasive "Tricky Dick" (which should probably also receive mention in boldface because it was so relentlessly prevalent throughout his career). I lived through all of this myself, getting most of this information in real time. Listen to him on tape with Kennedy or Johnson and you'll see that he calls himself "Dick Nixon." What I don't remember until after he resigned is his dropping his middle initial, which was always in evidence on posters and in newspaper articles about him. I knew that he dropped it but I don't think it was before his political career had ended although it's certainly possible that it was. It was a sign of the times; now middle initials are generally out of favor but were once practically a necessity for practicing politicians, especially most presidents. While we're talking about alternate nicknames, unfortunately "RMN" doesn't have the same ring as FDR or JFK or LBJ although Nixon's last name was so short (five letters) that it practically made it a moot point. Nixon tried "RN" in imitation of his idol Theodore Roosevelt's "TR" but it never really caught on. I think we should definitely restore "Dick Nixon" in boldface; after all, Kennedy's Wikipedia article offers his nickname "Jack" in boldface and it would be a shame to shortchange Nixon's nickname. And "Dick Nixon" was far better known to the general public than "Jack Kennedy" at the time: the press was usually so reverent toward Kennedy during that era that they couldn't bear to bastardize the apparently shimmering elegance of "John F. Kennedy." Hey, if you happen to also be interested in Kennedy, check out The Dark Side of Camelot by Seymour Hersh, the investigative reporter who broke both the My Lai and Abu Ghraib stories, assuming you haven't read it already. Racing Forward (talk) 02:36, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
A recent edit added some info on Nixon's supposed sabotage of the Paris Peace talks in '68. I made a few slight alterations based on a few points: #1. Neither source states (as near as I can tell) that this was indeed Nixon's "secret" plan to end the war. So that part needed to come out. Secondly, one of the sources itself makes the point that Thieu's resistance to any agreement cannot entirely be put at the feet of the Nixon campaign (if true). Indeed, Thieu had to be browbeat into signing the agreement (by Nixon) 4 years later. And finally, to say (definitively) this was a violation of the Logan Act is something even the source doesn't say. The one source that mentions the Logan Act says it is a "seeming violation" of the act. Rja13ww33 ( talk) 03:00, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Anybody think his pardon of Hoffa is worth mentioning? Rja13ww33 ( talk) 01:45, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
I think this article's structure has regressed; compare this October 4 version to the current one, and you'll see that there are now far more top-level headings, an increase from 16 to 21. Subjectively, it leads the article to feel less organized and more "daunting", since it gives equal prominence to the longest section (on his presidency), and to very short and minor sections about his political rise. Each phase of Nixon's life isn't equally noteworthy, so I favour grouping those sections into a "Rising politician" section. That's how it was organized when the article passed FAC, too. It seems like this was changed in this October 2022 edit by SecretName101, which has not so far been discussed on this talk page. — DFlhb ( talk) 17:27, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Timothy_Leary#The_most_dangerous_man_in_America. Thank you. Viriditas ( talk) 00:49, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
About visit in Soviet Union: Nixon returned in the city where he stayed for two months as a child in 12 years - Degtyarsk. 2A00:1FA2:200:5935:0:2B:9CFD:E01 ( talk) 15:59, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Neither of these terms are consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources
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User:Drdpw and I disagree as to whether Category:American poker players and Category:Amateur poker players are appropriate. I say they are. Nixon's poker winnings helped finance his first political campaign (as noted in a The Independent article), and this Card Player article states that Nixon himself said that the skills he learned from poker proved invaluable in his political career. Clarityfiend ( talk) 03:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Our lead says
Nixon ended American involvement in Vietnam combat in 1973 and the military draft in the same year.
Without contextualizing the now-accepted mainstream view that he prolonged the war by many years and many deaths, and that the all-volunteer army paved the way for ongoing US military adventures in the Mideast. Any ideas about framing this more neutrally or at least helping readers avoid undue conclusions about these actions? SPECIFICO talk 16:27, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Hey everyone! I was looking into presidents' official places of residence, specifically their official home state / state of residence. To do so, one of the sources I used was the NARA's collection of Death File records from the Social Security Administration. On said records, the zip code of someone's residence at the time of their death is given. For some reason, contrary to all other records for presidents among the Death Files, Nixon's residence (and his wife's residence) is different than their commonly acknowleged residence: the zipcode given in the source links to Bronxville, New York rather than New Jersey. Does anyone have any evidence or opinions that may help with this matter? Thank you!
The source is: https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=3003&mtch=71&cat=all&tf=F&sc=29343,29348,29350,29353,29354,29355,29362,29370,29371,29372&q=richard+nixon&bc=sl,fd&rpp=10&pg=2&rid=5274443&rlst=5273987,5274030,5274034,5274266,5274307,5274411,5274443,5274910,5275189,5275198 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ozzy4Prezz ( talk • contribs) 22:14, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
This article is missing information about Nixon and his alleged complicity in the Bangladesh genocide during the Bangladesh Liberation War. This topic was most prominently the subject of the 2013 book The Blood Telegram: Nixon, Kissinger, and a Forgotten Genocide by Gary J. Bass. This isn't just any old book; it not only has its own Wikipedia article, but also was one of the two finalists for the 2014 Pulitzer Prize for General Nonfiction and won the 2014 Cundill Prize, probably the most prestigious award for a general history book (the Pulitzer Prize for History is limited to US history), among other awards.
It also received significant coverage in multiple news publications, the most notable of which are:
This information is already featured prominently in Henry Kissinger and Bangladesh genocide, although those articles are admittedly not featured articles. Regardless, I feel that this article ignores major recent scholarship that was published after this article's promotion to featured status in 2011. If this article has room to mention Nixon's elimination of the Cabinet-level United States Post Office Department, his purchase of a condominium in New York City in 1979, and his meeting with newspaper publishers in 1986, it should have room for this consequential policy of Nixon's presidency.
