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article treats psychopathy as a disorder, which it is not

hello, this page keeps using the terms "disorder" to refer to psychopathy; this gives the impression it is a psychiatric or medical condition, which it is not. it is listed under the "personality disorders" box on the right side of the page at the top but it is not a personality disorder. I think this article is misleading and tries to give authority where none is warranted. it's closer to pseudoscience than actual science. psychopathy obfuscates the presence of actual psychiatric disorders and this disinformation does real-world harm to people with true psychiatric conditions. Damien.Otis.x ( talk) 23:44, 23 January 2022 (UTC) reply

The page does make it clear that psychopathy is not an actual diagnosis found in the DSM or ICD. I did, however, go through the page and removed all instances where the word "disorder" was used to refer to psychopathy (and one instance where it referred to sociopathy).-- Megaman en m ( talk) 00:22, 24 January 2022 (UTC) reply
Probably was a good idea. Sociopathy was indeed put into the DSM-1, and academics/doctors at the time often referred to it as 'psychopathy in action', or the medical term for psychopathy. This lasted until the 1960s, but other academics, or sometimes even the same academics would refer to psychopathy as if it were also separate from sociopathy. At most psychopathy is a defunct, messy medical label, that many are trying to reintroduce into the DSM, and was almost reintroduced under the redefined definition of triarchic boldness found in the lede of this very article 2600:4040:403C:F300:1CA4:5A85:3A5B:606B ( talk) 13:51, 5 November 2022 (UTC) reply
This article is still structured as if psychopathy were a true disorder, with diagnosis and management sections. A true effort to remove psychopathy as a pathology would involve re-writing section headers and text, eg from "diagnosis of psychopathy" -> "alleged psychopathy symptom checklist" etc. Even though forensic psychology takes the concept seriously, even they seem to have issue getting the 'condition' officially recognized. 2600:4040:403C:F300:1CA4:5A85:3A5B:606B ( talk) 13:59, 5 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Differential Diagnosis in the Info Box

Hello, I was wondering about the infobox. Since Psychopathy isn't a diagnosis, how can there be a differential diagnosis? Is this intentional or is this a rudiment of "folk-psychology" without academic support? VenusFeuerFalle ( talk) 02:24, 20 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Wiki Education assignment: Language in Advertising

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 17 January 2023 and 11 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Valentina.whitaker ( article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Valentina.whitaker ( talk) 16:39, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply

Protection needed?

Hello all,

Does anyone else support the idea of restricting who can edit this article? With the amount of traffic this receives, I think it is a good idea personally. JamesJohnsonJo ( talk) 19:29, 17 August 2023 (UTC) reply

No. There has not been significant editing conflict, nor vandalism. Wikipedia does not protect articles just for being high-traffic. 157.181.130.150 ( talk) 13:32, 19 September 2023 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

article treats psychopathy as a disorder, which it is not

hello, this page keeps using the terms "disorder" to refer to psychopathy; this gives the impression it is a psychiatric or medical condition, which it is not. it is listed under the "personality disorders" box on the right side of the page at the top but it is not a personality disorder. I think this article is misleading and tries to give authority where none is warranted. it's closer to pseudoscience than actual science. psychopathy obfuscates the presence of actual psychiatric disorders and this disinformation does real-world harm to people with true psychiatric conditions. Damien.Otis.x ( talk) 23:44, 23 January 2022 (UTC) reply

The page does make it clear that psychopathy is not an actual diagnosis found in the DSM or ICD. I did, however, go through the page and removed all instances where the word "disorder" was used to refer to psychopathy (and one instance where it referred to sociopathy).-- Megaman en m ( talk) 00:22, 24 January 2022 (UTC) reply
Probably was a good idea. Sociopathy was indeed put into the DSM-1, and academics/doctors at the time often referred to it as 'psychopathy in action', or the medical term for psychopathy. This lasted until the 1960s, but other academics, or sometimes even the same academics would refer to psychopathy as if it were also separate from sociopathy. At most psychopathy is a defunct, messy medical label, that many are trying to reintroduce into the DSM, and was almost reintroduced under the redefined definition of triarchic boldness found in the lede of this very article 2600:4040:403C:F300:1CA4:5A85:3A5B:606B ( talk) 13:51, 5 November 2022 (UTC) reply
This article is still structured as if psychopathy were a true disorder, with diagnosis and management sections. A true effort to remove psychopathy as a pathology would involve re-writing section headers and text, eg from "diagnosis of psychopathy" -> "alleged psychopathy symptom checklist" etc. Even though forensic psychology takes the concept seriously, even they seem to have issue getting the 'condition' officially recognized. 2600:4040:403C:F300:1CA4:5A85:3A5B:606B ( talk) 13:59, 5 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Differential Diagnosis in the Info Box

Hello, I was wondering about the infobox. Since Psychopathy isn't a diagnosis, how can there be a differential diagnosis? Is this intentional or is this a rudiment of "folk-psychology" without academic support? VenusFeuerFalle ( talk) 02:24, 20 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Wiki Education assignment: Language in Advertising

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 17 January 2023 and 11 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Valentina.whitaker ( article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Valentina.whitaker ( talk) 16:39, 3 May 2023 (UTC) reply

Protection needed?

Hello all,

Does anyone else support the idea of restricting who can edit this article? With the amount of traffic this receives, I think it is a good idea personally. JamesJohnsonJo ( talk) 19:29, 17 August 2023 (UTC) reply

No. There has not been significant editing conflict, nor vandalism. Wikipedia does not protect articles just for being high-traffic. 157.181.130.150 ( talk) 13:32, 19 September 2023 (UTC) reply

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