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According to the article his mother's maiden name is "Baassuik", which does not look Norwegian at all. It is possible that the "u" is supposed to be a "v". Baassvik, or better yet Båssvik, is an actual Norwegian name ("aa" is often substituted for "å"). Sadly I don't have any sources, apart from my own skills of deduction. Anonymous 12:23, 25 Octrober 2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.215.33.20 ( talk)
I've removed all detail about his parents' names, as per WP:BLP: two of the supporting links are dead, leaving only the Irish Times article which doesn't name them. The link to the pdf document mentions people with the same surname as Richard, but since it doesn't say what relations they are, this would constitute original research ~dom Kaos~ ( talk) 15:45, 8 July 2017 (UTC) pretty beautiful name — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:194:C200:1120:A891:7A30:DBEA:582E ( talk) 03:29, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Here's a (bad) picture, licensed under Creative Commons, of him. http://flickr.com/photos/eyedropper/321708524/sizes/s/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wmli ( talk • contribs) 15:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I am genuinely not sure that photo should be used. It's clearly a fan-stalker shot taken on the train in London. Is this 'wikipedia' quality? Boils ( talk) 22:12, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm, I'm not convinced either. A fan shot at a public appearance is the sort of thing we are after, not a stalker shot when he's on his way to work. FreeMorpheme ( talk) 19:23, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I wonder if anything in this interview could be useful for the article:
Ka Faraq Gatri ( talk) 20:19, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
The two pronunciation guides give different pronunciations for his name. I don't know which (if either) are correct. -- deflective ( talk) 08:57, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
The first paragraph says Whipps Cross but the infobox says Hammersmith. TonySever ( talk) 14:59, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Im a horrible Wiki editor, but today he's holding a Reddit AMA (ask me anything) will post relative info here that he answers. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.160.118.126 ( talk) 21:34, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
He has just won a BAFTA for Best Male Performance in a Comedy Programme for the IT Crowd. Where should this information go? Should there be a new section for the award or perhaps just under the IT Crowd? Igniparous ( talk) 17:23, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
According to his latest tweets, his birthday listed on Wikipedia is incorrect.
https://twitter.com/richardayoade/status/477013679251394560
https://twitter.com/richardayoade/status/477013962383699968 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel samuels ( talk • contribs) 09:15, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
"Ayoade is also the brother-in-law of the singer and actress Billie Piper, who married Laurence Fox in 2007, but this statement is a misunderstanding of the relations by marriage concept. Ayoade's wife is the sister-in-law of Piper and Ayoade is therefore merely the husband of Piper's sister-in-law."
Ummm... okay? This sentence would get the writer laughed out of an editor's office. It has been changed. 73.173.114.38 ( talk) 23:59, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
For some reason, some editors keep stating Richard is of English ethnicity, which flies in the face of the fact that his Ethnicity is mixed race of Nigerian and Norwegian. The English are an ethnicity, legally and culturally so, English ethnicity is not gained by being born in England, just as japanese ethnicity is not from being born in Japan. Please stop this nonsense of marginalising the English people's ethnicity. If for some reason you feel his Nigerian/Norwegian ethnicity is somehow not good enough, this is your own problem and racism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margolis-Marmite ( talk • contribs) 07:32, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
"dont [ sic] assume you speak for the English people" - indeed. You could perhaps consider that yourself? I don't see anywhere in the above where I make any such claim. My comments are directed purely at the article content and phraseology therein. Any other inference is entirely of your own invention. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 12:58, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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You dont appear to have anything useful to say on the topic, you appear to want to insult instead of discuss the actual topic. > look now signed.. feel better ? Margolis-Marmite ( talk) 14:12, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Stick to the topic or cease spamming us Margolis-Marmite ( talk) 14:35, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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To be fair to Margolis-Marmite, I'll answer his question as to whether "English" is a nationality or an ethnicity. It's essentially both, by common and official usage. We refer commonly to England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland as the Home Nations. The 2011 census posed questions about nationality, giving English, Welsh, Scottish, etc. as options and in various combinations including with British... It's interesting to note that 32 million people stated that they were "English" only compared with 4.8 million who stated "English and British" and 10 million who stated only "British" (data from England and Wales only). Wales has a National Assembly and the Scottish government routinely refer to Scotland as a nation. I've seen the argument that the constituent countries of the UK are not nations used as a semantic device, particularly in relation to unionist politics, but it really holds no water. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 16:01, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Utterly disgusting. You write off an entire ethnic people and i'm guessing you would not call him a Jew if he lived in Israel, no he would be something else.. but you call him English who are just as valid an ethnicity. Disgraceful. The excuses around English being a nationality complete nonsense and transparently so. Revert the changes, do the right thing, he is clearly not English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margolis-Marmite ( talk • contribs) 17:38, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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No, the catflap. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margolis-Marmite ( talk • contribs) 17:48, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
The catflap has been pushing his weight around, threatening me on my talk page with a ban, simply because I made an edit he disagrees with.. Is this how admins are supposed to behave? Threaten a ban if someone makes an edit they dont agree with? Im suspecting he holds some sort of prejudice towards the English people. Margolis-Marmite ( talk) 17:56, 3 November 2017(UTC)
Are you threatening me again catflap? Margolis-Marmite ( talk) 18:06, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
You've just threatened me again there.. How the heck do people like you get administrative privilidges when you target people for bans because they have an opinion you dont agree with? WTF. Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make personal attacks on other people. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 18:08, 3 November 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margolis-Marmite ( talk • contribs)
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The 'Early life and education' section states 'he says that his parents would not approve of studies considered to be of the "Regency era"', which makes it sound like Ayoade's parents didn't want him to study the Regency era. The actual quote from the Guardian article makes it clearer that they considered the whole concept of a non-vocational degree as something archaic, or straight out of the Regency era. As the quote is easy to misunderstand and hard to explain, and the rest of the sentence already explains that 'a non-vocational degree seemed such an outlandish indulgence' to them, I'm going going to delete the part about the Regency era. Sadiemonster ( talk) 08:35, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
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According to the article his mother's maiden name is "Baassuik", which does not look Norwegian at all. It is possible that the "u" is supposed to be a "v". Baassvik, or better yet Båssvik, is an actual Norwegian name ("aa" is often substituted for "å"). Sadly I don't have any sources, apart from my own skills of deduction. Anonymous 12:23, 25 Octrober 2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.215.33.20 ( talk)
I've removed all detail about his parents' names, as per WP:BLP: two of the supporting links are dead, leaving only the Irish Times article which doesn't name them. The link to the pdf document mentions people with the same surname as Richard, but since it doesn't say what relations they are, this would constitute original research ~dom Kaos~ ( talk) 15:45, 8 July 2017 (UTC) pretty beautiful name — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:194:C200:1120:A891:7A30:DBEA:582E ( talk) 03:29, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Here's a (bad) picture, licensed under Creative Commons, of him. http://flickr.com/photos/eyedropper/321708524/sizes/s/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wmli ( talk • contribs) 15:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I am genuinely not sure that photo should be used. It's clearly a fan-stalker shot taken on the train in London. Is this 'wikipedia' quality? Boils ( talk) 22:12, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm, I'm not convinced either. A fan shot at a public appearance is the sort of thing we are after, not a stalker shot when he's on his way to work. FreeMorpheme ( talk) 19:23, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I wonder if anything in this interview could be useful for the article:
Ka Faraq Gatri ( talk) 20:19, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
The two pronunciation guides give different pronunciations for his name. I don't know which (if either) are correct. -- deflective ( talk) 08:57, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
The first paragraph says Whipps Cross but the infobox says Hammersmith. TonySever ( talk) 14:59, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Im a horrible Wiki editor, but today he's holding a Reddit AMA (ask me anything) will post relative info here that he answers. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.160.118.126 ( talk) 21:34, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
He has just won a BAFTA for Best Male Performance in a Comedy Programme for the IT Crowd. Where should this information go? Should there be a new section for the award or perhaps just under the IT Crowd? Igniparous ( talk) 17:23, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
According to his latest tweets, his birthday listed on Wikipedia is incorrect.
https://twitter.com/richardayoade/status/477013679251394560
https://twitter.com/richardayoade/status/477013962383699968 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel samuels ( talk • contribs) 09:15, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
"Ayoade is also the brother-in-law of the singer and actress Billie Piper, who married Laurence Fox in 2007, but this statement is a misunderstanding of the relations by marriage concept. Ayoade's wife is the sister-in-law of Piper and Ayoade is therefore merely the husband of Piper's sister-in-law."