I saw in the archives that Bangladesh was previously brought up, most recently here, but I don't think they made a strong enough case for its inclusion. Malerisch ( talk) 12:55, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
I'll be the first to admit that I'm not an expert on this subject. But from what I understand, although the broad strokes of Nixon's policy were previously known, The Blood Telegram fleshes out the details. Quoting from the preface:
To this day, four decades after the massacres, the dead hand of Nixonian cover-up still prevents Americans from knowing the full record. The White House staff routinely sanitized their records of conversations, sometimes at Kissinger’s specific urging. Even now, mildewed and bogus claims of national security remain in place to bleep out particularly embarrassing portions of the White House tapes. Kissinger struck a deal with the Library of Congress that, until five years after his death, blocks researchers from seeing his papers there unless they have his written permission. Even if you could get in, according to the Library of Congress, many of Kissinger’s most important papers are still hidden from daylight by a thicket of high-level classifications, security clearances, and need-to-know permissions. Kissinger did not reply to two polite requests for an interview, and then, four months later, refused outright. But against Nixon and Kissinger’s own misrepresentations and immortal stonewalling, there is a different story to be found in thousands of pages of recently declassified U.S. papers, in dusty Indian archives, and on unheard hours of the White House tapes—offering a more accurate, documented account of Nixon and Kissinger’s secret role in backing the perpetrators of one of the worst crimes of the twentieth century.
The preface also states:
Knowing full well that they were acting illegally, [Nixon and Kissinger] provided U.S. weapons to Pakistan, which was under a U.S. arms embargo—an unknown scandal that is of a piece with the overall pattern of lawlessness that culminated with Watergate. As recently declassified documents and transcripts prove, Nixon and Kissinger approved a covert supply of sophisticated U.S. fighter airplanes via Jordan and Iran—despite explicit and emphatic warnings from both the State Department and the Defense Department that such arms transfers to Pakistan were illegal under U.S. law.
The rest of the book is filled with reporting that uses the sources mentioned above, as well as "interviews with White House staffers and Indian military leaders".
Bass actually fully declassified more tapes after the publication of The Blood Telegram in 2013, so he published an op-ed in the NYT in 2020 with further revelations about Nixon's "racism and misogyny" toward Indians.
Farrell's biography includes The Blood Telegram in its bibliography and appears to summarize its events. Malerisch ( talk) 03:44, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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I would like to add under 1968 Presidential election. The following as it demonstrates that Nixon violated the Logan act and engaged in activity that can only be called treasonous. However I do not wish to engage in polemics, revert warring and run afoul of admins who have a political bias. After all we all do, don’t we. The only thing found in the middle of the road are yellow strips and roadkill.
Notes of H.R. Halderman, revealed that Nixon actively directed activities to sabotage the 1968 Paris Peace Talks by offering the President of South Vietnam (Gen Theiu ) a better deal Nixon feared that the peace talks would give, Vice President Hubert Humphrey an advantage in the upcoming election. Theiu did back out of the peace talks. Nixon disavowed this charge, however subsequent tape recordings of President Johnson and Halderman’s notes revealed his treachery. According to the tapes President Johnson told the Senate Majority leader Everett Dirksen –“this is treason” and Dirksen replied “I Know”. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/31/opinion/sunday/nixons-vietnam-treachery.html and https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21768668 and https://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/12/george-will-confirms-nixons-vietnam-treason and https://prde.upress.virginia.edu/conversations/4006123 Oldperson ( talk) 23:06, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
{{u|Binksternet))”. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/31/opinion/sunday/nixons-vietnam-treachery.html and https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21768668 and https://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/12/george-will-confirms-nixons-vietnam-treason and https://prde.upress.virginia.edu/conversations/4006123 First is NY times, second is Christian Science Monitor Oldperson ( talk) 19:26, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Noun. A betrayal of trust or confidence, a breach of faith, treachery Noun. A violation of one’s allegiance to one’s government or sovereign Noun. The criminal offense of acting to overthrow one’s government, or of assisting others to do so Oldperson ( talk) 02:03, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
There was an excellent documentary on TV last night, entitled Tricky Dick, which mentioned in detail Nixons treasonous actions when he subverted Johnson's Paris peace initiative, which probably cost America tens of thousands of lives, and Viet Nam hundreds of thousands. The subject demands more in depth exposition and there are plenty of RS in support, including transcripts and audio of a tape recording between Everett Dirksen (Republican and senate majority leader) and LBJ. This is far from a settled issue Oldperson ( talk) 23:44, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
There's been a slow edit war on removing this statement in the lede: he resigned from office, the only American president to do so.
The
latest is by
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There was an RFC related to this ( #First sentence(s).).
In that RFC, I stated The goal of the first sentence of a WP article is to assure the reader that they have the right article, and not some other subject that has a similar name that they've got wrong somehow. A few famous people, like Benjamin Franklin, are notable in many different areas and it may be hard to reduce their notability down to a single phrase. But most famous people, despite the full list of all their varied activities, are primarily known for just one thing. Nixon falls into this group. The phrase for him is "the US President that resigned".
Other editors in the RFC specifically agreed with this statement.
To remove the fact he resigned from the lede would require a change in consensus, which is not in evidence.
If there's no reason given in opposition, I will restore the resignation statement to the lede.
-- A D Monroe III( talk) 21:52, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
In summary, this thread is about whether Nixon's resignation as president goes in the 1st sentence (about his term as president), or the 2nd sentence (about his term as vice president).
Despite consensus in this thread, one editor has edited against this, moving the resignation to the 2nd sentence, without presenting anything I can identify as a valid reason, and without further comment here. I'm at a loss to understand why a very experienced and valued editor would insist on doing this.
So, I'm asking for help. Instead of just edit warring, I'm seeking renewed definite statements on this issue to emphatically clarify consensus. I'm pinging the editors in this thread, Happyme22, Wehwalt, Thinker78, DuncanHill, as well as the additional editors in the RFC above that also established consensus for the 1st sentence wording, Nechemia Iron, BorisG, L3X1. Any other editors' are free to comment as well, of course.
I'm hoping doing this makes the consensus completely clear to all, without resorting to starting a full RFC, since that would just be repeating the last RFC, with no reason given to change it, then or since. Thus I believe a full formal RFC would just consume many more editors' time unnecessarily. This hopefully avoids that.
If this doesn't clarify consensus, I'll have to go ahead with a full formal RFC. Of course, if I'm completely wrong and consensus is for this edit, I'll accept that and just close this thread. -- A D Monroe III( talk) 14:33, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Of course, if I'm completely wrong and consensus is for this edit, I'll accept that and just close this thread.-- A D Monroe III( talk) 21:19, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
The goal of the first sentence of a WP article is to assure the reader that they have the right article, and not some other subject that has a similar name that they've got wrong somehow. A few famous people, like Benjamin Franklin, are notable in many different areas and it may be hard to reduce their notability down to a single phrase. But most famous people, despite the full list of all their varied activities, are primarily known for just one thing. Nixon falls into this group. The phrase for him is "the US President that resigned".Nixon's resignation makes him unique. He had many achievements, and I think would be considered a great president otherwise, but according to sources, Watergate overshadowed it all. As with any article, the most notable thing about this subject goes in the most notable position in the article -- the first sentence. If we don't do this, we not only miss-serve our readers, we tacitly imply that WP has some shame or fear about this fact. Nixon's resignation of the presidency belongs in the sentence that states the years of his presidency -- the first sentence. -- A D Monroe III( talk) 20:46, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Just like we begin FDR, an article I have nothing to do with:
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (
/ˈroʊzəvəlt/,
[1]
/-vɛlt/;
[2] January 30, 1882 – April 12, 1945), often referred to by initials FDR, was an American statesman and political leader who served as the 32nd
president of the United States from 1933 until his death in 1945. A member of the
Democratic party, he won a record four
presidential elections and became a central figure in world events during the first half of the 20th century.
His four terms make him unique bu it's in the second sentence. That's it.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 21:29, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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While I agree with Wehwalt that the number of bathrooms and rooms is irrelevant, the fact that he bought the entire 7th floor is highly relevant, which in fact is neither a condominium or a townhouse. The best word(s) would be an imperial apartment: a suite of rooms in a very large or grand house set aside for the private use of a monarch or noble. Oldperson ( talk) 00:54, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
The term "townhouse" in NYC real estate means exactly that. The original entry, the use of that term commits a factual error, hence the need for my edit. In a multi-unit building, generally the two legal terms for a single unit is either co-op or condominium. Nixon bought a condominium, a completely different type of property, legally, from a co-op and obviously different structurally from a townhouse. Further, One doesn't usually buy "the entire 7th floor;" the purchase was for a single unit configured to use the entire 7th floor. Seth1066 ( talk) 22:39, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Tricky business because real estate terms are not well standardized and in different countries mean different things. 2001:8003:A02F:F400:F886:12B9:345C:78F6 ( talk) 04:46, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
In the discussions about Paul Manafort and Julian Assange it has been said on various occasions that they can be pardoned only AFTER the courtcase, i.e. after they are convicted. For Julian Assange that would mean a court case in the US and quite a risk. For Manafort's pardon possibilities that means of course that Trump could only pardon him for a federal conviction and State governors would pardon him for State conviction - if they are so inclined.
Nixon was pardoned without being convicted. I think, these legal matters need to be revisited. 2001:8003:A02F:F400:F886:12B9:345C:78F6 ( talk) 04:55, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
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Change "Nixon was born tgo a poor family in Yorba Linda, California." to "Nixon was born to a poor family in Yorba Linda, California." because there is a typo. 91.168.45.81 ( talk) 12:32, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi there. I noticed there was no link to Gerald Ford, even though there is one for him under vice-president. I think it should be kept as the first time I was on this article, I didn't see there was already a link. I hope it's ok to keep the link to Gerald Ford because I think it is useful to have.
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There is no evidence the specific European ancestrors of Nixon are defining and there is no good reason to have these categories. This amount to over categorization by a triavial aspect. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:27, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
I feel like part of the lede is too long/descriptive. For the first paragraph, I would change it from...
Richard Milhous Nixon (January 9, 1913 – April 22, 1994) was the 37th president of the United States, serving from 1969 until 1974. As the nation's 36th vice president from 1953 to 1961, he came to national prominence as a representative and senator from California. After five years in the White House that saw the conclusion to the U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War, and the establishment of the Environmental Protection Agency, he became the only president to resign from the office.
to...
Richard Milhous Nixon (January 9, 1913 – April 22, 1994) was the 37th president of the United States, serving from 1969 until 1974. As the nation's 36th vice president from 1953 to 1961, he came to national prominence as a representative and senator from California. Nixon is the only president to resign from the office.
I would also change the second paragraph from...
Nixon was born into a poor family in a small town in Southern California. He graduated from Duke University School of Law in 1937 and returned to California to practice law. He and his wife Pat moved to Washington in 1942 to work for the federal government. He served on active duty in the Navy Reserve during World War II. He was elected to the House of Representatives in 1946. His pursuit of the Hiss Case established his reputation as a leading anti-Communist which elevated him to national prominence. in 1950, he was elected to the Senate. He was the running mate of Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Republican Party presidential nominee in the 1952 election, and he became the second-youngest vice president in history at age 40, serving for eight years in that capacity. He waged an unsuccessful presidential campaign in 1960, narrowly losing to John F. Kennedy, and he lost a race for governor of California to Pat Brown in 1962. In 1968, he ran for the presidency again and was elected, defeating Vice President Hubert Humphrey and Alabama Governor George Wallace in a close election.
to...