Ummm... okay? This sentence would get the writer laughed out of an editor's office. It has been changed. 73.173.114.38 ( talk) 23:59, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
For some reason, some editors keep stating Richard is of English ethnicity, which flies in the face of the fact that his Ethnicity is mixed race of Nigerian and Norwegian. The English are an ethnicity, legally and culturally so, English ethnicity is not gained by being born in England, just as japanese ethnicity is not from being born in Japan. Please stop this nonsense of marginalising the English people's ethnicity. If for some reason you feel his Nigerian/Norwegian ethnicity is somehow not good enough, this is your own problem and racism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margolis-Marmite ( talk • contribs) 07:32, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
"dont [ sic] assume you speak for the English people" - indeed. You could perhaps consider that yourself? I don't see anywhere in the above where I make any such claim. My comments are directed purely at the article content and phraseology therein. Any other inference is entirely of your own invention. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 12:58, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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You dont appear to have anything useful to say on the topic, you appear to want to insult instead of discuss the actual topic. > look now signed.. feel better ? Margolis-Marmite ( talk) 14:12, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Stick to the topic or cease spamming us Margolis-Marmite ( talk) 14:35, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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To be fair to Margolis-Marmite, I'll answer his question as to whether "English" is a nationality or an ethnicity. It's essentially both, by common and official usage. We refer commonly to England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland as the Home Nations. The 2011 census posed questions about nationality, giving English, Welsh, Scottish, etc. as options and in various combinations including with British... It's interesting to note that 32 million people stated that they were "English" only compared with 4.8 million who stated "English and British" and 10 million who stated only "British" (data from England and Wales only). Wales has a National Assembly and the Scottish government routinely refer to Scotland as a nation. I've seen the argument that the constituent countries of the UK are not nations used as a semantic device, particularly in relation to unionist politics, but it really holds no water. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 16:01, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Utterly disgusting. You write off an entire ethnic people and i'm guessing you would not call him a Jew if he lived in Israel, no he would be something else.. but you call him English who are just as valid an ethnicity. Disgraceful. The excuses around English being a nationality complete nonsense and transparently so. Revert the changes, do the right thing, he is clearly not English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margolis-Marmite ( talk • contribs) 17:38, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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No, the catflap. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margolis-Marmite ( talk • contribs) 17:48, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
The catflap has been pushing his weight around, threatening me on my talk page with a ban, simply because I made an edit he disagrees with.. Is this how admins are supposed to behave? Threaten a ban if someone makes an edit they dont agree with? Im suspecting he holds some sort of prejudice towards the English people. Margolis-Marmite ( talk) 17:56, 3 November 2017(UTC)
Are you threatening me again catflap? Margolis-Marmite ( talk) 18:06, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
You've just threatened me again there.. How the heck do people like you get administrative privilidges when you target people for bans because they have an opinion you dont agree with? WTF. Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make personal attacks on other people. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 18:08, 3 November 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margolis-Marmite ( talk • contribs)
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The 'Early life and education' section states 'he says that his parents would not approve of studies considered to be of the "Regency era"', which makes it sound like Ayoade's parents didn't want him to study the Regency era. The actual quote from the Guardian article makes it clearer that they considered the whole concept of a non-vocational degree as something archaic, or straight out of the Regency era. As the quote is easy to misunderstand and hard to explain, and the rest of the sentence already explains that 'a non-vocational degree seemed such an outlandish indulgence' to them, I'm going going to delete the part about the Regency era. Sadiemonster ( talk) 08:35, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Hello,
This article has been “issued a yellow card” (apologies for not knowing the official term) for an overly-detailed lead section. Editors are supposed to have a discussion before correcting it, hence the new topic.
Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section is a helpful resource. This is my first time taking on a Wikipedia edit of this magnitude, though my career requires me to write hundreds of pages of expository prose a year.
I’m not sure if it’s been worked on already, but it still strikes me as too dense so I’m guessing it hasn’t. Is anyone else interested in collaborating? If so, great! If not, I’m not afraid to go it alone but I’ll wait a while before getting started & I’ll post proposed changes here. LemonPokeCake ( talk) 00:38, 9 December 2022 (UTC)