Nixon was born into a poor family in a small town in Southern California. He graduated from Duke University School of Law in 1937 and returned to California to practice law. He and his wife Pat moved to Washington in 1942 to work for the federal government. He served on active duty in the Navy Reserve during World War II. He was elected to the House of Representatives in 1946. His pursuit of the Hiss Case established his reputation as a leading anti-Communist which elevated him to national prominence. In 1950, he was elected to the Senate. He was the running mate of Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Republican Party's presidential nominee in the 1952 election, serving for eight years in that capacity. He waged an unsuccessful presidential campaign in 1960, narrowly losing to John F. Kennedy. Nixon then lost a race for governor of California to Pat Brown in 1962. In the 1968 election, he ran for the presidency again and was elected, defeating Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace in a close election.
Nixon becoming the second-youngest vice president ever seems trivial. I also think we should be consistent with the job titles. And, the last two paragraphs in the lede would remain the same. Would anyone object to these changes? -- Wow ( talk) 09:39, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
There's a section describing his illness in 1974 and his reluctance do take care of the matter. It has been cited that Nixon had nosocomephobia, a fear of hospitals. In the nosocomephobia article, Richard Nixon is mentioned in a citation. However, nosocomephobia is not directly mentioned in the article. Does nosocomephobia need to be directly mentioned to link both articles together? FunksBrother ( talk) 16:39, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Thematically makes no sense. He was a hawk, he drastically escalated the war. To only mention him ending the war might give a casual reader the impression he was anti-war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.126.71.11 ( talk) 07:17, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
@ Rowsdower45: Please see MOS:JOBTITLES instead of vaguely invoking "Wikipedia style guidelines". The MoS shows "Nixon was the 37th president of the United States." It can't get any clearer than that. Please follow the MoS and restore "office = 37th president of the United States" and "office1 = 36th vice president of the United States". Chris the speller yack 04:19, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Please see the above section of this talk page, and the relevant edits in which the above user takes the position that terms such as "president" and "vice president" should be in lower-case when used in Template:Infobox officeholder and certain inline contexts. I admit I can't find the exact words to explain why we do what we do, but I believe my interpretation of MOS:JOBTITLES is closer to being accurate than theirs, and that their interpretation would require a radical change in the way we stylize articles on elected officials. Rowsdower45 ( talk) 02:41, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
In the opening paragraph, the following sentence uses the past tense of rise (rose) when it should use the past perfect tense (risen).
Current quote: “A member of the Republican Party, Nixon previously served as the 36th vice president from 1953 to 1961, having rose to national prominence as a representative and senator from California.”
Suggested edit: “A member of the Republican Party, Nixon previously served as the 36th vice president from 1953 to 1961, having risen to national prominence as a representative and senator from California.” Logkirk ( talk) 08:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
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In line 2 of the first paragraph, "rose" should br corrected to "risen" 31.50.189.16 ( talk) 17:31, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Self explanatory it has a good wiki here and is a new term to many readers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.47.112.3 ( talk) 16:48, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Nixon won every state except for Massachusetts in 1972. Although he never won Massachusetts while running for president, he did win Massachusetts in his 1952 and 1956 vice presidential campaigns. Would this make him the only person to have ever won a general election in all 50 states? GamerKiller2347 ( talk) 00:41, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Racist rant Vedant Koladiya ( talk) 06:54, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Added to the legacy section. It was removed previously. Meethamonkey ( talk) 07:20, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
"@Heba Aisha:" I thought about that but there are many more things that are controversial about him eg. Views on black and Jewish people , so that would take time and to put this item alone in the section would be giving it extra weightage. But ultimately it should be there . Anyways thanks for the input. Meethamonkey ( talk) 11:55, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
During the 2016 Clinton/Trump campaign. The Sydney Morning Herald picked up on a tweet from a President Nixon role playing account and reported the tweet as if it had been made by the real RMN (who died in 1994). [1] PAustin4thApril1980 ( talk) 21:23, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Declassified documents from the Richard Nixon Presidential Library show that Nixon held deeply racist views for the Indian people and sexual hatred for Indian Women as revealed by author Gary J. Bass. [2]Describing Indian women as "undoubtedly" the most unattractive women in the world. Also describing Indian people as the most "sexless" and "nothing" people in the world . At one point comparing indian people with " African blacks " , stating that atleast they have an "animallike charm" but the Indians were "ack, pathetic" . [2]
If anybody could suggest what was wrong with this . Meethamonkey ( talk) 06:06, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
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Gary j. Bass is a prominent author when it comes to south Asia and the 1971 Bangladesh war . Also these are very recent revelations and are all over the Indian media ( also in the NYT). The source for this are audio recordings declassified by the Nixon Presidential library . One might think that Nixon possibly turned a blind eye to the Bangladeshi genocide because of his racist views for indians ( as suggested in the NYT article ) , which was one of the biggest genocide in history . So I would say tht this has a lot of relevance . Wouldn't you say ? Meethamonkey ( talk) 06:34, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Well as I mentioned it is only a recent revelation , so it will not be found in his biographies. Also it has been covered by NYT And Indian news networks . Meethamonkey ( talk) 07:35, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Well as these were his personal views, I think , it will not be relevant to his presidency . However if you think that this info is not relevant to this page then we can just leave it out for the time being . Meethamonkey ( talk) 08:05, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Nixon's Israel policy is important enough to mention because his action, and his personal involvement in them, was enough to get massive coverage in the papers at the time, favorable even in the midst of Watergate, which is covered in detail in his biographies.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 16:46, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
I also support MeethaMonkey's edits. Someone being racist towards a group is certainly not minor. Racial views have been listed on other BLPs too. 14:58, 5 September 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LéKashmiriSocialiste ( talk • contribs)
At the end of the section on Nixon's military service it states :
"On March 10, 1946, he was relieved of active duty.[41] He resigned his commission on New Year's Day 1946.[48] On June 1, 1953, he was promoted to commander.[41] He retired in the U.S. Naval Reserve on June 6, 1966."
This doesn't make sense to me. When you resign your commission you no longer have any military status. So, if he resigned his commission on January 1, 1946, what was he doing on active duty through March 10, 1946? Then he was promoted to commander in 1953.
I served as an officer in the USMC and left active duty on June 30, 1973. But I still retained my commission in the Inactive Reserve. Later, I returned to the Active Reserve for four years then became inactive once again. After four more years I finally resigned my commission and no longer had any military connection or title.
So it would make more sense to state Nixon 'left' active duty on March 10, 1946, but stayed in the Inactive Reserve. Still how could he leave active duty in March if he 'resigned' his commission over two months earlier?
Military personnel have a six year obligation. But if you serve two, three or four years, depending on your enlistment obligation, you still stay a member of the Inactive Reserve until six years is up, even if you never attend any military function. Then one day you get a letter saying your six years is up, and the military doesn't 'bother' you again.
The text sounds to me as if Nixon left active duty in March 1946, but stayed in the Reserves, probably Active Reserves for awhile, as he was promoted to commander in 1953. To retire in 1966 he had to be doing some periods of active reserve duty over those years. But quite frankly, the military services let politicians skip periods of duty as politicians obviously have political influence in military matters.
Someone should check this out and correct the text. It's just not going to be me. Thomas R. Fasulo ( talk) 01:09, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
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Remove the second instance of the word "in" in the following sentence, located in paragraph number 2:
FROM: He was the running mate of Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Republican Party's presidential nominee in the 1952 election, subsequently serving for eight years in as the vice president.
TO: He was the running mate of Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Republican Party's presidential nominee in the 1952 election, subsequently serving for eight years as the vice president. Gnelson2 ( talk) 03:45, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
another edit request. the name of the author of "the space shuttle decision" (a reference) is Heppenheimer not Hepplewhite 157.131.250.246 ( talk) 13:25, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
You say he’s the 36th Vice President but he is the 34th Jenmolidor ( talk) 05:03, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Richard Nixon earned his law degree from Duke in 1937. However, until the 1960s, universities were awarding LLB degree. Not the JD. Did Nixon earn a JD or LLB degree?-- RandomUserGuy1738 ( talk) 17:13, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Should this article and Richard Nixon 1968 presidential campaign not include SOME mention that notes indicate Nixon was involved in an effort to interfere in Vietnam peace talks Johnson was having ahead of the 1968 presidential election. It is HIGHLY notable and well-sourced, and already included in Paris Peace Accords. It's an incredibly noteworthy aspect of both Nixon's pre-presidency and campaign.
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Why do we need Category:American people of Irish descent? Can we remove it? Supaboy101 ( talk) 19:36, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Whats the "list of"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supaboy101 ( talk • contribs) 14:07, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Somebody please put the gold standard in here. It doesn't mention how in 1971, President Nixon took America off the gold standard.(unsigned)
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I reckon we should use the actual official photo on the infobox, instead of the one we’re using now. It looks better, it’s restored, and it’s actually official.
My proposed photo: Nixon Official Presidential Portrait, 07-08-1971restoredh.jpg
Current infobox photo: Richard Nixon presidential portrait.jpg TomVenam2021 ( talk) 20:56, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
In most articles, the person's occupation is included in the introduction sentence. Should it be included in this article? Thomascampbell123 ( talk) 19:27, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Then why do other articles say "American politician"? Thomascampbell123 ( talk) 04:57, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
But what is the reason behind that? Thomascampbell123 ( talk) 19:53, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
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emerged from Air Force One and greeted Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai. This should be written as.... we're greeted by Chinese.... It happened in China so the Chinese did the greeting 103.152.126.64 ( talk) 02:29, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
We should mention that Nixon " told H.R. Haldeman to 'monkey wrench' President Lyndon B. Johnson's efforts to begin peace negotiations over the Vietnam War." Currently, this article makes Nixon look like a hero who finale made the war end, which is a very twisted version of what actually happened. If we want to include part of Haldeman's notes from Oct. 22, 1968, they can be found here. — Kri ( talk) 23:23, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
According to https://www.californiabirthindex.org/fullname/nixon/richard , California's birth records have no one with the name Richard Nixon after 1905 until 1924. If he had another name at birth, then his birth name should be included in the article. If his birth was never properly recorded in California, that's notable considering how big an issue was made about Obama's birth (which had been properly recorded in Hawaii). If it was properly recorded under the name Richard Nixon but was excluded from https://www.californiabirthindex.org either because he's a public figure or by mistake, that's probably not notable. 47.139.42.245 ( talk) 04:54, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
What difference does it make now? When Obama was president i can see a likely reason for argument, but Nixon is dead, and Obama is no longer president. Why argue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7080:D43E:19F0:1985:23B5:5C8:8472 ( talk) 16:15, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
Query whether the display of ribbons, etc in the Military service section is the best placement, as it creates a substantial break for the reader. Consideration is suggested to placing these at the end of the article. For comparison, see Eisenhower article and Grant. Hoppyh ( talk) 14:46, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
I have omitted the following from the presidential campaign section to reduce overcrowding: America needs Nixon.png|thumb|upright|Text on automobile trash bag given away by the Nixon campaign in California, 1968 Hoppyh ( talk) 02:04, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
The following was omitted from the U.S. Senate section due to overcrowding: 1950 United States Senate election in California results map by county.svg Hoppyh ( talk) 02:37, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
See first paragraph of the section—“Nixon followed up by sending to China for clandestine meetings with Chinese officials.” Who did Nixon send? Hoppyh ( talk) 14:49, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
@ Wehwalt:My edit for adding a section for Indo-US relations was removed entirely, with inadequate explanation (explanation only referred to a single line out of the entire edit, for purpose of removing the entire section, which I find unsatisfactory). The edit summary for the edit reverting my edits pertains to Nixons racist views, not about whether or not India was relevant to Nixon.(unsigned by CapnJackSp)
I cannot edit it so i leave it here if some of you "verfied" users want to upload it just rember to credit me
i dont know how to license it but its copy from the orginal file wich was stated that it needed a "retouch" and here you go removed the scratches, some of you wiser guys can do the license thingy that the orginal had — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toyota Corolla E140 ( talk • contribs) 18:31, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
Adobe Photoshop CS6 2012
Removed lots of scratches, specs of dirt etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toyota Corolla E140 ( talk • contribs) 21:03, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
President Eisenhower was sworn in after my birth and served 8 years from 1953 until 1961. I just never knew who his vice president was. I knew Nixon ran for president in 1960, for I voted for him in a mock election in elementary school. His name was easier for a kid to remember than was "Kennedy."
Here is the piece that I copied from the article's edit page:
Richard Milhous Nixon (January 9, 1913 – April 22, 1994) was the 37th president of the United States, serving from 1969 to 1974. He was a member of the Republican Party who previously served as a representative and senator from California and was the 36th vice president from 1953 to 1961. His five years in the White House saw the end of U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War, ...
I was reading, "and was the 36th vice president from 1953 to 1961. His five years in the White House ..." and started counting the 8 years that I just read at the end of the last sentence. It might be wise to rephrase the start of the partial sentence that I quoted here to read, "His five years as President saw the end of U.S. involvement ..."
Doesn't the Vice President also serve in and around the White House? I know she is the President of the U.S. Senate, so the VP will spend much of her time in the Capitol as well as representing the nation overseas at the request of the President.
It just struck me though, that, while I read of Nixon being the President, the last thing in my reading was his eight years in the White House as Vice President.
Please review these thoughts and then revise the suggested wording, if you think it appropriate. Lytzf ( talk) 01:44, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
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In the Vietnam War section, in the line cited number 155, the word "overrun" should be changed to "overran" as everything else in the sentence is written in the past tense. BIp9 ( talk) 17:32, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
The reason I inserted the image of the "Man of Steel" button into the end of the "Personality and public image" section was that it ironically emphasizes what is usually assumed to be Nixon's foremost problem, the "toughness" self-image that he prized and that appears to have isolated him from actual friendships (and also enabled him to become president of the United States against the usual overwhelming odds, although his mentor Thomas E. Dewey gave Nixon the priceless boost of engineering the vice presidential spot beside Eisenhower in 1952). Quoting Richard Reeves from the section---Nixon's presidency was doomed by his personality, Reeves argues: "He assumed the worst in people and he brought out the worst in them ... He clung to the idea of being "tough". He thought that was what had brought him to the edge of greatness. But that was what betrayed him. He could not open himself to other men and he could not open himself to greatness." Earlier in the same section we have this: Nixon biographer Conrad Black described him as being "driven" though also "uneasy with himself in some ways". According to Black, Nixon "thought that he was doomed to be traduced, double-crossed, unjustly harassed, misunderstood, underappreciated, and subjected to the trials of Job, but that by the application of his mighty will, tenacity, and diligence, he would ultimately prevail." This is a basic thrust of the section (and, one might venture to say, Nixon's life) and is ironically crystallized by that slogan on that campaign button "Man of Steel," which is usually reserved for either Stalin or Superman in popular culture. I think placing it right there, as a conclusion to the section as well as the entire actual text of the article itself, is irresistible. I remember the 1960 campaign vividly but I'd forgotten about that button until I spotted it in Wikimedia, to my surprised delight. To place it in that spot emphasizes and serves as a literal illustration of what that section is about. Changing the subject to a different photograph, the picture of Nixon in his Air Force One cabin winging his way to China and ultimately changing the global economy completely (for better or for worse) is worthwhile because photographs of Nixon depicting a good view of his Air Force One cabin, a diverting symbol of presidential power itself, are quite rare and this one is particularly superb. Racing Forward (talk) 18:35, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
My was reverted (and fair enough, that's why we have talk pages) so I want bring up four issues with the existing text on here.
The Nixon Foundation's narrative of Humphries desire for a bombing halt as an "October surprise" is not NPOV. Humphries campaigned on such a halt. The peace talks were openly in progress. From the peace talk POV, the puncturing of the talks is what seems motivated by an "October surprise" perpetrated by the Nixon campaign. However, my edit kept in, even expanded on, the three conditions that Nixon perceived Johnson had promised the candidates.
What's relevant is that the order was given, which the Haldeman notes show.
As an aside, calling her "a fundraiser" is reductive; she was a lobbyist.
1. A pointless and vague sentence only serving to try to dilute the severity of the event
2. Chennault's interference is well documented in Diễm's messages to Thiệu.
3. The charge against Nixon is that he gave the order. It's not super relevant whether or not the order succeeded. If I order you to shoot a guy, the event that your gun jams up would not make me less guilty. (Whether or not "the gun jammed" in this instance is an argument for other articules more specific to the peace talks—there are much to indicate that the monkey wrench did have a very big impact.)
Nixon Foundation's "monkey wrench" essay is an extremely POV text. We don't need to perpetuate its perspective. Stick to the facts neutrally.
More vagueness ("questionable", "not clear").
Again not relevant to what Nixon did according to the Haldeman notes.
If I order you to shoot a guy, the event that someone else kills that guy before your bullet would not make me less guilty.
This monkey wrench is possibly the worst thing Nixon ever did. The fact that it's quickly glossed over on Wikipedia deep in a section labeled (and primarily about) "1968 presidential election" and then softened by "whether", "controversy", "contention", "questionable", "not clear" is not something I sign off on.
He tried to surreptitously stop this bombing halt. That is a pretty big deal for the history books in terms of human lives. The bombing halt was stopped. Many died. Nixon won the election. Whether or not the bombing halt would've been stopped by other people anyway without Nixon in some sort of It's A Wonderful Life side story is not nothing, but it does not absolve Nixon for his decision. The three conditions were not acheived.
I felt that my edit gave kind of a fair shake to the Nixon Foundation's perspective—keeping the three conditions and Nixon's perceived sense of betrayal from Johnson, while removing all the "maybe kinda sorta it wasn't that bad", while not putting in my own POV which is this was really freaking awful and should even be in the first paragraph. My own POV is that this is what people should think of when they think of Nixon. Gritting my teeth, I left it buried as a sub paragraph re the 1968 election campaign but I sure as heckfire don't sign off on a consensus re the existing language. Jikybebna ( talk) 09:42, 15 August 2022 (UTC) Jikybebna ( talk) 09:42, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
The four mitigating factors:
The very, very POV "monkey wrench" essay from the Nixon Foundation spends most of its time on the three latter points, but none of the three are relevant when what's disputed is whether Nixon treated human lives as a political campaign tool. We should stick to presenting facts neutrally. Jikybebna ( talk) 10:29, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
"Though he had to ride a school bus an hour each way during his freshman year, he received excellent grades." What does riding a bus an hour each way have to do with his grades? That's like saying, "Though he wore plaid shirts, he received excellent grades." One has nothing to do with the other. Lots of kids have long bus rides. So what? That should be removed. 76.202.192.102 ( talk) 02:47, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Richard_Nixon&action=history
I see that a user named User:Loafiewa keeps removing the Gerald Ford link in the infobox, and cites the reason as "MOS:OVERLINK". Why? It's very much not overlinking. Every other president has links to both their predecessor and successor. If you think there are too many Gerald Ford links on the page, then the others can be removed, but don't remove the link in the infobox. Aaronfranke ( talk) 04:58, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
"..in 1968, he made another run for the presidency and was elected, narrowly defeating Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace in a close contest" – Nixon didn't "narrowly defeat" Wallace. There surely must be a better way of phrasing that. Harfarhs ( talk) 15:43, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
In those mischievous White House tapes, civilian Nixon greeted then-President Johnson as "Dick Nixon" at least as late as 1967, if you look it up and listen on YouTube, so the use of "Dick Nixon" was certainly going full-blast then, although the "Tricky Dick" version might have taken the fun out of it for him. In informal conversations with peers, he was known for decades as identifying himself as "Dick Nixon." I chose the word "peers" with great care, however, since he liked "friends" such as Bebe Robozo to address him with his current title long before he was president, as "Senator Nixon" or "Vice President Nixon" or whatever he happened to be at any given time. He certainly considered Jack Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson to be peers although of course he always used "Mr. President" during the presidency of each and expected and received the same when he finally became president himself. The name "Dick Nixon" should certainly be cited in bold print because it was how he was widely thought of the entire time prior to his presidency, hence the darker but even more pervasive "Tricky Dick" (which should probably also receive mention in boldface because it was so relentlessly prevalent throughout his career). I lived through all of this myself, getting most of this information in real time. Listen to him on tape with Kennedy or Johnson and you'll see that he calls himself "Dick Nixon." What I don't remember until after he resigned is his dropping his middle initial, which was always in evidence on posters and in newspaper articles about him. I knew that he dropped it but I don't think it was before his political career had ended although it's certainly possible that it was. It was a sign of the times; now middle initials are generally out of favor but were once practically a necessity for practicing politicians, especially most presidents. While we're talking about alternate nicknames, unfortunately "RMN" doesn't have the same ring as FDR or JFK or LBJ although Nixon's last name was so short (five letters) that it practically made it a moot point. Nixon tried "RN" in imitation of his idol Theodore Roosevelt's "TR" but it never really caught on. I think we should definitely restore "Dick Nixon" in boldface; after all, Kennedy's Wikipedia article offers his nickname "Jack" in boldface and it would be a shame to shortchange Nixon's nickname. And "Dick Nixon" was far better known to the general public than "Jack Kennedy" at the time: the press was usually so reverent toward Kennedy during that era that they couldn't bear to bastardize the apparently shimmering elegance of "John F. Kennedy." Hey, if you happen to also be interested in Kennedy, check out The Dark Side of Camelot by Seymour Hersh, the investigative reporter who broke both the My Lai and Abu Ghraib stories, assuming you haven't read it already. Racing Forward (talk) 02:36, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
A recent edit added some info on Nixon's supposed sabotage of the Paris Peace talks in '68. I made a few slight alterations based on a few points: #1. Neither source states (as near as I can tell) that this was indeed Nixon's "secret" plan to end the war. So that part needed to come out. Secondly, one of the sources itself makes the point that Thieu's resistance to any agreement cannot entirely be put at the feet of the Nixon campaign (if true). Indeed, Thieu had to be browbeat into signing the agreement (by Nixon) 4 years later. And finally, to say (definitively) this was a violation of the Logan Act is something even the source doesn't say. The one source that mentions the Logan Act says it is a "seeming violation" of the act. Rja13ww33 ( talk) 03:00, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Anybody think his pardon of Hoffa is worth mentioning? Rja13ww33 ( talk) 01:45, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
I think this article's structure has regressed; compare this October 4 version to the current one, and you'll see that there are now far more top-level headings, an increase from 16 to 21. Subjectively, it leads the article to feel less organized and more "daunting", since it gives equal prominence to the longest section (on his presidency), and to very short and minor sections about his political rise. Each phase of Nixon's life isn't equally noteworthy, so I favour grouping those sections into a "Rising politician" section. That's how it was organized when the article passed FAC, too. It seems like this was changed in this October 2022 edit by SecretName101, which has not so far been discussed on this talk page. — DFlhb ( talk) 17:27, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Timothy_Leary#The_most_dangerous_man_in_America. Thank you. Viriditas ( talk) 00:49, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
About visit in Soviet Union: Nixon returned in the city where he stayed for two months as a child in 12 years - Degtyarsk. 2A00:1FA2:200:5935:0:2B:9CFD:E01 ( talk) 15:59, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
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User:Drdpw and I disagree as to whether Category:American poker players and Category:Amateur poker players are appropriate. I say they are. Nixon's poker winnings helped finance his first political campaign (as noted in a The Independent article), and this Card Player article states that Nixon himself said that the skills he learned from poker proved invaluable in his political career. Clarityfiend ( talk) 03:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
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Nixon ended American involvement in Vietnam combat in 1973 and the military draft in the same year.
Without contextualizing the now-accepted mainstream view that he prolonged the war by many years and many deaths, and that the all-volunteer army paved the way for ongoing US military adventures in the Mideast. Any ideas about framing this more neutrally or at least helping readers avoid undue conclusions about these actions? SPECIFICO talk 16:27, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Hey everyone! I was looking into presidents' official places of residence, specifically their official home state / state of residence. To do so, one of the sources I used was the NARA's collection of Death File records from the Social Security Administration. On said records, the zip code of someone's residence at the time of their death is given. For some reason, contrary to all other records for presidents among the Death Files, Nixon's residence (and his wife's residence) is different than their commonly acknowleged residence: the zipcode given in the source links to Bronxville, New York rather than New Jersey. Does anyone have any evidence or opinions that may help with this matter? Thank you!
The source is: https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=3003&mtch=71&cat=all&tf=F&sc=29343,29348,29350,29353,29354,29355,29362,29370,29371,29372&q=richard+nixon&bc=sl,fd&rpp=10&pg=2&rid=5274443&rlst=5273987,5274030,5274034,5274266,5274307,5274411,5274443,5274910,5275189,5275198 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ozzy4Prezz ( talk • contribs) 22:14, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
This article is missing information about Nixon and his alleged complicity in the Bangladesh genocide during the Bangladesh Liberation War. This topic was most prominently the subject of the 2013 book The Blood Telegram: Nixon, Kissinger, and a Forgotten Genocide by Gary J. Bass. This isn't just any old book; it not only has its own Wikipedia article, but also was one of the two finalists for the 2014 Pulitzer Prize for General Nonfiction and won the 2014 Cundill Prize, probably the most prestigious award for a general history book (the Pulitzer Prize for History is limited to US history), among other awards.
It also received significant coverage in multiple news publications, the most notable of which are:
This information is already featured prominently in Henry Kissinger and Bangladesh genocide, although those articles are admittedly not featured articles. Regardless, I feel that this article ignores major recent scholarship that was published after this article's promotion to featured status in 2011. If this article has room to mention Nixon's elimination of the Cabinet-level United States Post Office Department, his purchase of a condominium in New York City in 1979, and his meeting with newspaper publishers in 1986, it should have room for this consequential policy of Nixon's presidency.
I saw in the archives that Bangladesh was previously brought up, most recently here, but I don't think they made a strong enough case for its inclusion. Malerisch ( talk) 12:55, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
I'll be the first to admit that I'm not an expert on this subject. But from what I understand, although the broad strokes of Nixon's policy were previously known, The Blood Telegram fleshes out the details. Quoting from the preface:
To this day, four decades after the massacres, the dead hand of Nixonian cover-up still prevents Americans from knowing the full record. The White House staff routinely sanitized their records of conversations, sometimes at Kissinger’s specific urging. Even now, mildewed and bogus claims of national security remain in place to bleep out particularly embarrassing portions of the White House tapes. Kissinger struck a deal with the Library of Congress that, until five years after his death, blocks researchers from seeing his papers there unless they have his written permission. Even if you could get in, according to the Library of Congress, many of Kissinger’s most important papers are still hidden from daylight by a thicket of high-level classifications, security clearances, and need-to-know permissions. Kissinger did not reply to two polite requests for an interview, and then, four months later, refused outright. But against Nixon and Kissinger’s own misrepresentations and immortal stonewalling, there is a different story to be found in thousands of pages of recently declassified U.S. papers, in dusty Indian archives, and on unheard hours of the White House tapes—offering a more accurate, documented account of Nixon and Kissinger’s secret role in backing the perpetrators of one of the worst crimes of the twentieth century.
The preface also states:
Knowing full well that they were acting illegally, [Nixon and Kissinger] provided U.S. weapons to Pakistan, which was under a U.S. arms embargo—an unknown scandal that is of a piece with the overall pattern of lawlessness that culminated with Watergate. As recently declassified documents and transcripts prove, Nixon and Kissinger approved a covert supply of sophisticated U.S. fighter airplanes via Jordan and Iran—despite explicit and emphatic warnings from both the State Department and the Defense Department that such arms transfers to Pakistan were illegal under U.S. law.
The rest of the book is filled with reporting that uses the sources mentioned above, as well as "interviews with White House staffers and Indian military leaders".
Bass actually fully declassified more tapes after the publication of The Blood Telegram in 2013, so he published an op-ed in the NYT in 2020 with further revelations about Nixon's "racism and misogyny" toward Indians.
Farrell's biography includes The Blood Telegram in its bibliography and appears to summarize its events. Malerisch ( talk) 03:44, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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